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[USA] With Friends Like These, Who Needs Enemies?
Citizens of the eUSA,
I have no cheery theme music to offer you today.
If you follow the eUS Forum, you might have seen a comment I posted on Friday:
~ http://eusforum.com/index.php/topic,21710.msg407183.html#msg407183
Let me me sum it up up for you before we moved on. Some nations are just not our friends anymore.
SPAIN IS NOT OUR FRIEND.
POLAND IS NOT OUR FRIEND.
This breaks my heart a bit, since we have struggled together for so long, especially with Spain.
But, facts are facts. Remember, I'm not saying that EDEN is a problem... note, I started a RW in Jilin for avec EDEN's Supreme Commander, just two nights ago, pushing heavy media on it. I blew like 400 gold on that between the RW, tanks, and ads. I am 100% for coordination with EDEN. Separately, I recently tried submitting and discussing a proposal to jointly empower Poland/USA, followed by Croatia/Romania, to the head guys in our JCS and in EDEN. I really hoped we could make things work. But now that we are leaving, and not aligning our strategic goals with the big nations in EDEN, we have to accept reality. While many in those nations may still love us, some decision-makers and policy-makers are a different story entirely. Unless we change course and plan wars of conquest with Poland and Spain, we have a rude awakening coming. I say we need to be ready for it.
I have stated the reality above, in bold, as clearly as I possibly can. The next President must plan on new hostilities from former friends. Right now, I have to admit I'm concerned about Poland/Spain/Russia coming for us. There are many reasons I hold this concern. I shall share some with you. Some people in our government will be angry with me for sharing this. Tough luck. I had to get his information from old friends outside of the eUSA, since our own government either could not or would not do anything with it. You think I'm paranoid? I'm not. At least I think I'm not. I just speak to a lot of old people in both alliances. Right now, my biggest fear is the blind trust we have in Poland and Spain. I prefer to deal in simple facts. The hitch is that we cannot always speak freely in public. Right now, I can't say I care about these restrictions.
Right now, dramatics aside, everyone in the eUSA needs to realize exactly what kinds of friends and allies we have in Poland and Spain. Their leaders are not our friends right now. History aside, their leaders are just not our friends right now. I think we we would be fools to ever trust them again, unless they have a complete change of heart and move heaven and earth to prove otherwise. In my original forum post I covered some other details and offered some hopes for reconciliation... but these are now in the past. History.
This is a conversation log.
Due to eRepublik Laws, I cannot make specific claims.
It's up to you to read it and make your own decisions.
Let's say this is a hypothetical conversation with imaginary people...
...since you do not need approval to post hypothetical conversations from imaginary people.
Let's say we took out some hypothetical hour marks and formatting, to keep it ambiguous when/where this is from.
Let's say we have 3 leaders from Spain:
~ SPAIN1, SPAIN2, SPAIN3.
Let's say we have 1 leader from Poland:
~ POLAND.
Let's say they met with 8 leaders from Phoenix:
~ BRAZIL, BULGARIA, SERBIA, HUNGARY1, PORTUGAL, TURKEY, GERMANY, HUNGARY2.
Let's say they arranged a meeting with Phoenix to plot the destruction of the eUSA.
Let's say this is a partial log of such a meeting, the best we have to work with.
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Tue Mar 30 ..:08:17 2010
#SRSMEETING
[..:08:21] BRAZIL: lolz SPAIN1
[..:08:25] POLAND: omfg
[..:08:29] BULGARIA: hi SPAIN2 - no kisses cause its gay but i will say hi
[..:08:31] SERBIA: haha
[..:08:31] BULGARIA: BRAZIL: and SPAIN1
[..:08:32] *HUNGARY1: define mode: +o BRAZIL
[..:08:33] BULGARIA: muahahah
[..:08:33] BULGARIA: :DD
[..:08:34] SPAIN3: omfg
[..:08:35] PORTUGAL: ahah
[..:08:39] BULGARIA: punch each other!
[..:08:45] SPAIN1: I thought this meeting was SRS :_
[..:08:50] POLAND: was.
[..:08:51] BRAZIL: no, i will just read, cause TURKEY call me
[..:08:53] POLAND: :F
[..:08:56] HUNGARY1: I hope the romania would block us
[..:08:56] BULGARIA: alright
[..:08:59] BULGARIA: i stop ******* around
[..:09:02] BULGARIA: you talk
[..:09:15] SPAIN1: I guess romania would just try to take UKR while nobody looks
[..:09:19] SERBIA: so what are we talking about?
[..:09:20] SPAIN1: that seems very romanian-like
[..:09:24] POLAND: yeah
[..:09:27] POLAND: stealing
[..:09:28] POLAND:
[..:09:30] SPAIN1: SERBIA: gangbanging USA
[..:09:30] SPAIN2: well
[..:09:31] PORTUGAL: Russia would be there
[..:09:33] SPAIN2: for me
[..:09:35] SERBIA: ah
[..:09:36] SPAIN2: Ukraine can be ******
[..:09:37] SPAIN2: hard
[..:09:39] SPAIN1: Spa-Hun-Ser-Pol-Rus attacking USA
[..:09:41] SERBIA: SPAIN1: and how exactly?
[..:09:43] SPAIN1: at the same time
[..:09:55] PORTUGAL: SPAIN2 they can't. Russia would be there anyway.
[..:09:59] BULGARIA: SPAIN1: hun and ser cannot attack usa on original territories
[..:10:05] BULGARIA: the furthest they can go
[..:10:06] SERBIA: SPAIN1:
[..:10:08] BULGARIA: is in asia
[..:10:10] SPAIN3: I think that
[..:10:15] SPAIN3: China and India
[..:10:18] SPAIN3: won't be a problem
[..:10:18] SERBIA: we can attack originals
[..:10:22] SERBIA: but we can hold them
[..:10:23] SPAIN3: especially the mPPs
[..:10:38] BULGARIA: SERBIA: you cant:)
[..:10:40] SERBIA: *can't
[..:10:42] SERBIA: typo
[..:10:42] SPAIN1: well, that's why we're discussing, to make the details
[..:10:44] SERBIA:
[..:11:04] BULGARIA: as much trust i have in POLAND SPAIN1 SPAIN2 and SPAIN3 , we cant let you risk liao and heilong
[..:11:05] BULGARIA:
[..:11:07] HUNGARY1: we should start with a Karnataka RW
[..:11:11] HUNGARY1: to xripple them
[..:11:11] PORTUGAL: by the time we attack, how many MPPs would USA have? I mean, from top countries?
[..:11:19] SPAIN3: hmmm
[..:11:21] SPAIN1: hmmmm
[..:11:22] SPAIN2: I thought Russia would be the 2nd target PORTUGAL :_
[..:11:22] SERBIA: BULGARIA: agreed
[..:11:26] SPAIN3: EDEN would not sign MPPs
[..:11:27] PORTUGAL: HUNGARY1 won't matter before we talk to India
[..:11:36] PORTUGAL: they can do "a Sindh" in Karnataka
[..:11:43] SPAIN3: I mean, those top countries from EDEN for sure
[..:12:01] *HUNGARY2 [cgiirc@Rizon-...]
[..:12:07] HUNGARY2: hi:)
[..:12:09] GERMANY: HUNGARY2 is hun ...
[..:12:10] BRAZIL: ok ,that is the plan, Hungary and serbia attack with Poland and Spain, spain and poland sign peace with USA, them MPP it, then Hun and Serbia are screwed, cool story
[..:12:11] SPAIN3: hi
[..:12:12] *SERBIA: define mode: +o HUNGARY2
chat log break
[..:12:21] HUNGARY2: thx SERBIA
[..:12:28] SERBIA: BRAZIL:
[..:12:30] HUNGARY1: yo HUNGARY2
[..:12:34] SERBIA: as i said before
[..:12:36] HUNGARY2: hali HUNGARY1
[..:12:45] SERBIA: serbia and hungary are not able to activate USA mpp's
[..:12:54] BRAZIL: SERBIA: it is easy to read their minds
[..:12:54] SERBIA: but we would be able to hold US regions
[..:13:00] SERBIA: BRAZIL: oh shut up
[..:13:01] BRAZIL: but they think we are dumb like them
[..:13:01] SERBIA:
chat log break
[..:13:13] BRAZIL: SPAIN1 u mad?
[..:13:20] POLAND: well then
[..:13:21] PORTUGAL: BRAZIL, calma pa.
[..:13:24] SPAIN1: oppps missclick
[..:13:24] SPAIN1:
[..:13:25] POLAND: we have nothing to talk about
[..:13:28] SERBIA: just be quiet BRAZIL
[..:13:29] SERBIA:
[..:13:32] SPAIN3: who is BRAZIL ?
[..:13:36] BULGARIA: POLAND: serbia and hun can take care of asia
[..:13:37] BRAZIL: SPAIN3 tu padre
[..:13:39] SERBIA: POLAND: we don't want to end up like indo
[..:13:39] PORTUGAL: BR representative
[..:13:42] BULGARIA: and you take care of original territories
[..:13:45] SPAIN3: not my father
[..:13:49] SERBIA: we can clean up asia if needed
[..:13:51] SPAIN1: what about rus?
[..:13:54] BULGARIA: thats about as much as could happen
[..:13:57] POLAND: i don't think we are ready to give you any gifts
[..:13:58] SERBIA: rus could activate mpp's
[..:14:08] BULGARIA: rus could attack indeed
[..:14:10] SERBIA: they have no problem in that
[..:14:15] SPAIN1: how many MPPs does rus have active?
[..:14:18] TURKEY: 3
[..:14:21] POLAND: 16?
[..:14:22] POLAND:
[..:14:23] BULGARIA: :DD SERBIA 21:D
[..:14:23] SERBIA: damn people, russians are waiting to ravage USA since..
[..:14:26] SERBIA: since.. forever
[..:14:30] SERBIA: 21 yes
[..:14:33] SPAIN1: against USA I meant
[..:14:35] HUNGARY2: 21...nice:)
[..:14:37] PORTUGAL: 3 or 4
[..:14:37] SERBIA: oh
[..:14:40] BULGARIA: since lenin appeared:)
[..:14:41] SERBIA: 2 vs USA
[..:14:43] SERBIA: or 3
[..:14:44] HUNGARY2:
[..:14:46] SPAIN1: which ones?
[..:14:46] PORTUGAL: Serbia and Brazil I think
[..:14:50] SPAIN1: lulz
[..:14:50] SERBIA: http://www.erepublik.com/en/wars/show/639
[..:14:52] POLAND: turkey and brasil
[..:14:58] SPAIN1: lol
[..:15:00] SPAIN1: no useful MPPs then
[..:15:11] PORTUGAL: damn
[..:15:11] SPAIN3: I think
[..:15:16] TURKEY: cmon, turkey is cool
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If this article is deleted by the moderators, check the eUS Forum afterward.
I strongly recommend that we completely reevaluate our relationship with Poland and Spain.
I strongly recommend that we do not renew our MPP with Poland and Spain.
I strongly recommend that we find new friends and allies outside of their alliance.
I'm sorry to bring you this news.
V/r,
Max McFarland 2
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FIRST!
I have read the same chat amongst others. Maybe now people will realize why we left EDEN. Strange that our "allies" didn't think we would find out about this. Why hide their names though. I bet I can guess who they are:
POLAND = Cerber
SPAIN1 = serguma/siddy
SPAIN2 = Durruti
SPAIN3 = Martinoz
Wait this is serious?
Spain, Poland, if this information is true, then how can we ever trust you again?
Interesting...
Makes me mad
Oh yes and voted.
Why I should trust in your words? Show proofs, not words...
this make me sad
hello form czechs republiks!!! hai
All is not as it seems, is all I have to say.
This is a dire tragedy. I thought better of both countries. Nonetheless, the US punishes traitors.
wkwkwkwk
I just hope that the citizen of both Spain and Poland will strongly react to this and claim that they are no part of such ******* ***** deal. It makes me ashame to have trusted anyone about these guys.
But All this being said, I know presidents get's replaced. And A lot of spaniard and Poles are with you on this one. And the new president that will come to lead this country in the future should be asked question on what they truly want with the US.
For the time being I can only say that Canada will never let you down no matter what happen, and I hope that you don't lose faith in eden because of this mascarade.
Stand strong brothers!
Do not believe everything you see or hear
The United States burns yet another bridge...
OMG I'm world famous now xD
I do confirm that this chat is 100% true
PENIX PROPAGANDA
It sounds like a joke But it is not funny.
-Same thing as Papa...Even if this isn't true there is too much trollin' from our side anyway. But if there would be war between us I would still fight for Poland - its about fun am I right?
However, the reasons of this chat, should have been talked before senseless posting. Still, it'll be an interesting development.
You say our "allies"...
Greeks WERE and WILL be your Allies no matter what!
After this one, many things will change! Cheers for your Article Max!
great friends... not
those logs aren't entirely true ;d
Josh Frost is the best
"I have read the same chat amongst others ... I bet I can guess who they are:"
Of course you can guess it if you have read it.
Romania had plans to invade the USA a long time ago, just that PEACE has grown stronger and got there first. Now guess who the good guys in your point of view would be if they would have arrived first.
This is a game, you take it way too seriously Max.
I agree to publish my participance in the conversation above.
You should be afraid of Turkiye. We will be in Texas soon, do not forget my word....
Ouch.
Any qualms I had about leaving EDEN are now nonexistent. Thanks for exposing their true nature.
This is true? :o
I agree to publish my participance in the conversation above.
X2
If the US invaded Poland,especially on a joint attack with Phoenix I would fight for Poland and I can vouch that every REAL American would support that.
But can we say the same for Poland? Looks like we may find out
So, congratulations, McFarland & Frost. You've just been trolled by penix guys. What a noob :facepalm:
SPOLAND = Pirate's Cove
Sad.Join Phoenix.
Interessant
TURKEY rulez
"Istrongly recommend that we find new friends and allies outside of their alliance"
Like who? Noone likes big head americans. Who need a dumb, arogant and selfish "friend"?
Rest in Phoenix, USA.
I agree to publish my participance in the conversation above.
X3
I hope this isn't true.
Turkey does rule flik and teknik, I love the culture and history.
Now lets get back to the subject shall we?
@Spain/Poland
<a href="http://thepirata.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bitch_slap.jpg" target="_blank">http://thepirata.com/wp-content/uploads/[..]p.jpg</a>
OH Snap.
Canada will stand by you Brotha.
voted
I wonder how the Polish and Spanish citizens can stand for this?
Where's the honor?
wow. this is quite surprisingly...
Not to say... I told you so, but Spain has always been who I've been wanting to fight, and France who I'd like to ally with. I never quite understood the alliance with Poland but it was a boon I guess.
ECANADAEUKEFRANCEEUSAALLIANCE=CUFU or FUCU or FUUC ALLIANCE. Wait for it......
That would be so funny if it was true.
I don't know if this chat log is Aprils fool joke or real, but no invasion is gonna happen either way
I wouldn't brag with those gold sums, considering you didn't exactly work hard to get them
I agree to publish my participance in the conversation above.
X4
Poland? And you ask for honor? XDDD
The honor is in this that it was probably just trollin' When I did read this whole thing it seems kinda obvious
So I guess Honor and Respect don't count for anything, so long as you are playing a Game?
Sad...
I agree to publish my participance in the conversation above.
X5
Can you figure out which one the Mexican was?
Also, I lol'd. You missed Croatia.
Max 2, April 1st was 3 days ago...
This needs to go straigght to the top immedietly, Vote it up!
And thanks Max for opening our eyes.
Pretty crappy leadership to troll like that then.
You can see the second Polish's Prez's Goals look at the Region one. Its true ignorance is bliss
This is not fun indeed
Troll me baby one more time!
I STAND READY TO KILL INVADERS
hmmm so chukcha is brozil
i agree to publish my participance in the conversation above.
X69
This is serious kids:DD
I agree to publish my participance in the conversation above.
x666
now this is priceless
Please be advised that I will stand on guard for my bro the USA.
At. All. Times.
Spa-Hun-Ser-Pol-Rus has always been our enemy (at least since I've been playing). Think about the FUUC Alliance (FrUkUsaCan)...
This information is highly useful, even if nothing happens that resembles the hypothetical conversation above. Hypothetically we need to strengthen India. How? Remove the piece they all want and establish an Ironclad MPP with India so we can still be there with them and they can have their land.
You can tell Max is serious because there is no wkwkwkwkwk FIRST!
Hail Poland!
Hail Spain!
Hail EDEN!
What did you expect after YOUR behaviour?
There is no place for USA on the world map
I commanded the US Army 2nd Division stationed in Spain for the sole purpose of helping Spain conquer France.
I've personally funded tanking to help Poland conquer Germany.
I've stayed up late nights at server reset, even when I had work early the next morning, to help Spain and Poland win battles.
I've subscribed to many many Spain and Poland newspapers as part of their Media-Mogul programs.
And in return, my country gets trolled as "not helping". And now their leaders plot to carve up my country. You guys really suck. Big suck. I hope you can understand that in your native language. I'm glad the whole e-world gets to see your treachery.
Its time we fight back and do something
max, you did whatever you wanted, we warned you and you behaved VERY CHILDISH by gettin' out of alliance :E
I hope australia and canada won't make such a stiupid mistake.
And trust me, you're in very bad situation with no strong allies.
now this is priceless
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Join Phoenix
MICHAEL COLLINS WAS RIGHT!
VOTE COLLINS FOR POTUS TO GET RID OF THE POLISH COMMIES AND IMPERIALIST SPANIARDS!
AND DON'T FORGET ABOUT ROMANIAN COMMIES!
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romanian commies will have to deal with ukranian freedom fighters
unvote & unsub
It's a wonderful night
I agree to publish my participance in the conversation above.
X78
WHILE NOBODY IS LOOKING, Arthk! Don't forget that! :DDD
Priceless!
@PartiaImperialna
how did u unvote it btw ?
yeah, they strike disguised as Ronald McDonald. That's a commie's perfect disguise
I to fought FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE of helping out Spain and Poland battles, especially in RA..i ruined my wellness for that battle...and i see this??...
Never been more disapointed in my eLife
shut up you OWL! you ruined my disguise!
*sigh*
You should be afraid of Turkiye. We will be in Texas soon, do not forget my word....
Greece will conquer again u mongols. do not forget my word
no you shut up miss ronalda mcdonald
@Laya - it's just "trolling - joke" in Poland by writing "unvote, unsub or un
well Arthk i think we are missing the point!
Collins for POTUS!
So guys, when are we gonna kick some Emerican butt?
aye, collins for POTUS
"You should be afraid of Turkiye. We will be in Texas soon, do not forget my word.... "
Is that a promise? I never could stand those Texans.
KFC > McDonald's - true fact people....
OMG OMG
Let's see what's left of EDEN after this. This isn't trolling btw.
Law 3.2 sucks.
;_;