Are TUP and PCP really using Multies?
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by Adastros
Right, So a senior New Era member (a member of the 'New Era Council' No less) has been ranting and raving at the 'cheating' of TUP and PCP over them having the temerity to have high voter turnouts.
With Sven making accusations of multi accounting by these parties, I feel this is the ideal time to look at things I call 'facts'.
That's a table. Very similar to the one I used a couple of weeks back and was heavily criticised for, perhaps deservedly so, but it fufills a different purpose today.
Sven sai😛
"Yes, but TUP got 84.13% (eighty four point one three percent!)"
... Isn't this just because have a very large core, active membership? If we take players under lvl 25 as ones that haven't fully committed/ are new to the game (and would be less likely to vote) then TUP only lose 9% of their membership, leaving them with just over 190 people.
And here's the thing... 153 members of TUP are over level 25, and could be considered active members of the game. So TUP's 157 votes doesn't look that unrealistic now does it?
Right, and then we have Sven's lunatic claims against the PCP#
Let's look at the table I published a few weeks back:
Sven is getting angry because of PCP's 19 avatarless people who voted, but yet I heard no protestations at the Freemason's massive 35 a month ago, a staggering 38% of the party's membership, a good deal more than the 19% in the current PCP count. That's without even looking at parties like the RDP.
Double Standards much?
So, In Conclusion I am not accusing any party of having a box full of multies in their partyI am merely refuting the lunatic, deranged and hypocritical ravings of one person.
Adastros Out.
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We PM the party several times every month to remind them and emphasise the importance of voting. The secret to our congress success is nothing more than a bit of hard work on the part of party leadership.
don't most of the parties do that.... TUP is not the only one to do 'hard work'
Not in my experience no- most ~PPs like to give of an atmosphere of work and do little. I know, I've done iit 😛
I message all of my party too, they're probably getting sick of my face by now 😛
Also, what about the all the other active citizens of the eUK who aren't members of the top 5 parties but also vote?
They always get missed. It's quite possible for a party like TUP to get over 100% of their party membership if other citizens voted for them. Not me of course. I'm no TUP-ite *spits*
Only joking you lovely TUPsters, you! ;P
Errrmmm...Wook4CP 🙂
ESO has, on several occasions, achieved 100%+ voter turnout for that reason exactly. Not even counting smaller parties, there is a whole population of eUKers who hold no political party at all. Undoubtedly at least some portion of those players vote too.
At the time I remember ESOs performance being attributed to 'a vast Legion conspiracy' in which Legion 'elites' were encouraging members to vote ESO.
Because, ya know, that happens all the time.
As a good example WRP didn't coordinate to get congressmen this month. Given our close ties over the last few months the PCP likely got a fair few WRP votes....no mention of this in Svens article...
Always good to uncover double standards with facts.
Voted!
I don't understand this whole those under level 25 and without an avatar are 'suspect' multis. It is possible for an account of any level with any type of avatar from ANY party to be a multi account.
There's also the tactic of having the multis as unaffiliated, or in a different party to the one they end up voting for to help 'hide' them better.
My point being, there's plenty of ways to take advantage of the game and at best all we have is our suspicions. For anyone to put it in a table and present it as 'fact' is just cherry picking random statisics and coincidences for their own benefit.
Just to make clear, I'm not saying they are 'suspect' accounts. I did that in a previous article and was wrong to do so. I only use this table to counter Sven's arguements by showing that a) these accounts exsist in all parties and b) PCP don't even have the highest rate of them.
that should make the critics shut up!
everyone has a go at TUP.
PCP, those communists...
yeah, why?
I certainly hope the PCP are multi-ing, the economic module is battered and multis are a good way to give the capitalist pigs two fingers.
Perfect person to make the rebuttal Adastros.
It seems ridiculous that NE were so critical of your interpretation of the number of avatarless players and then all of a sudden are criticising the number of avatarless players in other parties.
Not New Era, just Sven. He is wrong.
Ok, that's fair enough
Also 0 PCP votes removed by admin for multies, compared to how many NE votes over the last few months?
This data shows a mix of the quality of players recruited and percentage retained, not multies.
Multies have avatars, join random parties and gain levels to blend in with normal players.
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i do not understand the reasoning that "faceless" players (ie those without avatars) have multi accounts i was playing for months before getting a "face"
So, why no comment from Sven yet?