Air Force Leaders Take Off [UPDATE]
Avruch
Last night a number of of the higher Air Force officers quit the branch and the Armed Forces and formed a new MU. I'm not a member of the Defense Department, but I've been an active observer and there are a few things I want to make sure people know about what happened and what will happen. For the tl;dr version, start at the bottom.
First things first: No one will argue that people in this game (and it is a game, despite the grandiose statements that players sometimes make) are perfectly entitled to play in whatever unit and with whatever group of people they like.
Second, there's been some simmering discontent from the Air Force CO (Roper 70) for a couple of months. When the Armed Forces was restructured and Rogue Squadron and Flight Training were created, there were some big changes involved for the Air Force and its officers. Some people left the AF to join Rogue Squadron, and officers in the Air Force previously involved in Boot Camp felt left out as a new branch was established under Synesi as CO. As an observer, I don't think the restructuring was handled elegantly and communication could clearly have been better. So I can understand why Air Force leaders, confronting reduced responsibilities and a changed role in the Armed Forces, might have been upset.
The other issue, the proximate cause perhaps of the departure of these officers, was Slyk Willy. You might take a look at my last article for a little more information on that. Slyk is an outspoken guy, with contrary opinions and no filter. I understand over time he's done a lot of work for the Air Force, but in the first Israel Stevens term he was pretty close to being discharged over the disruption he was causing to Air Force and Rogue Squadron. In the brief Civil Anarchy term, Slyk was ultimately discharged for encouraging Air Force members and others to fight against government orders. Despite this discharge, Slyk was permitted to rejoin the Air Force about a week later. I believe this was a mistake on the part of the Secretary of Defense, Gnilraps. Gnilraps is a good guy and people make mistakes. Gnil hoped Slyk had "learned his lesson" and agreed with Roper 70's request to give him another chance. Within a couple of days, Slyk had made a few mildly disparaging comments about government policy that he posted in the Air Force IRC channel, the Air Force shout feed and his own shout feed.
Gnilraps believed this violated the conditions of Slyk's return (read Gnilraps article here), and Slyk was discharged again. Now, I don't think Slyk belongs in an Armed Forces branch. But I have a hard time getting behind discharging someone for expressing their opinions, even when I disagree with them. In this case, Slyk was pissed off about the policy of returning regions to reduce our bonuses. It's well known throughout the eUS community that there is a lot of disagreement on this policy, and many people both for and against it. So understandably, some Air Force officers were upset when it seemed like they weren't allowed to talk about an opinion many of them shared. I can even sort of understand why they decided to go do their own thing.
But they didn't just leave. They left all together, with no notice, with no plans to provide supplies or instruction to the 260 remaining members of the Air Force. They didn't turn over control of the IRC channel, or the bot. They didn't return any of the supplies until Israel Stevens personally requested it in the middle of the night.
More importantly, they left with all of the infrastructure companies that the government bought for the Air Force over the last few months. Repeatedly in the lead up to his resignation, Roper 70 asked the government to provide his branch with bags of cash to buy tank companies and raw material companies. Seven (7!!) of the officers who resigned got substantial amounts of money to buy companies and expand their storage. Some of the money was returned, but much remains in their hands. I hope they eventually decide to do the right thing. As much as we all respect and appreciate all the hard work they did for the Air Force, the government can't fund the creation of private, non-USAF military units.
Lastly, everyone in the Air Force and the USAF as a whole should know - we, the rest of the USAF, stand behind them. We'll help out as new leaders are promoted for the branch under the leadership of its commanding officer, Creitzell. The transition might take a few days to get back to smooth operations, but you'll get there and things will be normal again soon. Have fun, AIM HIGH, and enjoy serving in a great branch of the United States Armed Forces.
TL😉
R: A bunch of officers in the Air Force quit because they were unhappy with a few decisions over the last few months, especially the creation of Rogue Squadron and the discharge of Slyk Willy. They're free to go of course, and we wish them well. The government had recently bought almost every single one of them commune companies and expanded storage; so far that stuff hasn't been returned, so let's encourage them to do the right thing.
UPDATE: The new "Black Sheep" show their true colors, perhaps?
Comments
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I can see all of your images.
I'd like to see the officers be given some time before we start pointing finders.
While I don't feel this article is accusatory or attacking in nature, given the very polite nature of the AF SO's departure, it seems a little bit early to rebut said departure.
Not a lot of time has passed and I'm not blaming them for anything. Just asking them to do the right thing.
Gnilraps needs to get over his big daddy complex and Israel just needs to be less of a dbag in general. It's a lousy browser game, derps.
All very interesting. Voted
It is very unfortunate that this situation has occurred, this article be released, and only having time to tell what will happen next.
"Just asking them to do the right thing."
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It should be noted that all officers were going to send their supplies to the new commanding officer of the Air Force, Israel Stevens requested the supplies to be sent to him.
Hopefully the money that was invested in the companies will also be returned
messy business.
butt hurt much?
fail ultrasmurfs
For anyone wondering about those uniforms with Darth Vader - apparently they are new uniforms proposed for the RL USAF, being "modeled" by current Air Force senior personnel - a general (on the right) and a senior NCO (on the left).
Ivan Ivan
Playing with public money, no matter what the scale, ultimately means you're accountable to the whims and desires of the government. Some understand this, others do not. The functionality of the eUS government (both Exec & Legislative) has slackened over the past six months. Not the subject of this article but a contributing factor nonetheless.
It's easy to bitch & complain when you're jaded & cynical. It's harder to make productive change. I'm hoping for more of the latter, personally.
Do the right thing.
Well, those OFFICERS has always done the right thing, even more, they have always taught us the right things. If there is a finger to be pointed it should be on Politicians, eUS politicians.
Air Force IS eShades, Air Force IS Roper, just ask any pilot. Air Force IS and has been about camaraderie and enjoying the game.
Shame that is has come to this point, once again, thanks to politicians.
I don't know what you mean by "politicians." Everyone involved on all sides is in some unit of the USAF or has been working in leadership of large MUs for, in many cases, years.
good example why retards should never be given power in a branch
Playing with public money, no matter what the scale, ultimately means you're accountable to the whims and desires of the government. Some understand this, others do not. The functionality of the eUS government (both Exec & Legislative) has slackened over the past six months. Not the subject of this article but a contributing factor nonetheless.
It's easy to bitch & complain when you're jaded & cynical. It's harder to make productive change. I'm hoping for more of the latter, personally. X2
I was gonna write a long and meaningful comment... but then I decided to reciprocate the actions of the last few governments towards Air Force and pretend you don't matter or even exist. kthxbye
@CII venom - I agree with the statement. You're a prime example of it.
Having a bunch of officers run communes and stuff causes issues if there are resignations so it's expected. Honestly, though, asking for everything back immediately isnt effective when it's impossible to transfer Gold and companies im bulk.
But yea, this article sounds like it's bitching and complaining... It's like you invested in the wrong stocks and now blaming the companies for not doing as well as you expected.
@xy2set, this article is an example of what real leaders are expected to do when something happens that causes the public to want answers and explanation.
Companies aren't people. I feel like I'm commenting back at Mitt Romney right now.
"Playing with public money, no matter what the scale, ultimately means you're accountable to the whims and desires of the government. Some understand this, others do not. The functionality of the eUS government (both Exec & Legislative) has slackened over the past six months. Not the subject of this article but a contributing factor nonetheless.
It's easy to bitch & complain when you're jaded & cynical. It's harder to make productive change. I'm hoping for more of the latter, personally. "
"They left all together, with no notice"
Oh, you mean like how IS split BC from Air Force without any notice? Oh, sorry, that's not true. He told us a full three hours before he published his article!
I'm sorry I spent months creating our bot and that Roper hosted it with his own RL funds. Because that money was used for the Air Force, can we get a refund on that? I loved doing everything I did for the Air Force. Everything I -did- in this game was for the Air Force.
Avruch, when you asked me to create/host a bot for NSC, I did that in just a few hours for you 'cuz I thought we were bros. And even when you insulted the AF, I didn't go all rage-quit on you. I'm glad your problem was only with me and my buddies. That explains why you love the AF now! I'm glad you're helping out 😉
Can we still share miracle berries? 😛 I left the AF because it wasn't as fun as it used to be because of many different people. eRep is fun again now.
bots and communes, regime change, dedication and dismissals.
sounds like a recipe for disaster, just as it has been in all the smaller countries where this has happened already.
govt funds invested in individuals should be considered a sunk cost.
if that's not an acceptable risk, don't do it at all.
"They left all together, with no notice, with no plans to provide supplies or instruction to the 260 remaining members of the Air Force. They didn't turn over control of the IRC channel, or the bot. "
Pardon me, and you are the one who coded those bots and whole supply system?
What about you code something for Air Force before you start telling who should give what.
My BOT and QM System will stay with me, code your own.
Ignas: You don't feel any responsibility to the people still in the Air Force now that you've left, and that's fine. Others see it differently. Maybe we weren't vocal enough with gratitude / approval, but I think everyone appreciates the people who make things work in all the branches. There is a lot of effort that goes into it in every MU, and virtually everyone is equally unrecognized.
FIST
eShades: You have indeed done a lot of impressive work for the NSC, with the bots and with mcall etc. If I wasn't openly appreciative enough, I'm sorry about that. I don't remember insulting AF, but I've no doubt been critical. I respect that you and I could disagree about Roper and Slyk without it getting heated or personal. But there's no real debate that AF was left in the lurch when most of its senior leaders quit. That punishes no one except the hundreds of people who remain.
@Avruch Well maybe you should have put more effort into figuring out how things are in the Air Force, then perhaps, current events would not have caught you off-guard.
As of my responsibility, you ever considered asking me or any other officer who left what they think? No, you did not. Because everything was going fine until now.
Air Force IS eShades, Air Force IS Roper, just ask any pilot. Air Force IS and has been about camaraderie and enjoying the game. x2
I enjoyed my time in AF. Learn a few things on eRep that I'll never forget! Best of luck to this guys, especially Roper!
Maybe, Ignas, maybe. Not sure what that would've done, other than Slyk's first discharge none of the stuff you guys are mad about had anything to do with me. Heck, I agree with you on a fair amount of it.
If you mean it would've changed the content of the article, where have I misrepresented the issues or what happened? I didn't claim you didn't make the bot or the roster etc., only that the Air Force was now left without these things.
blah blah blah
how very characteristic of some people in the USAF leadership or wannabes in the USAF leadership. this brings to mind an episode that happened a year and a half ago
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltss3xUBX31qhpy7q.jpg
The game is being played.
Nice to see our tax money being spent so eloquently. I'll take some bags of cash to for my MU. Oh wait... no one gave a damn about my MU. I'd help you guys out with leadership but you never ask.
I laugh in my face! My FACE! And having no government position, I don't have to care about any of this THIS time! Ha! Back to laughing in my face. MY FACE!
I want a Q7 while were handing em out !!!
Nice to see our tax money being spent so eloquently. I'll take some bags of cash to for my MU. Oh wait... no one gave a damn about my MU. x2
I tend to agree with the AF on this one. The execs interest in the AF let alone any branch is pretty piss poor.
Avruch, when officers and soldiers leave a govt MU so does there responsibilities to it, If the airforce suffers because of the departure it is because the govt is failing to step in and do their job, so stop bitching and do your job.
And for the record and for what its worth, the airforce leadership has been fighting an up hill battle with the govt for months, don't act like you all didn't see this coming, you had plenty of time to prepare, hell I even warned you and other govt officials over the last 4 terms that if you continued being dicks there would be consequences. as one smart ass said to me a while back. You reap what you sew.
"Avruch, when officers and soldiers leave a govt MU so does there responsibilities to it"
Complete and utter bullshit.
When you get to a certain level it is about more than yourself. I agree with most of the AF side of things. That said, you do not take a dump on hundreds of YOUR soldiers, of your friends, and simply wash your hands of the situation. No matter the pressure put upon you and no matter the burden it places you in you do not put THEIR well being in jeopardy.
We will do our very best to assist and care for anyone who feels left out. No one should doubt that.
You want the cash back for the WRM and storage i am told. ok 90 day of 150 health used to produce that WRM that went to AF communes and came from my personal inventory . eusa dosnt give health. based on current erep prices (150 health x 90 days = 13500 health that equals = 10 energy bars for=1000 health at an erep cost of 39 gold x 13.5 = 526.5 gold) the eusa goverment owes me for supporting the AF mu . IS ,Avruch ,care to comment? ill forget about the 15 Q5 per day also. thats a gift
Oh and by the way that's just me not the other officers if you would like to add that to the equation . your in big dept to the past officers of AF. when you respond to this please have your facts str8
we dont want the citizens of eusa to be mislead . ( oh ya you would never do that)
Maxx the airforce and all eUSAF MU's serve at the pleasure of the potus, this was the problem in a nut shell, it is also the solution, unless Israel Stevens is just a figure head and totally incompetent he should have no problem seeing that the needs of the airforce are met immediately.
The officers in the airforce past and present have worked hard for the members with little to no support from the government and believe me if the funding were possible we would take each and every member with us so no one would have to put up with the bullshit we all have had to endure.