A Message to Hungarian Friends/Macaristan'a Bir Mesaj
Sevki Silindir
Dear Hungarian friends,
I'm a simple citizen of eTurkey, not an important or respected individual of the community. Hell, i am even not a congress member. 😃
After i read this article "http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-biggest-disappointment-in-my-erepublik-life-is--1930246/1/20" i felt that you deserve an explanation.
As most of you know we had problems with ONE, especially Serbia and Spain. Some people say that we have been invited to join ONE 4 times and we rejected, but our government authorities told that we were invited on some conditions. We had to attack Bulgaria or Greece in order to join. That kind of interfering with our internal affairs was unacceptable for me. And we fought endless and pointless wars with Bulgaria and Greece before. We spent tons of gold, and for what? We drained around 300m inf per day for maybe 1 region. Bulgaria and Greece must also have thought that it was pointless so we signed NAP with them. We were exhausted by those wars and had to recover so we conquered some regions for bonuses.
After a couple of months Romania attacked us, and with huge help from EDEN they conquered our core regions. After some lost regions we rallied and drove them away to conquer their core regions. We succesfully held onto those regions against resistance wars until our friend Hungary asked for them. We gladly let them have Romania regions but we also needed bonuses. We had 2 options, either Ukraine and Russia or Middle East. Ukraina and Russia were out of question because Bulgaria blocked our way. So we attacked Israel and erased them. We were going for aluminum in Al Jawf but Iran, already having that bonus, blocked our way. We tried to negotiate with them but were unsuccessful. Then we decided to liberate Saudi Arabian regions from Iran and conquer them. But our brother, Macedonia, also NE'd Saudi Arabia and conquered the regions that we worked hard to liberate. After that we decided to fight Iran directly. And suddenly Iran was accepted into ONE. That was a shock for us. Timing was really impeccable and gave us a message: "We chose Iran over you."
There were rumours that Hungary and Sweden rejected Iran, whereas our brother Macedonia approved them. I believed that and thought Hungarians were real deal until I read some article about regulations of ONE. If I recall correctly all members have to approve a candidate country. Now I wonder whether Hungary approved or rejected Iran.
Secondly admission of Iran meant that we were discarded by ONE. We had 2 options; either we would join EDEN or start a new alliance. Again some authority from our government talked to your CP about a possible new alliance. Your CP told that he would never ever desert Serbia. That put an end to our efforts for a new alliance. So we had to evaluate our other option; joining EDEN. Now we are in the process of joining and did what we had to do last night. I myself didn't like fighting against Hungary but for the sake of eTurkey I had to.
After all things I think it was impossible for eTurkey to join ONE. Spain was against us from the beginning. Serbia turned against us after the poll on Kosovo. Iran, being our ally(!) blocked our way to a bonus. Macedonia, being our brother(!), the country that we helped the most; went behind our back to conquer some Saudi Arabian territories and didn't keep their promise about liberating Cyprus. It was clear that eTurkey couldn't join ONE, having problems with 2 founding members, 1 regular member and 1 proONE country, so we had to evaluate other options. It makes me sad to be on different sides with Hungary but that was necessary for eTurkey.
I wrote this article with sole purpose our offering you some explanation. I don't think that we have to apologize, things just led to this situation. Please feel free to comment and discuss.
A simple eTurkey citizen,
Sevki Silindir
Sevgili Macaristan
Ben eTürkiye'nin basit bir vatandaşıyım, cemiyetin saygı duyulan ya da önemli bir bireyi değilim. Henüz milletvekili bile olamadım. 😃
"http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-biggest-disappointment-in-my-erepublik-life-is--1930246/1/20" Bu makaleyi okuduktan sonra olanlarla ilgili bir açıklamayı hakettiğinizi düşündüm.
Çoğunuzun bildiği gibi ONE'la, özellikle de Sırbistan ve İspanya'yla problemlerimiz vardı. Bazıları ONE'a 4 defa davet edildiğimizi söylüyor ama hükümet yetkilerinden duyduğumuz kadarıyla katılmamız karşılığında bazı şartlar koyulmuş. Katılmak için Bulgaristan ya da Yunanistan'a saldırmamız gerekiyormuş. Benim için bu şekilde iç işlerimize karışılması kabul edilemez bir durum. Ayrıca Yunanistan ve Bulgaristan'a karşı sonu gelmeyen ve anlamsız savaşlar yaptık, ne için peki? Belki 1 bölge karşılığında günde yaklaşık 300m influence'ı üzerimize çektik. Bulgaristan ve Yunanistan da bu savaşların anlamsız olduğunu düşünmüş olmalı ki iki ülkeyle de NAP imzaladık. Bu savaşlardan dolayı tükenmiştik ve toparlanmamız gerekiyordu, bu sebeple de bonus için bir kaç bölge ele geçirdik.
Bir kaç ay sonra Romanya bize saldırdı ve EDEN'in büyük yardımıyla bölgelerimizi ele geçirmeye başladı. Kaybedilen bir kaç bölgeden sonra toparlandık ve Romanya'yı topraklarımızdan atıp onların bölgelerini ele geçirmeye başladık. Dostumuz Macaristan bölgeleri bizden isteyene kadar direniş savaşları karşısında başarıyla savunduk. Bölgeleri memnuniyetle verdik ancak bizim de bonusa ihtiyacımız vardı. Önümüzde iki seçenek vardı ya Ukrayna ve Rusya ya da Ortadoğu. Ukrayna ve Rusya'ya gitmemiz mümkün değildi çünkü Bulgaristan yolumuzu kesmişti. Bu sebeple İsrail'e saldırdık ve onları sildik. Al Jawf'taki alüminyuma doğru giderken İran bu bonusa sahip olmasına karşın önümüzü kesti. Onlarla görüşmeye ve anlaşmaya çalıştık ancak başarılı olamadık. Sonrasında Suudi bölgelerini özgürleştirip ele geçirmeye karar verdik. Ancak kardeşimiz, Makedonya Suudi Arabistan'a NE vererek özgürleştirmek için çaba harcadığımız bölgeleri ele geçirmeye başladı. Bu durumda İran'la direk savaşmaya karar verdik. Ancak İran aniden ONE'a kabul edildi. Bu durum bizim için büyük bir sürpriz oldu. Zamanlama mükemmeldi ve bir mesaj içeriyordu: İran'ı size tercih ettik.
Kardeşimiz Makedonya İran'ı kabul etmişken, Macaristan ve İsveç'in İran'ın girişini veto ettiğine dair söylentiler vardı. ONE'ın tüzüğünü okuyana kadar bu söylentilere inandım ve Macarların hakkaten de delikanlı olduğunu düşündüm. Şimdi gerçekten Macaristan'ın İran'ı veto edip etmediğini merak ediyorum.
İkinci olarak İran'ın kabul edilmesi ONE'ın bizi göster çıkardığını gösteriyordu. Önümüzde 2 seçenek vardı: Ya yeni bir ittifak kuracaktık ya da EDEN'e katılacaktık. Yine hükümet yetkililerimizden duyduğumuz kadarıyla sizin başkanınızla görüşmüş ancak başkanınız Sırbistan'ı asla satmayacağını söylemiş. Bu durumda yeni bir ittifak kurma çabalarımız sonra erdi ve diğer seçeneği değerlendirmeye başladık. Şimdi EDEN'e katılma sürecindeyiz ve dün akşam yapmamız gerekeni yaptık. Ben Macaristan'a karşı savaşmaktan hoşnut değildim ama eTürkiye için savaşmam gerekiyordu ve savaştım.
Olan her şeyden sonra bence eTürkiye'nin ONE'a katılması mümkün değildi. İspanya daha başında beri bize karşıydı. Sırbistan da Kosova ile ilgili anketten sonra karşı durmaya başladı. Müttefiğimiz(!) olan İran alüminyuma giderken yolumuzu kesti. Kardeşimiz(!), bugüne kadar en çok yardım ettiğimiz ülke olan Makedonya arkamızdan iş çevirip Suudi Arabistan bölgelerini ele geçirdi ve Kıbrıs'ı özgürleştirme konusunda verdiği sözü tutmadı. 2 kurucu ülkeyle, 1 normal üyeyle, 1 de proONE ülkesiyle problem yaşayan eTürkiye'nin ONE'a katılamayacağı açıktı, bu sebeple de diğer seçenekleri değerlendirmek zorunda kaldık. Sizinle farklı taraflarda olmak hoşuma gitmese de eTürkiye için gerekliydi.
Bu makaleyi sizlere açıklama sunmak için yazdım. Özür dilenecek bir şey yaptığımızı düşünmüyorum, olaylar durumu buraya getirdi. Lütfen yorum yazın ve bu durumu tartışalım.
Basit bir eTürkiye vatandaşı,
Şevki Silindir
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Iran is not a member of ONE coz Hungary voted NO. Nothing else to add.
adam ingilizce biliyor beyler 🙁
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@hunnia91
Iran is member of ONE, nothing else to add
Iran is a member of ONE mate. See this article: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-one-welcome-to-our-newest-members-1923817/1/20
I am not sure that Hungary rejected Iran. If it is the case according to ONE regulations Iran shouldn't have been a member. So whether Hungary approved them or ONE snapped their fingers at Hungary.
Sevki Silindir: according to the ONE charter there must be an unanimous vote. In this case there were not, since hun voted NO. So Iran is not a member of ONE, neither is Indonesia, UK and Slovenia.
@ hacoguz biz bilmiyoz,
So what do you make of this article then?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-one-welcome-to-our-newest-members-1923817/1/20
Dudes ONE HQ ignoring Hungary blame iain and avie for this.
We need help from our brothers left in here http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/19061 Fight fot HUNGARY AT MARAMURES!
ONE HQ doesn´t´respect the charter. And that the HQ doesn´t´like Turkey.
We need help from our brothers left in here http://www.erepublik.com/en/military/battlefield/19061 Fight fot HUNGARY AT MARAMURES!
150 évig itt voltatok, úgy hogy nem hívott senki.
Most hívunk titeket, szívesen látunk, és így sem jöttök 😃😃
Ki érti ezt. ; )
Böyle saçmalık mı olur amına koyim. Madem sizi siklemiyor ONE HQ, siz de çıkaydınız ittifaktan. Yok hayır vermişler de takmamış ONE HQ. Hadi ordan canım sen kurucu üye değil misin bu ittifakta...
@Ernst von Jacob Doesn't being ignored by ONE ring a bell?
@hunnia91 That is exactly my point. They really don't like us.
bize denilen ispanya vetosu yüzünden giremediğimiz idi one'a. macarlar ve makedonlar hayır dediyse nasıl girdi persler one'a?
Then why are you still in this alliance if you have no word nor they respect your ideas in this so-called alliance? Btw I am also sad to hit against Hungary but this is what i must. If Hungarian friends fight against us I cannot say anything. Because we are in different alliances now. I hope one day eHungary and eTurkey will be together and fight side by side again.
DANK AT GOLD AT S+V
very good article.
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Çok sade ve güzel anlatmışsın kardeşim.
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Iran is not a member of ONE coz Hungary voted NO. Nothing else to add.
cool
plz write article and tell your idea about it.😃
i want to know what should i do in future
@hunia91,
If the one hq does not like and want Turkey as a member, there is nothing left to speak about from our side. it shows that we have done the wright as joining EDEN.
ı believe our Hungarian brothers may think about ONE too. Hungary does not have to pay for HQ of ONE's silliness. When we joined to EDEN ı have felt just sorry for relations between Turkey and Hungary. Hungary does not deserve that situation. Rest of ONE's member have been just thinking their bonuses and their own interests
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eTurquey makes it's own choice of official information (if HQ are liar, what can eTurqey do then about that? ) and now eHungary should make their own choice too knowing the FACT if they say Y or N ....
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Good article....
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hunnia91
and yesterday we didn't fight against HUNGARY, it was plato, we didn't fight..
good explanation.. i hate hitting against Hungary, but these i have to..
if u hit against us, i cannot say anything.
"I myself didn't like fighting against Hungary but for the sake of eTurkey I had to."
That explains how i feel.
With all the respect to Hungarian friends we are on different sides now.
"I myself didn't like fighting against Hungary but for the sake of eTurkey I had to."
That is the point
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cut the buls**t,you are nothing more than a backstabbing coward,you've tried all aliances(not single one worked for you),EDEN was the only that you haven't tried so here it is. You are fighting against Hungary anda Macedonia only coz you think that we are the weakest core members of ONE and you haven't got balls to fight against poland or serbia,which makes you cowards. the fact that you fight only against us makes you backstabbes since macedonia and hungary are the ONLY two countries left in the game that actually liked and respected you,even hailed you as brothers.
p.s.one of the reassons you left us is that you are chearring when someone (romper) wins for you coz you cant do it yourself. that's same as if you are chearring your wife's lover for giving her orgazam just coz you cant.
Sevki Silindir: thank you for your explanation, I know exactly why you guys choose Eden, but that wasn't my point. It's not neccessary to directly fight against us.
Iran asking us to help against you, but we reject them.
Come on. It was not necessary.
Pure, simple and a great article!
@Bqandi0717: I agree with you. "It was not necessary." But our goverment makes mistakes like other ones. Sorry for that.
I had access the polling document and I can reassure that Hungary voted no on Iran's membership. Then Borharisnya changed his vote to refraining. But we didn't vote yes at all.
Regarding Turkey's ONE and EDEN membership I can tell that Turkey blackmailed us continuously that your every interests have to be satisfied, otherwise you create a new alliance. There were several attempts on it behind the curtains, WHILE Turkey negotiated with the ONE.
I really miss Turkey from the ONE, but you rejected it several times because you didn't want to become a real member, just wanted to be an independent count w/ ONE membership. It doesn't work. And beware, it won't work in the EDEN too! Then we wait you back.
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