A third way?
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by Franz Kafka
We have played the game of regional politics, and have come up short because of it.
We were, to some extent, forced into this position. I recall when Arab League was our President. He tried in vain to secure a fair and negotiated agreement to allow the Greeks control of Sinai and allow Egypt security. But the Greeks were greedy, they demanded too much, and in our darkest hour Arab League took the decision to accept an offer of FYR Macedonian help.
This was and always has been a partnership to support eEgypt’s continued self-determination, and not an expression of aggression to our former mentors and great supporters – Croatia. However as we saw when the Greeks threatened us with annihilation – our Croat friends will speak out for us, but their strategic partnership with Greece must take priority.
Now eEgypt is faced with an impossible choice – do we give into Croat pressure and abandon FYROM? In which case next month we shall be fighting a FYROM invasion and PTO attempt (with - I expect - very little assistance from Greece or Croatia in our defence)… Or do we continue our allegiance to FYROM, and suffer the slow social and economic strangulation of the Croat PTO?
These are nasty choices, and I really hope we can find a 3rd way. I hereby appeal to Varlosh, to our Croat political leaders and to all our neighbours to reach an agreement. Let eEgypt return to non-alignment. Let eEgypt give up Sinai to whichever of the regional neighbours wants to fight for it – let us declare never to defend it – and in return let our neighbours declare that eEgypt has the right to govern the rest of her territory without threat and attack.
This calls for a regional non-aggression agreement between Cyprus, Israel, Turkey, FYROM, and Croatia that states that apart from Sinai, all other Egyptian territories will not be invaded – and in return eEgypt will refrain from signing MPPs with any of the aforementioned countries.
This will give us the space to gorw, to become a truely successful new Arab country in the eWorld.
Could this be a basis for a deal?
Franz Kafka
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We are already in talks. We have been talking for the last two days and we will find an agreement, Insha'Allah.
Voted and I agree.
Croats will support German side. we shall fight for germans since they helped egypt the most! Long live german-egyptian union! Heil Germany Hail Egypt!
@Adriatic_Rage ?!! don't understand... 😛
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Hello my dearest friend,
your third way is most rational published solution so far. My only concern is: what will Egypt do? Wouldnt you be bored and just waiting on other PTO from some Polish or American group? And promise is one thing, but you have experienced how Croatia, Greece, Cyprus, Macedonia etc doing things...I dont believe that one agreement solves it. I would try find key in Egyptian society, not in foreign politics.
Voted from eIsrael !
@Red Duck - yes boredom is a major risk, but with the giants of Greece and Macedonia on our borders we're never going to come out top on this. We still have the failed state of Saudi Arabia on our border, so we can dabble in some fighting there. And we can always sign MPPs with coutnries outside of our region and so involve ourselves in their wars.
For now, we just need some breathing space - this eocnomic and social strangulation is hurting eEgyptians - many have already left to find new nationalities in other countries. We can't let this country die.
FK
The croats are unresoanble.
Believe me, we are trying to agree, but so far, we are agreeing to disagree and disagreeing to agree.
But you're talking - and that's agood to hear. Croats are not by nature unreasonable, but I do think that sometimes it is difficult for them to see the bind that they place us in. Through disagreeing to agree... perhaps we may find commonality... in the end.
FK
vote and my response Franz :http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-my-response-to-http-tinyurl-com-3ts7abl--1840675/1/20
Voted and subbed 🙂
Great article 🙂 - Croats don't really care...they are just here to get cheap congress and presidential medals....
i mean wichcro gets CS and one week later he is CP.... come on is that a joke?
I can assure you nothing positive will happen while those greedy Croats continue to destroy the nation. And we will not stop fighting to get our nation back.
I'll not be an apologist for the current actions. however I will remind citizens that there was a time when Croats helped build this nation. I still believe that they will have enough honour to return to these ways, and not hide behind petty allegations of collaboration with FYROM.
Eternally the optimist...
FK
this will answer it all
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-my-response-to-http-tinyurl-com-3ts7abl--1840675/1/20
Ahmed AE and Varlsoh
your actions are so Wrong
Croats who came to help eEgypt kept their promise which is to leave when they see eEgypt is strong enough to stand on its own feet.And that what they did, they left.
they were(are) loyal, honest and did not ever interfere or forced their own opinion in any political decision!
Ahmed AE you say they dont care!!
many Croats spent from their RL time and money,left their own land to help eEgypt,I still remember the nights I spent with them on
IRC when eEgypt was having battles, (me, antjerci, kiffer and others) still remember when overk spent all night fighting and keeping an eye on battles to help eEgypt to win the battles, Ban Josip Jelacic II, HANSINO, syxyby , john rambo..and many many others.
If people always thinks that the power just come from being in some position, like being CP!they are wrong- well power come also from strong army, so instead of nagging and crying, shouting out loud weeping your luck there work on building strong army, work on baby boom, bring more ARABS there, THIS IS YOUR MAIN PROBLEM, not enough Arab players, and plz do not say they are leaving cuz of LnL policies...cuz new players when they start playing they dont even know at the beginning what they are doing!
it is strategy game...its all about how to use your mind, not feelings.
First order of business Medal to Franz Kafka, second order of business Friend Request to Heeboo.
Listen the Croats are reasonable, it may take time but Franz you have crafted an excellent plan. I ran on a similar plan, but this takes the plan one step further and does offer a reasonable solution.
Franz Kafka for CP?
Heboo..
And who are:
Wihcro
Edd_dread
etc......do you not understand that people with bad intentions exist?
Arabs are not interested in being controlled by an ignorant, enforced governemnt of Croats, they say they want to stop dictatorship, but they are a dictatorship, they were not chosen, they forced themeselevs onto the presidency, like a parasite or leech.
This game is no longer any fun for Real Egyptians, ESPECIALLY new players, and older players too.
FeDzY, an active and important Egyptian is thinking of moving away due to this situation. Akhraziel, as well as me Persoanly, are finding this experiance to be no longer fun. This game has lost its social, political and economical aspect for Egyptians.
And you, heboo, instead of staying behind to mediate the situation, you chose to move away and "criticize" me and ahmed ae from afar.
Well guess what, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. It would be easy for me to change citizenship,a nd leave this HEADACHE behind. Ahmed AE has many companies, including a Q5 weapons. should he move to Poland, for example, he would be making an excess of 10 gold a day, instead he stayed HERE in Egypt, and he is fighting for RL Egyptians.
We are not dictators. We are the Egyptians. This is our country.
LnL are ignoring our wishes, they are ignoring the wishes of teh public, i have a quote from Wichcro himself saying 27 members of LnL voted for him.
Thats 27 CROATS, not Egyptians, who voted for him because he is in their unit, not because of his "goals or intentions" - of which he didnt even outline one.
I WON this election, and I was Chosen by the People of Egypt, and as such i will serve them as President.
Varlosh
Voted!
Nice one varlosh
You won nothing. You lost 2 CP elections. This is GAME ppl! NOT RL!
OR you are good player and you win! OR YOU ARE BAD PLAYER AND YOU LOSE! You have no idea how to play this game Varlosh and company. If you can't win, you want by force! ??? Learn game mechanics here!!
Bring more Arab Players! Real Arabs! Supporters from other countries! Make anti TO actions. Do not bother Egypt on its way and cry around! My God! No one is against anyone here! This is NOT RL!
BEST "THING" U HAD AND U LOST IS heboo! She could move mountains, bring whole nations in aid! Literally hundreds came when Egypt needed it! Why they are not there now? Ask your self!
HAIL EGYPT!
There is future in front you!
if certain individuals cause problems then call them out and not "Croats" and "Croatia"... that would be a good start i think...
but varlosh has another agenda, and that is to become a puppet president of a FYROM colony...
Like first I will write is that EMacedonia is your frend
we are not FYROM, we are MACEDONIA
you insult us with FYROM
Croats that are our RL frends in this game insult us with that FYROM
If we are FIROM than thay are FYROC - poranesna yugoslovenska republika hrvatska - ako ova e uvreda za vas - toa e uvreda i za nas
Shame on you Croats
Your words, Varlosh, are not connected to your actions. What about all threats, and insults to all non Egyptian? You forgot that!
Many words are weariness of the flesh
See who help you right now :
http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/10111
come on, be united and do whatz best for Egipt
I have no threats, and no insults, an dyou are free to ask ANYONE from that list of trusted "foreginers" but, they are not foreginers, they are truly eEgyptians, and fully deserve to be.
You eBreake, are a trouble maker, and a problem causer, if i ever say anything to you, trust me, it's justified.
I have no Agenda of selling my country out to anyone. Macedonia are our brothers, when Croatia and Greece Sold us out, Macedonia - and inci - Picked us up from the ground. If, for any reason, today MAcedonia need our regions temporarily, i would be a fool to refuse them. They freed us before and we are endebted to them with much more than a few regions for a few days.
Leadership is something I can do, but it is something more importantly i want to pass over to new young Egyptians. The only Puppet president in this facade is Wichcro, a puppet of the Croatian Governemnt, and even he admitted so himself.
People, stop being stubborn, and stop being blind! Egypt needs unity, and Egypt needs it's friends. Croatia and Greece betrayed us, Macedonia redeemed us as a nation once more, our friends are forever Macedonia.
I say it now, to be perfectly clear. I have nothing against Croats, nor people from croatia. To say so would be stupid, and unjustified, and hang me from a noose if that is what i say. I have nothing against you BedVA or you antjerci - in fact i have very little against many of you. On the conterary, before today's events, i had respect for anterjici.
However, i do have anger - and hate- against the PTO Croats in Egypt. I will not call them by each by name, because that would mean going through a list of 27&, but their current leader is Wichcro, an dthey go under the name LNL.
If i ever Disrespected Croatians as a race, or as a people, you have my sinceire apology. Truly, i have nothing, absolulty nothing against you. Croatia is a beautiful country.
I support Varlosh
dude that's the ingame name, IRL I always say Macedonia...
Which problems I did to you? You pushed me in oposition. I were on your side. A believed in you and Ahmed. But you both become harsh and offensive. You suppresses any differentiality. You have sold eEgypt to occupants. Before congregational ellections we lost our regions. Why? You tried by that way to establish control over congres. Les regions=les congresmess=more yours supporters. You want blidndely obidience.
"and Macedonia opened it's arms out wide for us."
proving my point... still in love with macedonia varlosh altough they opened their arms just so they can strangle you... but since you're inspired by mubarak i'm not surprised you only want power for yourself and don't care a bit about egypt in fact...
Yes, my support is most certainly rooted with Macedonia, and why do you insist on brining in Real Life politics into erepublik? I will not discuss Mubarak, nor his achievemnts with you, but what i will say is this - I am willing to do whatever is necessary to save my country, regardless of the price.
Macedonia did not strangle us - Croatia and Greece did.
join israel!
who is holding you occupied all the time since the greeks are out??? fairies or fyrom??
and you have mubarak on your avatar, so why shouldn't i mention him??
BeDva....Just so you know, insulting Mubarak is insulting the Whole nation of Egypt...so stop being Disrespectful...
If you want to talk about RL it would not be a good idea to try to diss a nation that is 7000 years older than yours
to @ Persej Makedonski
I apologise to u amd ur countrymen becouse ofense by using term FYROM or better eFYROM. Unfortunatly - it is the name given 2 u in RL by international comunity. It is not my invention. As @BedVA said - in RL we call u Macedonia in coloquial common language and u know it. And yes, we r friends in RL. Again, unfortunatly - here we are NOT! If you know how and want to change it in this GAME - as eCro MoFA i will gladly listen and talk. This is GAME! And for Varlosh - thank you 2 for what you did for Egypt. Pint is on - DID - past tense! What are you doing now, with every new comment - well...I can say just it is - sad ! Wish you luck in here as in RL.
I saw ur avatars b4 , and I guess we have same passion for certain movie - "The Godfather". Therefor I'll quote one sentence. When Key asked Michael how did his father succeed with Joe Fontain role , Michael answered : "My father made him an offer he couldn't refuse.". I did it tonight for Egypt. Last time. I shall not discuss or comment your insults any more!
Ahmad! As I know, you are not that 7ooo years old nation. A unified kingdom was founded c. 3150 BC by King Menes. So you were to deep in the past. Thouse nation do not egsist enymore. You have different language and religion. You have great culture and history (Everyone agrees on that.). So do others countries
ahmed so you're a dictator-lover also?
tell me please, how exactly am i insulting the people of egypt when i say that the guy they ousted from power (some even gave their lives for this) is a self-centered dictator?????
@heboo
shut up croat
@danielmorad
israeeeeeel looooooooooooooool i can join croatia and help them but israel never never
if israel is only country in the game i will not join it
@ebreake
egypt is egypt egypt in game is same history in real
we are biggest and oldest civilization in the world europes are civilization we are the pharaohs and you don't know when pharaohs are angry
@ BeDva - i suggest you stop talking about this...cause the things you here on the news are not true....And if i dont like my president i am the only one who can see negative things about him...not you, you talk abour croatia and i talk about Egypt
it is always acward to see split personality and how one side support other. it is funny to see when one person reffer to itself as "we" or "he" and not using "me".
oops,.. this is abt eegypt.
hm,.. than i'm not wrong
B careful 😮 r on U
umm, yes WE...WE THE EGYPTIANS...
Guys, guys... Yah really fucked the point of Franz Kafka's article here. Take it to the IRC bros
Yeah reach an agreement please
eEgypt is ****** up
Unity is the answer to all that!
We culd have done that, Recon, but #eEgypt is private channel of two players. Sou you can't say nithing. If you say something opposing, you get baned. Before that you get some insults
dont come then
@ReconWarHawk, @FeDzY - thank you for reminding everyone of the central point of my message. I've been in teh middle of such discussions before, wheere all sides feel aggreived. We need to accept that each side feels justification for their position and move on - ultimately almost all of us (perhaps even all!) here want Egypt to be a successfuly ecountry, and that common purpose must unify us.
FK
@Franz Kafka o7 !
voted, good idea franz.
WOW.... ok... first of all... Voted obviously...
Varlosh, Ahmed ae... i am SHOCKED to see the way you guys are dealing with this... and i agree with heboo 100% on every single letter she typed in the comments...