Another point of view on South Africa
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by montaigne
Dear Serbian readers,
I have some good and bad news for you.
The bad news is that while I was seeking for adventure, I really found it in South Africa. Yes, I am one of those "bunch of Hungarian fakes", who is participating on the TO. And to be honest, I know at least 2 Serbian friends, working hard together with us. I can only tell good things about Dusan Nastasijevic, he is one of the candidates for the congress. Akica-v is also Serbian, also candidate. And it is IOnestar, a guy from Vojvodina, call him Hungarian or Serbian, makes no difference. Yes, and the reast are really Hungarians.
The good news, is that dispite what has happened yesterday, we will not give up our dreams.
Since the Hungarian government did not have the money, the patience to do such a great project - or maybe did not have the self-confidence or was busy saving Belgium, Czech Republic, Austria, etc, one person took the initiative to do it: it was Stadler City.
Since the TO was carried over, both Stadler City and the people in the congress were loyal to Hungary (and Serbia), and loyal to Phoenix. And we are not just talking empty words. During Stadler's rule all of the the EDEN MPP-s were all churned out. Can anyone question this as a sign of loyalty?
In order to understand the rest of the story not only from Brasilian, but also South African-Hungarian side, please imagine a parallel scenario:
1. Imagine, that Bosnia (Denmark, Malaysia...you name it) is a country under Serbian TO.
2. Admit, that even a private TO is still a Serbian TO, as long as it acts according to the Serbian interests.
3. Imagine, that a neighbouring ally (Slovenia, Germany, Indonesia, you name it) attacks without any prior notice your colony.
4. Imagine, that Serbian citizens (having friends in those colonies) will think like:
Our ally (Slovenia, Germany, whoever) is at war with a Serbian colony. So let's all fight against our own colony, let's please our ally. Let's refuse their request for MPP!
Would you?
Honestly?
No, you wounld not.
Please min😛
South Africa has a very high strategical importance. It is about Titanium. It is a place, which should serve common benefits. South Africa has 3 high titanium regions. It is more than it really needs. In some better places Presidents of the 2 countries would sit down and agree on a rental deal.
RENT is not equal to TAKE it for free.
And now another good news: This evening the South African delegation will continue its efforts to solve this issue in a peaceful, diplomatic way. I kindly ask a small moral support for this. Your Vote is more than enough.
Thank you
montaigne
PS. Fighting against Brasil, against Serbia, and other Phoenix countris, but shoulder to shoulder with Spain and USA did not make me a big pleasure...at all.
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Najveca akcija u eSrbiji ikada!!!!! Mesec dana - Svaki dan!!!!!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/tako-se-to-radi-brzo-ali-1-1498564/1/20 izvini zbog spam-a, dobio si vote :} sub odavno.....
I kindly give you small moral support.
It is a priviledge to be in position to help our most trustend ally in need.
3 high titanium regions,it's enough for all of us 😃
You used to write good, interesting articles...
long live South Africa, long live Phoenix!
3 regions. Let's share among us, to the biggest benefit for all of us!
I hope our leaders are negotiating, and they'll find a good way to resolve the problem.
We are allies!
The lack of good diplomacy in Brazil (eRep and RL) is sad.
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Too bad .
eSA would have been a nice experiment of more people from different communities rulling the country together .
No Phoenix or EDEN links(or links to both ) ..just a rich country exporting everywhere 🙂
I kindly give you small moral support. x2
I was fighting against SA yesterday. But I was targeting only EDEN soldiers who were fighting on SA side. Canadians, Croats, USA and BiH soldiers
Are you going to demand gold from Brazil and Argentina in order to let them get the diamond regions? 😮
I thought you knew better than that...
if SA is a colony you cant rent regions 🙂
Brazil got the chance to take some titan and they used it 🙂
Too bad that PHX is fighting against each other in this kind a moment when Russia is almost dead and the rest of PHX without titanium. Montaigne I sure hope you can settle this on easy manner, Serbia is renting BiH high grain region for a pretty small fee, so don't ask too much money from Brasil because it's not ok to take advantage over friends. I sure hope I will still see Hungarians and Brazilians fighting again BUT ON THE SAME SIDE!!!!
all efforts tosolve this situation is more than welcome... not to blame one side or other now 🙂
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we are with you montaigne. this will be resolved!
Nice reading http://www.erepublik.com/en/newspaper/diario-oficial-do-brasil-187055/1
Montaigne,what is wrong with you,you would ,rent, region that is not original yours,to the allied country.Just give Brasil that one titanium region.Renting it is a shamefoul move.You should be ashamed.
Brazil asked for the PTOers for a deal, we offered help to be sure you would be always under control of SA, for you. And we said we would for sure accept/help/participate (and even help costing) the swaps of Hungary/Serbia to africa/australia. WUT u did? Ignored us, trolled us and even edited logs of my president (vigon). Arent we trying diplomacy? 😒 Also your example is wrong, lets put this way: In a "perfect world" Brazil dont have iron, Hungary and Serbia control chinese iron, but both lost it. Br manage to PTO (LOLZ) China, while we are doing it, Hung offer us help, Serbia offer us Help. You need that Iron Region, not only for you, but for the alliance (because Russia was taken - and OFC ALL OF US WILL FIGHT HARD TO FREE IT ASAP) and only Indonesia cannot supply PHX stocks while we dont manage to free Russia (it is not a simple thing, but is something we must do ASAP). So you decide to attack Africa, you clearly say that to the "brazilians", but they say no you cant do that because that now is their lands (you controled china for mroe then 1 year). They offer you a deal then, you accept it, after you accept they demands more then the first offer (they say they want gold for tanks, weapons etc...)
@1. Imagine, that Bosnia (Denmark, Malaysia...you name it) is a country under Serbian TO.
2. Admit, that even a private TO is still a Serbian TO, as long as it acts according to the Serbian interests.
3. Imagine, that a neighbouring ally (Slovenia, Germany, Indonesia, you name it) attacks without any prior notice your colony.
4. Imagine, that Serbian citizens (having friends in those colonies) will think like:
AHahahhahahahahahahhahahhahaha good old times
eBrasil and eArgentina always look for one region with (diamond/titanium) in eSA (Battles and more battles winning and loosing whitout help... Now after PTO they need to pay for rent???
Too bad that PHX is fighting against each other in this kind a moment when Russia is almost dead and the rest of PHX without titanium. Montaigne I sure hope you can settle this on easy manner, Serbia is renting BiH high grain region for a pretty small fee, so don't ask too much money from Brasil because it's not ok to take advantage over friends. I sure hope I will still see Hungarians and Brazilians fighting again BUT ON THE SAME SIDE!!!!
x2
i am from serbia,and i'ts natural to fight for brazil...never ever with Usa and Croatia...if that mean that i must kill some hungarian,so let it be...
Did anyone notice the state Russia is in at the moment? We don't really have the luxury of fighting amongst ourselves.
Too bad that PHX is fighting against each other in this kind a moment when Russia is almost dead and the rest of PHX without titanium. Montaigne I sure hope you can settle this on easy manner, Serbia is renting BiH high grain region for a pretty small fee, so don't ask too much money from Brasil because it's not ok to take advantage over friends. I sure hope I will still see Hungarians and Brazilians fighting again BUT ON THE SAME SIDE!!!! x3
Montaigne I respect you very much but we need those high titanium regions, there's 3 of them, just give one away, are we fighting on the same side? This is interest of PHX not just Brazil...
btw, Brazil didnt start putting buildings or making any tax change, isnt this a good sign? a sign of good faith?
So, why dont you guys ready this nice LOG I got here, with PTOers asking eBrasil to attack?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-bs-and-they-say-they-didn-t-know-por-eng--1498798/1/20
i just hope no one from phx belive in this qq
1. Brazil failed to conquer SA in V1, this time they only succeded because they LIED to Stadler, with the active MPPs Brazil had no chance.
2. Brazil failed at its repeated SA TO attempts.
3. North of Brazil was saved by Hungary and Serbia in V1.
4. Brazil did not contribute with anything to Russia's defence
NOW they want the rewards from someone elses success for free, now that's what I call SHAMELESS.
[The "Croats" fighting on SA's side were mostly Hungarian and Serbian PTOers]
Hail Hungary
Hail Serbia
Hail our truth allies!
And just an interesting things Brazil do 8X Damage against hungarian colony than THE MSOT IMPORTANT BATTLE (WSR) agaist EDEN . YOu called yourself true allies.. YOU olny want go on your own way.
Get out of South Africa you Phoenix dogs.
@Gidzi, лоше ти је поређење. Погледај у наше двориште. Ми изнајмљујемо Бугарима територију која оригинално није наша. Тако да није у реду приговарати другоме због тога, док ти/ми у исто време радимо исту ствар. П.С. Иначе сам и ја против изнајмљивања регије Бразилу, ја бих им је дао џабе...
what do you want with it guys? Take eBrazil of the Phoenix? Do you want an invitiation from EDEN? We are always fighting for NC with the help only from eSerbia against SA, EUA e EDEN.... Now do you want rent because of a PTO? It's look like the unique ally of eBrazil is eSerbia... Let's the politician deal with it. Flame the public opinion is worse...
I call Hun and Bra to find peace solutions on the base of mutual benefits and for the sake of alliance.
Guys please settle the matter asap...plz let not fight among ourelves...if u didnt notice Spain is round the corner..
Karlista [The "Croats" fighting on SA's side were mostly Hungarian and Serbian PTOers] - No, they were not. There are Serbs and Huns in SA, but when we say that we were fighting against Croats, Canadians, USA, Spain, and BiH soldiers we really mean that. Or you think that TemujinBC, Durutti, Sacirbeg, AdmirM, Mirza985 and others, are not on EDEN side?
Seeing the wealth of SA i think it is fair to share. PHX their interest go before each countries interest because we are all PHX.
_____________BRAZIL__________________________________________________
battlefield____fighters____fights____damage__________________________
WSR____171____947____35231___________________________________________
ESR____197____784____28624___________________________________________
FER____208___1016____40199___________________________________________
SGP____117____345_____9918___________________________________________
_SA____390___1919____73200___________________________________________
That's enough!
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Montaigne I respect you very much but we need those high titanium regions, there's 3 of them, just give one away, are we fighting on the same side? This is interest of PHX not just Brazil... x2.....Mother Russia awaits our deep concern, HAIL PHX
really? asking a rent to our brasilian friends? u don t even conquered the country... pheonix can use one more hight titanium region, and brasil is the one who has the economy to explore it.
Maybe u should give another region to Argentina too... everyone knows that south africa is the highest priority for brasil so renting a region to an ally when pheonix need that high region dont sounds a good idea to me. i respect the hungarians a lot but right know i thinks brasilians got the point.
And now for russia🙂
Montaigne, we need those high titanium regions, there's 3 of them, just give one away.
Are we or are we NOT fighting on the same side? This is in interest of PHX not just Brazil or Hungary or Serbia...
Alliance owes to Brasil one SA High region for free. After that we can split the rest ...
It made sense for Brazil to snatch the region, what would have happened if you had lost control of SA? What will happen when you lose control of SA (unless you manage a Peru)?
They also can exploit it much better than SA can, and by doing so help Phoenix. They should give you a one-off payment or a negligible rent to keep it.
Monty any other time ti would be a big vote ,now I I can't do that.
You're a great writer one of the eRepubliks legends but this kind of propaganda and support asking should come from Hungarian PTO leader not you.
I know that more the 50% of Serbias reading population would give you a vote and support you no matter what.
You are using your good name to help and justify the ones that should be able to help and justify them selfs.
Lets hear that words coming from them and then count the votes.