An open letter to eCroatia from The eSwedish Government
Ministry of Foreign Affairs
This is a direct response to eCroatia, due to the rumors circulating about our country and yesterday's official article released by your Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
To our eCroatian friends and long-time allies,
I write this on behalf of my government and the people of eSweden. Your country and ours have been steady allies for a long, long time and we have never done anything towards you that would suggest that we want this friendship to end.
You, and citizens of many other countries, have been fed lies about eSweden. Both through media and high-ranked leaders. I am adressing this specifically to the entire eCroatian community, since it saddens me to see that even your MoFA now labels eSweden as a member of NWO.
We're not a member of NWO. No more than you are.
It's true that a few (and I mean few) individuals from other nations have approached us about joining NWO during the last few weeks. I know, for a fact, that the same has happened in eCroatia but for a much longer period of time. Our policy has been crystal clear on this matter right from the start: we're a founding member of EDEN and we do not wish to abandon any of our friends.
I have been the president of this country since 5th november last year. Trust me when I say that I ought to know exactly where eSweden stands and what our foreign policy looks like.
Yesterday, I was asked to sign a MPP by your MoFA, Atea. This is how she phrased her request:
"Croatia would like to sign a MPP with Sweden. We lost core region and need your MPP for defense and to continue freeing eBiH regions with our MPPs.
I would appritiate a prompt answer."
I'm not sure what you would read into those words, but baring in mind the attitude towards eSweden in yesterdays MoFA article, I'll let you in on how I interpret that message. First of all: this was not a question, it's a demand. More on the likes of a direct ultimatum (more on that later) and one might even call it a threat.
I can not remember that I've been asked for a MPP renewal since our MPP expired, a month or so after we decided to crush the PTO in Denmark (which was caused by exile-Croatian multis). Naturally, I therefor assumed that your government no longer wanted us to have a MPP. I want to point out that there were no hard feelings from our side.
We're not a big country and we're not as rich as larger nations, so naturally, we've been trying to keep our supply of MPPs to a minimum to save up som Gold when the world economy started to collapse all around us. We're also aware that there are more powerful nations that might be able to give you better support on the battlefield, such as Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, USA ... and the list goes on. We wouldn't likely get your support in our battles, since you have Servia to think about. Like I said before, there were no hard feelings from our side and I figured that future governments might be more willing to sign the MPP with us again.
Regarding the accusations that we're only allied with NWO countries, I beg to differ.
It was only recently that our MPP with Bulgaria expired. We're in the process of renewing it. USA expired recently and although I'd like for it to be renewed, I had to nag about it the last three months so this time I figured that if they don't approach us about it, we'll just let it be since they clearly aren't interested anyway. Last week, I've also sent messages to eGreece, asking whether they're interested in signing a MPP with us, and I'm still waiting for a reply from their president. It is quite likely that we will sign your MPP as well.
Spain and Poland are not just NWO to us - they're also our friends, just like you guys. It would've been much different if we had signed MPP with ex-PHOENIX countries such as Serbia and Hungary. We have not signed MPP with any country outside of the ususal EDEN line-up. With impeachments going on and other uncertainties within the various communities, I don't wish to alienate countries that have stood by us in the past based on which agenda their current governments have set up.
We've seen alliances come and go throughout the years but we've never turned our backs on those we consider our friends.
I therefor ask of you not to put blind faith into the words of others, who accuse Sweden of being NWO, based on nothing but ignorance and/or bad intel.
We did not create this turmoil and diplomatic chaos. We did not choose for Poland and Romania to start fighting like small children, for Panam or NWO to be founded or for us to be falsely accused of plotting against EDEN. We did not choose for any of this to happen - in fact, I think it sucks that it did.
The people of eSweden felt forgotten and dishonored by previous EDEN HQs. This caused a rift between us and EDEN.
For example, we waited patiently for more than 4 months to get a clear sign from EDEN to let us start our war against eGermany towards the end of last year. For half a year straight, eSweden (as founder) had no member in HQ. We're one of few countries who have always payed the fees to the EDEN treasury. We let other countries occupy some our core regions without reimbursement for more than 3 months, in order to help out in a large-scale EDEN operation. We kept postponing our own wars and fought almost exclusively in Romania and Croatia instead.
All we ask is that you try to look at our current situation from our perspective.
In eCroatia, you have an endless supply of wars to fight in. Almost every week you may participate in direct attacks launched by your own military against other nations. Your wars against Serbia and Slovenia are never far away and I can see why you would enjoy to continue fighting them. Whenever the tide turns in favor of your enemy, you get full support from EDEN. Long before NWO was even known to the public, your country had been asked to become a member due to its strength and strategical location. Other nations treats you with respect and eCroatia has the power and authority to set the agenda in EDEN, should your leaders choose to do so.
In eSweden, life is quite different.
First of all, this country lack the strength to attack powerful nations such as Serbia or Slovenia (which your MoFA sees as, quote, "training exercise"). As eSwedish citizen, you won't get the same support when your regions are attacked and you would actually be happy if the military can attack another, equally small country, once every second month or so. While NWO asked your eCroatian friends to join, your nation wouldn't even be considered as a potential, though inferior, second-class member for months to come. In foreign media, American, Finnish and other places as well, you would suddenly start reading anti-Sweden propaganda based on rumors of whom your president socialises with in unofficial IRC channels. If your leaders wanted to fight a war, they would have to do it without EDEN support since that support would most likely be requested for more important battles such as, for example, Northern or Southern Great Plains.
During the past, when Sweden had a much larger population, we assisted you unconditionally in your wars.
We helped you reclaim your lands, rebuild your nation and stood up for you whenever you needed our help. If you called, we would answer. Ask your seasoned players if you're a new player - I promise you that they remember Sweden back then as a good and reliable ally. Gradually, we became weaker... and as our military capacity started to fade, so did the memories of what we had helped others achieve in the past.
As much as I dislike the politics involved in the MPP demanded by your MoFA...
"eSweden should be the fourth joined member of NWO. We can see by their MPPs and orders of the Ministry of Defence that although they are member of EDEN they are prone to the NWO. Today we have officially requested the signing of MPP with us to defend our region and assist in the liberation of eBosnia and Herzegovina. If eSweden does not agree to the signing of the MPP they will be in direct violation of EDENs membership contract." - (Atea, Croatian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, posted yesterday)
... I choose to see it as a perfect opportunity for me, my government and our congress to reach out a hand towards the eCroatian people once again and tell you what your MoFA seem to have failed to mention (or forgotten).
And as for our "orders of the Ministry of Defence" they've been set to fight against Lithuania, considering the fact that we have a training war with them. This does not involve anyone outside of Sweden or Lithuania - especially not NWO.
We're also free to decide who we sign MPP with. I know the EDEN treaty inside and out - but that doesn't matter. It's not the lack of truth in that quote above that matters - it's the way it plays right in the hands of those anti-Sweden individuals who try their best to make us look bad and not trustworthy.
Let it be known that when this MPP passes, it wasn't because we eSweden felt threatened to sign it by an ultimatum from your MoFA and other high-ranked leaders within EDEN...
... we voted the way we did because unlike some, we honor our friends and regardless what happens in the future, Swedes never abandon a friend in need.
Truthfully yours,
Valnad
President of eSweden
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This was truly a great article that needed to be written. Great work Valnad.
Subject: About Croatian MPP
Hi there!
I tried to catch you on IRC in EDEN rooms, but I don't see you online. I even left queries to shoot, your VP about our MPP without answer. Croatia would like to sign a MPP with Sweden. We lost core region and need your MPP for defense and to continue freeing eBiH regions with our MPPs.
I would appritiate a prompt answer.
Thanks in advance!
In the name of eCroatian government,
Atea, eCroatian MoFA
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Vote, we demand respect.
Sweden is awesome.
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Re: About Croatian MPP
Hi Atea, unfortunately I am sick and that's why you have been unable to reach me on IRC. shoot told me very briefly friday morning that he would probably be away the whole weekend.
We're discussing MPPs within the congress right now. I will lift your request with the military leaders and congress and if it's okay with you, I'll get back to you with an answer tomorrow.
My spontaneous reply would be yes, though. So I'll do what I can to present the MPP proposition as a good decision.
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Given the reply I quoted, which you can attest to being 100% accurate, was there really a need for you to paint us out to be NWO-members in an official article? No, there was not. And your message only shows that I quoted you right... the other stuff I left out was not essential for the context.
Valnad, please don't do me a Cerber, this time with fake eRep PMs? I don't have policy about not sharing those, so I may as well publish them on eCroatian forums.
I am glad to see that you are feeling better and that your flu is over. I am glad as well that you shared with us how you feel about EDEN, NWO and eCroatia and happy to see we are going to have a MPP between our countries again.
Valnad, please don't do me a Cerber, this time with fake eRep PMs? I don't have policy about not sharing those, so I may as well publish them on eCroatian forums.
I am glad to see that you are feeling better and that your flu is over. I am glad as well that you shared with us how you feel about EDEN, NWO and eCroatia and happy to see we are going to have a MPP between our countries again. x2
Long Live Valnad, President of Homonavia!
First croatian hospital way back in v1 was a gift from Sweden IIRC, and back then hospitals were quite rare and a treasure to have.
I remember these stupid little things which make it hard to start disliking old friends.
And when we are quoting, this is what I wrote about eSweden in my article;
"eŠvedska bi trebala biti četvrta priključena članica NWO-a. Možemo vidjeti po njihovim MPPovima i naredbama Ministarstva obrane da su iako članica EDEN-a skloni NWO-u. Danas smo i službeno zatražili potpisivanje MPP-a s nama u svrhu obrane naših regija, te pomoći pri oslobađanju eBiH. Ako eŠvedska ne pristane na potpisivanje tog MPP-a kršiti ce izravno EDENov ugovor o članstvu."
I see indeed that english translation is somewhat different from original text, but yeah, our gvt stands by it.
Once again, I am glad that we got the big pink elephant out of the room and I promise an article in eSweden to kiss and make up if my words were too harsh. Now let's sign that MPP.
Yeah Ledhino, I remember the crash of Atlantis as well, when we stood by eSweden and kicked some eGerman ****.
I remember StOOr tanking for us as first BH in eCroatia, I remember admiring Misho and Kape, I remember how we made fun of Borkan telling him Betamjau is a guy who he flirted with xD I remember 2k gold roteda as CP borrowed us and refused to take an interests when we payed back, I remember aTO actions in eSweden, I remember alot... Maybe all of us need a reminder sometimes.
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Then we have nothing to disagree about, Atea. I can respond and react with anger when I feel that my country and fellow countrymen (both Swedes, Danes and every other member of the eSwedish community) gets mistreated by others. I can see why you would believe that you did, but by reading this article, I hope that you no longer feel uncertainty regarding whether or not eSweden liked eCroatia.
Unfortunately, we're in no state to give you the same support as we once did, but that doesn't mean we've forgotten about you. By reading the recent comments from you and Ledinho, it would seem that Croatia did not forget about us either.
I agree that reminders of the past are sometimes necessary in order to not lose your foothold in the present. There need not be any sour milk between our countries (or governments for that matter) and I will try to be just as clear as I was in this article in the future as well, so to not give any leeway for rumors to spread and root.
I remember when Croatia asked for Swedish assistance and I replie😛
- I'm sorry we have a situation on our own to attend.
I got a very harsh reply telling me that Croatia was about to get erased.
I then informed that eSweden was already wiped off the map. Still eSwedish mobile forces fought for Croatia - even when we had no land of our own - to defend Croatia. Croatia lost and was also wiped.
Unfortunately(?) we tend to forget about our big losses. Even if those might have been the times when we fought hardest.
It saddens me that Poland and Romania walked in two different directions, it has been difficult days for us eSwedes. I guess it all started when USA decided to leave EDEN and declare Brazil a Brozil.
That was the start between US-hostility against Spain and was the perfect moment for skilled Hungarian diplomats to pull ePoland out of EDEN.
I didn't want EDEN to break up. I worked hard to keep Poland and Spain still in it. I failed and like I said, you tend to forget the sacrifices made in great losses.
Signed
Misho
Ledinho, very cool you remember that! I think it was Roby Petric which was President of Croatia back then. He actually tried to come around irl quarrels with Serbia and invite them to Atlantis!
Sweden is awesome. x2
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@Valna😛 I think I've told you several times to finally pick your side. It cannot be both in EDEN and in NWO, no matter how much you wish. If you do not fully commit to either alliance, and insist on playing a selfish game where loyalties mean nothing, then do not be surprised if you are classified as an untrustworthy partner by all sides. You may try to seem like a misunderstood martyr but in truth you can only blame yourself for the damage Sweden's reputation has taken.
To me it seems you've misinterpret Atea's message. It contains no threats, no ultimatums, no demands. She requested an MPP from us in very similar tone, and it was only because Croatia is in need of assistance right now and she had to write a message that relayed the seriousness of the situation.
To respond to her in this way and make a public spectacle of it is of very bad taste. If you're attempting to cause conflict between EDEN member states and Sweden, congratulations, you've again succeeded in it. Why you wish to punish the Swedes by destroying their image in this way, I guess I'll never know.
And no, I have no wish to see Sweden leave EDEN and join NWO, as I am sure you keep on chanting to your Congress. My quarrel is with you and you alone(and rightfully so after all the slanderous words you've been saying about me, Finland and other EDEN countries), not the Swedish people, who have been loyal allies and friends in the past.
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ErwinS, the message itself did not contain a threat but I felt that the text I quoted from the english translation of her article posted yesterday (using the same translation as was linked in that same article) did. Atea has shown in her comments that I may have misjudged her intentions though, so as far as I'm concerned, that's sorted out. If not, well, then I guess I'll have to apologize to her later.
You obviously have a problem with Sweden and you know what ErwinS? I'm okay with that. Just don't go around spreading rumors and forcing your opinion upon others. That is why I've said the things I've said. Had you not started spreading your propaganda, it would never have happened. At first, I felt you where a straight up guy. I admit that I made the mistake of bundling you with other Fins (who, as I discovered, aren't nearly as grumpy). If you keep at it like this, chances are that sooner or later, others might catch up on your real agenda.
I don't feel that I've destroyed Swedens image by this article and if you feel that way, you might want to read it again or ask someone else to read it for you. This is a clear way of stating how I, as a representative of my country, look upon our relation with eCroatia.
I can sum it up, since you seem to have misunderstood the meaning of it:
We like them. Period.
Erwin, it saddens me that you and Valnad has come on collision course. I think both of you are great players and great persons, a bit to stubborn and unforgiving perhaps.. 😉
Its easy to say that eSweden must condemn Poland on day one when they left EDEN and declare them as an enemy. But what if we like them? What if we feel that Poland has been nothing but kind to us - just like Croatia has? Do we have to declare one of them as an enemy directly even before formal allies have been formed?
If you ask me the alliances and the MPP-structure is pretty chaotic at the moment. Look at Russia and Indonesia for example - they are allied with EDEN, Panam, NWO and Dio knows who.
USA has invited Turkey for a common thanksgiving dinner with Greece and still Turkey is supposed to be a member of Panam.
Canada - where the heck do they belong - in EDEN or in Panam or in both?
Germany, The Netherland och UK are all co operating with Serbia - are they NWO countries then? Less than a week ago Poland paid 200 gold to USA for rent.
Pretty chaotic if you ask me, don't you think?
We are eSweden, is it okay if we are a bit cool in all this heat without being declared as the next pray of some Finnish Cult? 😉
like Ervin said you wont be in position to be allied with EDEN and NWO for longer period, sooner or later there will be a conflict involving your MPP , it will probably be well played move from NWO forcing you to get EDEN mpp.s deleted , same as poland waited for the right moment to get croatian mpp canceled, same as they did with romania... poland and spain are not EDEN friends anymore , sitting on two chairs will get you nowhere, well it could lead you to NWO since you are member of EDEN and you have MPP.s with our biggest enemies...
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like Ervin said you wont be in position to be allied with EDEN and NWO for longer period, sooner or later there will be a conflict involving your MPP , it will probably be well played move from NWO forcing you to get EDEN mpp.s deleted , same as poland waited for the right moment to get croatian mpp canceled, same as they did with romania... poland and spain are not EDEN friends anymore , sitting on two chairs will get you nowhere, well it could lead you to NWO since you are member of EDEN and you have MPP.s with our biggest enemies
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im little confused i respect all our ally,
especial old ones and in dark times like this
i like my country, and im sure that Atea wasn't threatening.
so if it matters at least little one my opinion is positive about Swedan
and i hope when i have time i will move to one of our northern allies to show appreciation for past and future help.
i may be week but, have big heart xD
Very interesting article, support to Sweden
Erwin, you talk of Sweden playing a selfish game, yet you wrote an article yesterday about your very own country finding itself in a silimar situation.
In the end of said article you stated that you will not aid your fellow EDEN ally Latvia against the non-member Estonia. I fully understand your decision but you have to understand that we, citizens of Sweden, do not wish to turn against our long time friends of Poland and Spain just like you didn't want to fight your newly found friend, Estonia.
In your article you stated that it was because of honor - when it's Sweden, it's selfishness.
Yes, there are differences but please, stop with your hypocrisy.
And pardon my English.
Hail Sweden!
Bästa landet efter Kroatien
Very interesting article, support to Sweden x2
The problem with the current leadership of Eden is, that it concentrates on getting revenge on Poland and Spain, not on the future of the alliance.
Well, this situation isn't easy for any of us smaller countries. I also feel that we've been given some leeway from HQ (cudos to them) and I think that there are more than us who sees the dilemma here.
On one hand, we have what's left of an alliance that we once founded and that is now likely to become Panam. On the other hand, we have two strong nations who have been good allies to us for several years... and none of them seem entirely convinced where they're going or how long they'll be staying there.
I realize that some people might frown upon me and my administration for not deciding already, but how often does this kind of choice present itself? You need to get it right. We need to know who's supportive and who will stand by our side, as brothers and sisters, once the smoke has cleared.
Poland has given us a lot of support throughout my whole "career" and that speaks in their favor. They have some interesting politics going on right now though, which has alienated them from most of their other long-time friends. I'm almost starting to feel like the parent of an abuser - you just don't leave your kid hanging, you give it your best and then some just to get through.
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At the end of reading I already known the problem before I find out in interesting comments.
FIRST OF ALL SWEDEN HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION IN CROATIA,AND THIS CANT BE INPARED BY NOONE BUT SWEDEN ITSELF.
I want to assure you Sweedens that in MPP request was not bad intentions of any kind,and it shoud been written in english as well,that is only mistake here,and it is human,but one that should been learned from.
About bad reputation,al the articles and rumors regarding Sweden transition to NWO there is simple solution.
Articles and statemants in official news with clear messages adressing this matter.PERIOD.
MPPs with other confronting nations are NOT POSSIBLE and you as a founder of EDEN and so well aquainted with rules written by youre self shoud known better.
LET ME ASK YOU THIS.WHAT DOES THIS ACTIONS TELL US AND OTHER PPLS IN SWEDEN WHEN YOU BRAKE RULES WRITTEN BY YOURE SELF.WHY DID YOU WROTE THEM THEN.THEY SHOULD BEEN WRITTEN WITH THE PURPOSE NOT TO CREATE THIS SITUATIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
About that message about MPP PROPOSAL where it stands "WE WOULD LIKE TO SING MPP WITH SWEDEN" you see threat you my friend are not fit to be on that chair.
All I see,wit youre own words,like I PRESUMED,I TOUGHT,I TOUGHT SO....hat neither side didnt talk about these issues,and as a diplomats you are in direct violation of youre job and responsibility about making decisions about something on youre own.
AGAIN I LIKE SWEDEN AND PLEASE WRITTE MORE IN OURE COUNTRY AND THERE WILL BE NO PROBLEMS OF THIS KIND ANY MORE.
❤ SWEDEN
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/me ❤ Sweden
@Finansinspektionen: Then you should read it again and see the part that states that we can't morally take action against Estonia due to the fact that we gained their regions through mutual cooperation. As it says, we could very well aid Latvia AFTER we've returned the regions back to Estonian control. Not sooner than that. Call it a code of chivalry, if you wish. Or hypocrisy, if it makes you sleep easier at night.
@Valna😛 If you wish me to post all the logs I have that show your true opinion to the masses, give me a nudge. I would gladly show everyone how diplomatic you really are under the hood, if it didn't mean I had to make a public spectacle of it.
And if you think I have poisoned everyone's opinion against Sweden, you're dead wrong. You still are the only person to blame for that. The media in all countries, not just in EDEN member states, does not link you with EDEN anymore. Why do you think that is? Because of me, perhaps?
Carry your own responsibility.
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damn erebuglik it should be
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Voted. Let's all just sing "We shall overcome" : )
And by the way, you can clearly see here what Sweden thinks about a MPP with eCroatia:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Sweden/law/67994
Haha I did not shout I highlight the impotrant parts.
I belive you could send represnetative of Sweden then,and if so you shouldnt write nothing before talking with him about the mitting,right?
Maby the treaty is old,but blind spots are not the issue,BiH for wich are we asking for you to help us is EDEN member ocupied by NWO(serbia)and with this act they are in direct and open ear with EDEN,not to mention attack on Croatia,Hungary on Romania,Slovenia(pro NWO) with Italy recently,my friend war is upon us wheather you like it or not.
And for that matter why should EDEN country beg for MPP from EDEN country,I bet that Croatia would giv you 100g or at least loan you,EDEN should stick together in harsh conditions,no?
I can assure you that I'm not impulsive,Im Well known in Croatia sa war journalist,economic and guy from you can ask for advice on any things,and Im willing to give all this gladly.
And I still like Sweden (:
love is in the air!!
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Croatia/law/67995
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Hail Sweden!!
Hail Croatia!!
love, peace and understanding... 🙂
HAPPY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR, HAPPY EASTER... And all that
Interesting read. Almost makes me want to get into politics again.
We don't need any imperialist alliances.
Hail the union of workers' parties of the world!
We love you for your consitency, Radsoc. If I ever get reborn as a machine, I hope I'll end up just like you ❤