[Valtio tiedottaa] Finland supports Greece
Ministry of Education FI
I am writing this letter in response to your recent actions, and because of them, today, Day 1047 of the New World, eGreeks have begun to mass quit in protest. The following people have already sent tickets requesting their accounts to be deleted due to the name "Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) (sic)":
#01.Thando - Former and Current President of eGreece - Ticket PIH-263306
#02.Jaguaros - Former Five Time President of eGreece - Ticket JTZ-562808
#03.Che Greco - Former Two Time President of eGreece - Ticket GHN-211269
#04.Geokos - Former President of eGreece, Supreme Marshall rank and #7 ranked player in the eWorld - Ticket SLV-563209
#05.Efthimios_Pappas - Commander of eGreek liberation forces and first President of Modern eGreece
#06.Makoulian - Former President of eGreece - Ticket HKU-497808
#07.Dimbar - Ticket DXT-921714
#08.tasos maximous
#09.ZeusCrater - Ticket JIY-108517
#11.kolomeri - Ticket YQI-963424
#12.Vourligan - Ticket NST-494615
#13.Fiend-Stalker - Ticket IMV-672204
#14.Tgiannos
#15.mezurlo
#16.Nikiforos Leonidas - Ticket XPS-948157
#17.liakos2307
#18.Yiannis and Vasilis balambani - Ticket TAZ-204522
#16.sergio19 - Ticket TPA-207969
#19.StamosP
#20.Mister101
#21.GreekHistoryX - Ticket PGG-598270
#22.Makrugiannis - Ticket BXK-306754
#23.ntinosss2003
#24.Columbia - Ticket OOF-848773
#25.Perapedi - Ticket DUI-202536
#26.Johnny Hawk - Ticket DLJ-678450
#27.Ntaikos - Ticket AQE-601769
#28.zacateca - Ticket ENS-457728
#29.IzualAzrael
#30.Alkis V
#31.PerisGR - Ticket DDP-120663
#32.Klaziades
#33.AleZel13 - Ticket EJR-416892
#34.Polistas 94 - Ticket LKY-499517
#35.omino
#36.Antioxos - Ticket NHU-132653
#37.Jumanzi_Gr - Ticket NSO-110955
#38.Kiffer
#39.bellumtravian - Ticket RDB-199704
#40.Andreas Bo - Ticket NOG-684367
#41.dourjorje
#42.Metallium - Ticket BBL-558396
#43.Vagelis Kontosis
#44.Baron John - Ticket NYB-112396
#45.Ptolemeus - Ticket YBQ-630540
#46.makedwn
#47.devilak0s
#48.vaskand - Ticket CWJ-353069
#50.REDMANZX - Ticket TKR-543754
#51.Pavl0s1908 - Ticket FTT-808203
#52.agriniotis6 - Ticket VYT-980097
#53.Hypoxia
#54.giorginogr - Ticket YFL-540635
#55.jimmakoss - Ticket GXC-519655
#56.Dr_LOVE - Ticket TEM-893568
#57.carvallio - Ticket YAE-580084
#58.The_Clairvoyant - Ticket BQD-484498
#59.Deo Domuique
#60.Athinaiooos - Ticket SRV-829151
#61.vatas - Ticket HAZ-982335
#62.Sterg0s
#63.Godes - Ticket KRD-319947
#64.Gustaniv - Ticket ODP-132865
#65.dracumelenios - Ticket KLZ-639622
#66.pao 13 - Supreme Marshall
#67.ZIROISTIS
#68.spyretto
#69.Antonios O Megas
#70.EnDeAtH - Ticket OXN-181932
#71.skyattacker - Ticket BQT-603020
#72.nba panos - Ticket WAW-770880
#73.nestoras75 - Ticket ZBJ-527820
#74.kypcom - Ticket DVJ-191909
#75.Aristomaxos - Ticket HHW-148538
#76.a.b.83 - Ticket QPX-251888
#77.niokotis - Ticket GXC-776553
#78.mixos19 - Ticket HXY-540264
#79.hawkoulis - Ticket JJU-568096
#80.petrelaias - Ticket HIG-335249
#81.LegendGR - Ticket XPV-881170
#82.Nikolaos Sklhros - Ticket HNX-577019
#83.Sata_Nikos - Ticket WUK-722584
#84.Iaswn - Ticket TCN-892195
#85.OYZOPOWER - Ticket KYW-810876
#86.Wolfenstein - Ticket NUB-938116
#87.Tasos123 - Ticket GDA-125679
#88.Pyrros - Ticket RVM-395475
#89.Lewnidas28 - Ticket AHX-157857
#90.dreamtraveler - Ticket ONL-541543
#91.VGreg
#92.Cynegirus
#93.mr47pamak - Ticket TWF-293464
#94.P4Pan - Ticket KGC-707441
#95.Rafail Kiriakou - Ticket QXE-908173
#96.Pipos - Ticket LHS-884969
#97.bpetros - Ticket OWC-887690
#98.tuboflos - Ticket OCG-204199
#99.lamachos - Ticket XAH-126678
#100.Giannis Papadopoulos The Great - Ticket XQL-213113
#101.sakis hatz - Ticket XAH-126678
#102.efstratia - Ticket NGX-546384
#103.ESETAI HMAR - Ticket MZK-222266
#104.Makp - Ticket VNN-286810
#105.El Tarlo - Ticket XPC-327847
#106.nontas1
#107.socdavi - Ticket NMX-913570
#108.Lelakis - Ticket TAL-735234
#109. Andrea Manciaracina - Ticket XPE-912996
#110. Provenzano - Ticket YQV-545169
#111. MrBillopS - Ticket YWW-507771
#112. Ntemis
#113. Arsionie - Ticket KEP-818170
#114.SatyrikonGr - Ticket XDF-929513
#115.angelgreek - Ticket XXB-874221
#116.madalx - Ticket WWN-252781
#117.Mithridatis - Ticket NXJ-784849
#118.Deo Dominque - Ticket WIB-300205
#119.CretaGirl - Ticket ZWR-397892
#120.Rdrunner - Ticket DAA-658513
#121.Appelaios - Ticket RTL-626086
#122.antgate7 - Ticket AUJ-257785
#123.Artemis12gods - Ticket ZTW-660071
#124.Niktop - Ticket PTP-233484
USERS WHO WISH TO DELETE THEIR ACCOUNT BUT CAN NOT ACCESS THE DELETION TICKET FOR SOME REASON:
#125.Hannahg
#126.sarissa.gr
#127.kikooo
THESE ARE JUST THE FIRST FEW. ALL OF US WILL FOLLOW.
Furthermore, in a move of solidarity zucha, Current President of ePoland, has requested to be deleted. (Ticket #MWX-532532).[/b]
Furthermore, in a move of solidarity Dean Michaely, former President of eIsrael, has requested to be deleted. (Ticket #AUE-542610).
In a previous eRepublik insider, you stated that a nation will be added under the Internationally recognized named as “The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia”.
After your decision to name the nation “The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia” the eGreeks took the high road, not commenting in articles, posting “troll articles”, or even replying to the massive amount of hate speech, spam and vulgarity that was aimed at us.
Apparently, this was a mistake on our behalf.
Since then, you have reversed your decision and are now intent on naming the nation the “Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)(sic)”. By doing so, you have rewarded the endless amount of trolling, racism, vulgarity and flaming that we have seen against the eGreeks, the eGreek nation and the eGreek race in its entirety.
You have rewarded the bad manners of a vocal few against a quiet many.
As you all know, there is a Greek region of Macedonia, and by naming a country “Republic of Macedonia (sic)” you are implying that the Greek region of Macedonia is occupied by a foreign aggressor.
You are implying that Greece and therefore eGreece has no right to Macedonia, or eMacedonia, and that it has been illegally annexed by Greece and/or eGreece.
You are implying that the people of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and the inhabitants of Macedonia share the same race and/or culture and/or language and/or religion and/or lineage.
Furthermore, you have decided to create three regions for the ”Republic of Macedonia (sic)", naming two of the regions “Eastern Macedonia (sic)” and “Western Macedonia (sic)”. Thus, you are implying that the Greek region of Macedonia has something to do with these other two “regions”.
In fact, the regions you have created are not based on any real world equivalents and are actually figments of your imaginations as the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia is actually split into eight regions and not three. As the regions are figments of your imagination, you could have easily named them anything you wanted them to be. For example, you could have used real world region names of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia such as Polog, Skopje, Vardar, Pelagonia, Northeastern, Eastern, Southeastern or Southwestern.
Note that none of the real region names of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia include the word “Macedonia”.
Alternatively, you could also have easily selected a city, a geographic region or a landmark of some type to name the regions after.
However any regional name must not and should not include the word Macedonia, unless it includes the prequalifier "Former Yugoslav Republic of".
In the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia there are no regions named "East Macedonia", "Eastern Macedonia", "West Macedonia" or "Western Macedonia" yet in Greece there are regions named "East Macedonia" and "West Macedonia". You may rename the regions "Eastern (FYROM)" and "Western (FYROM)" which is acceptable and suitable, because in real life there is a region named "Eastern".
Furthermore, the regions of "East Macedonia" and "West Macedonia" are actually real world regions of Greece.
In direct contrast to the above, Greece has regions with the names "Eastern Macedonia" and "Western Macedonia" and each of them form one of the 13 peripheries (regions) of Greece. Unexplainably you have not added the regions with this name to the nation to which they belong, eGreece, but added them to the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. This to me is inexcusable.
Click Here For Larger.
You can also review the name of Greece’s peripheries (regions) in a MAP from the UNITED NATIONS. You will clearly see that Western Macedonia and Eastern Macedonia And Thrace are regions of Greece.
At this point, I would like to quote a previous article,
As a footnote, the country is recognized as “The Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia” by the following international organizations:
1. The United Nations (UN)
2. The European Union (EU)
3. North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
4. The International Monetary Fund (IMF)
5. The Organisation foeconstruction and Development (EBRD)
11. Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE)
r Economic Co-operation and Development (OCE)
6. The World Trade Organization (WTO)
7. The International Olympic Committee (IOC)
8. The World Bank
9. The Council of Europe (CoE)
10. The European Bank for R
And even non-legal entities, such as the following sports organizations:
12. The International Federation of Association Football (FIFA)
13. The Union of European Football Associations (UEFA)
14. The International Basketball Federation (FIBA)
I would like to add the following quotation from the United Nations regarding the naming upon the entry of this Nation into this esteemed and prevailing world body:
… Decides to admit the State whose application is contained in document A/47/876-S/25147 to membership in the United Nations, this State being provisionally referred to for all purposes within the United Nations as "the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" pending settlement of the difference that has arisen over the name of the State.
You can review this document in its entirety by clicking here.
By accepting entry into the United Nations and all other International Organizations, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia voluntarily agreed to this name pending a final solution. It accepted and agreed to this name without any subversion and without being under any distress or external influences.
The only name that has been temporarily and universally accepted by all participants in this dispute is the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.
Agreeing to anything other then the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, for example the “Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)(sic)” or “Republic of Vardarska(sic)” (or any equivalent), constitutes you taking one or the either side in this dispute, and is in fact, by definition an act of racism against the other.
Once again, I would like to restate that it is universally accepted as the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) pending a final and just agreement by both sides, and not the "Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)(sic)".
In absolute clarity, and from any angle, the naming “Republic of Macedonia (sic)" lacks any type of International Recognition, at any world body, at any level.
In conclusion,
Your actions imply that there is a distinction between Macedonians and Greeks, while they are one and the same.
Your actions imply that the region in Greece and in eGreece, of Macedonia and eMacedonia respectively, are regions which should and ought to be part of the “Republic of Macedonia (sic)"
Your actions are in direct convergence with all Internationally accepted parameters.
I hope your actions are a result of neglect and/or your misinformation regarding this issue and that you will work immediately to correct this error, and reverse the bigotry and racism that all Greeks and eGreeks have been subjected to.
In summation, to us, the current status is unacceptable, and we must therefore carefully consider if can continue to willingly partake in any enterprise which minimalizes our national heritage or which subjugates our national pride.
Insulted and outraged,
an eGreek.
Further Readings:
ARTICLES BY PLAYERS WHO HAVE SENT A TICKET FOR THEIR USER TO BE DELETED
The Current President of eGreece (thando) article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
The Former Two Time President of eGreece’s (che greco) article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Ther Former President of eGreece's (geokos) article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Dimbar's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Alkis V's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Perapedi's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Makrugianni's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Columbia's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
GreekHistoryX's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Klaziade's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Omino's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Ntaikos's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
bellumtravian's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Andreas Bo's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Yiannis and Vasilis balambani's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
tasos maximous's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Metallium's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Baron John's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Dr_LOVE's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Carvallio's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Athinaooos's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
EnDeAtH's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Kypcom's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Aristomaxos's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Sata_Nikos's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
The_Clairvoyant's article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Giorginogr’s article About Quitting the Game Over the Name
SOLIDARITY DELETIONS BY NON-GREEKS:
The Former President of eIsrael, Dean Michaely's About Quitting the Game Over the Name
Articles and Forum Threads About the eFYROM issue:
The President of eGreece’s (thando) Forum Thread “The name is Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia/ admins, honor your words“.
The President of eGreece’s (thando) Article “The name of Macedonia is not a matter of a debate! open letter“
Vlad Sabau’s article, The President of eRomania, Romania support Greece !
Crista22’s article, the MOFA of eRomania, MAE Romania supports Greece!
The Five-Time Former President of eGreece's (Jaguaros) forum thread, "Reported Admin from a 2yrs player"
The Former President of eGreece’s (geokos) article “ADMINS LET'S ALL PLAY WITH PLEASURE AND JUSTICE”.
RevengerDE’s forum thread “Macedonia is Greece - A ''why'' from Congresswoman Carolyn B. Maloney (USA)."
omino’s forum thread “THE MACEDONIAN DISPUTE”.
Ntemis article about The Origin of Macedonians
TO GET AN AVATAR:
Manos5's "Macedonian Avatar Article."
Comments
Hail Greece o/
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Hail Finland !!
Thank you friends...
voted
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Thanks friends!
voted
MACEDONIA IS GREECE!
Hail Finland!
Hail EDEN!
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Mä oon tätä aihetta ihmetelly ihan IRL:kin, että miksi Kreikkalaiset on tässä asiassa niin herkkänahkaisia. Suoraan sanottuna en tajua koko hommaa ja koko touhu vaikuttaa ihan naurettavalta.
Voted
Macedonia is Greece
Mäkään en ihan tajua miksi joku nimi on niin vakava asia mutta mutta..
Tää on peli. Pelin ei tarvitse olla 100% realistinen. Jos noi lopettavat eKreikkalaiset ottavat tän asian niin tosissaan niin saavat mun puolesta lopettaakin. En mä ainakaan aio ruveta puhumaaan mistään hiton eFormer Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia tai eFYRoM. Mulle kyllä riittäis ihan eMacedonia.
Alexander the Great was gay.
What a bunch of retards, going apeshit over such a insignificant matter. I'm not supporting anything, this is bullshit.
Voted, Macedonia is in Greece only. And the admins got trolled hard.
My personal opinion is that Greeks should solve their problems about the naming between themselves, admins and Macedonians. I think that this doesn't need public support from the government of Finland - individuals, however, can do and support what ever they want.
*Facepalm*
Tää on vain peli, mutta mitä ideaa on laittaa valtiolle nimi, joka ei ole virallinen? Se olisi eriasia, jos jokainen maa voisi itsepäättää nimensä, mutta kun ei.
Minusta on aika hieno ele Kreikkalaisilta osoittaa, että RL politiikkaa ei kuulu sekoittaa tähän peliin.
En kyllä jaksa ymmärtää mitä vittua nuo tärisee. Ei ääntä tälle roskalle.
Ei helvetti miten typerää tämäkin on...
Hävetkää hallitus.
Free Ahvenanmaa!
C'mon, who are the greeks, to tell any nation, how to call THEIR country?
Macedonia is Greece!
"C'mon, who are the greeks, to tell any nation, how to call THEIR country? "
Are you well, my little friend? Macedonia was a Greek Ancient Kingdom. A Historic fact. Now, how can some people that don't relate to Greeks, claim being Macedonians? Explain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1j4U79eBMo
Their only OFFICIALLY accepted name is FYROM. They accepted it, we accepted it. Untill the RL dispute is over, their name is FYROM. Changing that particular name, means getting into RL politics. That's something we are not going to accept.
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THANK'S FINLAND!
HISTORY IS NOT FOR SALE...WE ARE AGAINST THE RL PROPAGANDA OF SKOPJA!
Macedonia is one and it's Greek because thats where the Macedonian kingdom was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_%28Greece%29
And still remains Greek due to the struggles,sacrifices and wars against the rest of the Balkans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_modern_Macedonia_%28Greece%29
Greek Macedonian cause struggle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Struggle_for_Macedonia
The Macedonian kingdom was one and it was Greek
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Macedon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedonians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergina_Sun
The term Macedon is one and it is Greek
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makednos#Etymology
which refers to the Greeks and the kingdom that existed in the ancient times
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedon_%28disambiguation%29
The Macedonian king was one and was born in Pella(Greece)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_II_of_Macedon
Alexander the Great(respect)son of the king Phillip the second
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great
Ancient Macedonians were Greek just like Athenians Spartans Pelasgians Corinthians etc
Ancient Macedonian language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Macedonian_language
The geographical area of Macedonia has parts of 4 countries,we have no claims over geographical parts of the other countries and we do not want anyone to abuse the name Macedonia for propaganda as FYROM does in this text with the term Republic of Macedonia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_%28region%29#History
Because it is recognised with the name FYROM untill the distipute between Greece and FYROM ends and ofcourse it is not Republic of Macedonia because Fyrom is just one part of the Great Kingdom of King Phillip king of Macedonia
http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/47/a47r225.htm
Onko tämmöisestä nyt ihan pakko meuhkata valtion lehdessä? Jos halutaan ajaa liittolaisten asiaa, niin meidän pitää sitten myös vaatia Taiwanin nimeämistä Kiinan tasavallaksi.
Hei mutta onhan meilläkin Etelä- ja Pohjois-Karjala, ja Venäjällä on naapurissa Karjalan tasavalta jossa asuu lähinnä slaaveja. Eiköhän pistetä oma kärhämä pystyyn? 😉
Mutta jos tuo on helleeneille noin arka asia niin tuetaan pois. Oli muutenkin aika helvetin tyhmä veto admineilta mennä ottamaan kantaa joihinkin iänikuisiin Balkanin rähinöihin.
Jooh vähä yli menee ja olis parempi kaikille kun nämä idiootit lopettaiskin
Dear Greeks,
EITHER QUIT THE GAME OR STOP WHINING AND SPAMMING.
HOW PATHETIC...
You create articles in all countries, spam and vote for them only yourselfs. 90-95% of the comments in your articles are from yourselfs - that obviously shows something.
Read this article:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/egreeks-i-don-039-t-bid-you-farewell--1532850/1/20
and this one:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/greeks-are-threatening-by-leaving-the-game-if-wait-a-min--1532425/1/20
... to see how ridiculous greek claims are, if you haven't realized yet.
Thе name "Republic of Macedonia (FYROM)" is not good for the greeks ?
Well it is not good for us too. Why ? Obviously, because it contains the reference again (in the brackets).
So this supposed to be some kind of middle solution that should keep both sides pleased. Although we Macedonians are not pleased with that solution (at least not me), most of us are still going to stay, unlike greeks.
I may not be as active as I used to be and will not dedicate much time to this game, because of this. But I'm going to stay to help my friends.
If admins are naming countries according to UN references, then why Macedonia should be exception ?
If Macedonia is added as F.Y.R.O.M, then admins should rename other countries according to their UN names too:
UK - United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Iran - Islamic Republic of Iran
Sweden - Kingdom of Sweden
Venezuela - Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela
North Korea - Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Russia - Russian Federation
and many others...
Also another thing:
129 countries recognised Macedonia by its official name, but only 7 countries still haven't. Others don't have official position.
So 129 compared to 7 countries tells you something ?
See which countries recognise Macedonia by its name:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/emacedonia1-1524201/1/20
Suomi pois kartalta
Russia is Finland and Macedonia is Greece
Balkan, tuo kaunan, katkeruuden ja kateuden tyyssija ei petä koskaan. Silloin kun slaavi ei jaksa tai osaa lyödä toista slaavia, loikkaa patrioottinen helleeni hämmentämään soppaa ja muistelee miten ei-niin-lähi-historiassa oli kaikki kliffaa.
No, eivätpähän ainakaan ole lainaa vailla tällä kertaa.
Kurdis would need their own country as well.
Makedonia on Makedonia, Taiwan on Taiwan, Kosovo on Kosovo, Suomi on Suomi jne.
Tulen spammimaan artikkeleihin "And nothing of value was lost." tulevaisuudessa. Ihme perseilyä.
Supporting Greece!
&
Free Ossetia!
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Free Taiwan!
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Give Alaska back to Russia!
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Åland's autonomy is a insult against humanity!
use mace to beat macedonians? O.o