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[USA] Hello, United Kingdom
Hello. I'm Harrison, the Secretary of State of the United States and a presidential candidate. I'd like to have a talk with you all, if I can, about some issues we've been having.
Seems a lot of disinformation is being spread about us. I'm not too happy to hear that so I'm here to clear up a few things.
"The USA HATES the UK!
False. That is a lie. It could not be more distant from the truth. The UK and the USA have a long-standing relationship of being allies and we hope to keep that up.
"Harrison hates the UK"
False. I like the UK. I personally dislike your system of Congress and how much red tape you have, but that's for you all to decide, not me. I'm not a citizen so you can live how you guys want.
"The USA doesn't want the UK in Fortis"
False. If we didn't, why would I be writing this article?
"Fortis is messed up because of weighted voting!
Weighted voting was agreed upon, after 5 meetings, by the UK Government. The USA and Spain do not "control" the alliance, and we do not have a "majority" of votes, as is often said. The UK, Canada, and Ireland each have two votes. Spain and the USA have 3.
I will answer questions via PM or this article with regards to the UK-USA relationship.
Tradition Pictures, in the spirit of brotherhood
Megan Fox, my second beauty to be repeated
HR
Seems a lot of disinformation is being spread about us. I'm not too happy to hear that so I'm here to clear up a few things.
"The USA HATES the UK!
False. That is a lie. It could not be more distant from the truth. The UK and the USA have a long-standing relationship of being allies and we hope to keep that up.
"Harrison hates the UK"
False. I like the UK. I personally dislike your system of Congress and how much red tape you have, but that's for you all to decide, not me. I'm not a citizen so you can live how you guys want.
"The USA doesn't want the UK in Fortis"
False. If we didn't, why would I be writing this article?
"Fortis is messed up because of weighted voting!
Weighted voting was agreed upon, after 5 meetings, by the UK Government. The USA and Spain do not "control" the alliance, and we do not have a "majority" of votes, as is often said. The UK, Canada, and Ireland each have two votes. Spain and the USA have 3.
I will answer questions via PM or this article with regards to the UK-USA relationship.
Tradition Pictures, in the spirit of brotherhood
Megan Fox, my second beauty to be repeated
HR
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Amerimaxxx
lol.
UK, why would you think that we hate you.
An excellent article, it's great of you to come and clear things up.
lol this article
7th
I, for one, welcome our new US overlords.
The UK is awesome.
US overlords more like Peace overlords mirite
Voted. Woot, UK is great. Always has been.
But exporting Megan Fox? ... I hope we can have some free trade with the Brits on that. I'll keep my eyes open for reciprocal UK tradition media.
Thanks for the Article. It Clears up a lot of doubts we had over here!
You can't justify that voting system it's ridiculous. If you hadn't have suggested it you probably would have got a lot of support, now you'd probably have trouble convincing us to join even if you were to scrap it.
On another note:
The Hairy Dick Times? What's that all about?
How is the voting system ridiculous, Johnobrow? It's not like the US gets 10 and the UK gets 3. It's a logical system based on how much of a contribution each country can give. The UK is also paying less to the central bank than the US. Would you like the payments to be equal as well?
If the uk were offered entry to this alliance would the us consider renegotiating the terms of entry now that our administration has changed? What's the harm in having equal votes?
Harrison,
The UK, Canada, and Ireland would have six votes.
US and Spain would have 6 between them.
In case of a tie, I'm guessing the SG is either a US citizen or Spaniard and has the tie-breaker.
Amirite?
"The UK is also paying less to the central bank than the US. Would you like the payments to be equal as well?"
Probably. Haven't looked into it, can't think why not.
Dishmcds:
If Ireland, Canada, and the UK wanted, they could easily elect an SG. For SG votes, each nation gets 1 vote.
urwrong.
Karactious:
I'm confused as to what you mean. Feel free to rephrase it and PM me or post again here and I'll try to answer.
haha.
Thats like you threatening to remove your MPP with Greece if they didnt jump as high as you wanted them to.
I don't see the correlation, but regardless, you're wrong, Dish. If the UK, Ireland, and Canada agree on 1 SG, they can elect him. 3 nations > 2 nations in terms of SG voting.
Well all I meant was why not give every member country one vote. Would it really be that much of a problem? If the uk and america have a strong bond then surely this would prove that.
<a href="http://docs.google.com/View?id=dchtwqkx_41htc8swc3" target="_blank">http://docs.google.com/View?id=dchtwqkx_[..]8swc3</a>
Is it fair for a nation the size of Ireland to have the same vote as USA? Also, no offense to Ireland, but our military is vastly stronger.. is it fair for us to have the same vote as them with regards to war?
I, for one, welcome our new US overlords.
Giving each member 1 vote would also get rid of the confliction we are all feeling about it, the only reason I am against fortis is because of the voting scheme, if it were equal, which I can't see why it shouldn't be unless higher members want a bigger say which in an alliance shouldn't be the case, all the animosity we are feeling wouldn't be felt
"Is it fair for a nation the size of Ireland to have the same vote as USA? Also, no offense to Ireland, but our military is vastly stronger.. is it fair for us to have the same vote as them with regards to war?"
To this question, yes Ireland should have the same amount of votes, in fact it shouldn't be based on military strength rather what the gains and losses of one country could be
This America "hates" us issue has gotten far too much attention in congress.
Simply put, weighted voting is something I'm not going to accept. End of.
There was an article abouve Megan Fox? Didn't see that.
Equality is the only way to even get the uk interested in joining FORTIS. By offering an unequal role to the UK in this alliance seems to be pushing us closer towards PEACE.
>Thats like you threatening to remove your MPP with Greece if they didnt jump as high as you wanted them to.
Hey Dish, remember that time you took a 400g bribe from Turkey so you'd remove our MPP and they could bulldoze Greece?
Glorious Failure: what's that link supposed to prove, other than that you're spying on an allied country that you're hellbent on becoming enemies with?
I think the harm of the U.K. moving to PEACE is greater then the "harm" of giving the U.K. equal representation.
For what it's worth I've tendered my resignation. I can't be bothered to deal with the shit some cunts in congress give me.
You can like the UK again, Harrison.
The most important issue I'm seeing in this campaign is this...
more miss fox.
I'm seeing one problem and thats the inequality.Christ,how in the world is the uk supposed to join an alliance that doesn't really care if we join. Plus there is the issue of votes.
If we didn't care, why would I be posting this?
I can understand the voting system. Sure, it's not great, but it's understandable. They are bigger countries, have to spend more and therefore have more to lose or risk. It's natural for them to want a little more say in some aspects, and I think that other aspects that don't concern war, such as choosing a SG, have been sorted out fairly, with each country getting 1 vote, meaning the SG won't be a Spaniard or American unless Canada, UK or Ireland agree to it.
Irish Congress has voted unanimously against Fortis, so the fact that UK-Canada-Ireland can act as a counterbalance is no longer true.
The voting system is simply chauvinistic nationalism. Hmm who'd have thought you'd get that from the Yanks eh.
So you have bigger guns, so what? That just means you have less to lose because you're less vulnerable. If anyone should have more of a say it's the weaker and more vulnerable nations. But we're reasonable people and are only asking for what is fair, equality.
"I think the harm of the U.K. moving to PEACE is greater then the "harm" of giving the U.K. equal representation."
Finally, someone with some sense speaks.
American propaganda machine in action
Why would it be 3>2... everyone is using the base assumption that There are 2 voting Blocs (US/Spain and Ireland/UK/Canada) That just seems naive.
"Why would it be 3>2... everyone is using the base assumption that There are 2 voting Blocs (US/Spain and Ireland/UK/Canada) That just seems naive."
Well it isn't. Regardless of which the system is still very unfair and completely disagreeable.
errrrm that means the UK Canada and Ireland could never out vote the USA and Spain, it would be a terrible idea to join Fortis.
Harrison, ive seen what you have written about the eUK and i know how much you think about us. This alliance does not care about us, it cares about securing a high iron region and countries that will do its bidding.
"Weighted voting was agreed upon, after 5 meetings, by the UK Government. The USA and Spain do not "control" the alliance, and we do not have a "majority" of votes, as is often said. The UK, Canada, and Ireland each have two votes. Spain and the USA have 3."
Wow, I thought eAustralia was invited too.
Guess you guys didn't want us to have any voice lol.
Srg91
Minister of Finance
eAustralia
"System of Congress".
We don't have a Congress. Lern2Parliament.
Your president appears to be giving of a different message in his articles.
selling q3 weapons - 0.4 gold each - this is not a joke!
owner, pui de dakay!
yea, even i dislike the uk way of congress...
Your president hates us.
You might be the next president, but you clearly don't like us all that much
<a href="http://docs.google.com/View?id=dchtwqkx_41htc8swc3" target="_blank">http://docs.google.com/View?id=dchtwqkx_[..]8swc3</a>
send pics of Megan Fox to the people of the UK, that will make them like us.
Lmao. Harrison, how can you blatantly sit there and pass over what Dishmcds just pointed out.
Your weighted voting system is a pile of wank. Like has been pointed out, even if the UK, Ireland and Canada all chose a candidate to be SG, the US and Spain still have 6 votes to equal them.
I'm assuming it'd be through a vote that we chose the SG, right? So what are you implying with the 3 Countries > 2 Countries comment? That you would let us bypass the voting practice and just have 3 votes to 2 instead?
Perhaps you should be more detailed because as far as I'm concerned Fortis is just an excuse for the USA to make the UK, Ireland and Canada its bitches.
I mean, ffs, PEACE, our longtime enemies and archaic nemesis have offered us a full place in the PEACE GC Alliance. Without conditions like having a lesser voice.
Maybe you should reconsider you valuation of our country. Just because the USA has a larger population, don't think that you are any more important.
Make sure you understand: The UK will not just roll over and do whatever you say.
Britain Ireland and Canada could never out vote the USA and Spain. This would make us completely subserviant to the USA and Harrison, who has already made his opinion of the eUK quite clear thankyou.
I would rather eat my own hand then join this alliance as it stands.
Harrison...I don't believe a word you say, I know of your anti UK sentiment, and I've lived in the USA and know of it...you aren't pulling the wool over anybody's eyes. Thanks for trying to butter us up though hon. and i like your ass avatar.
don't tell dish's he's wrong...ever...
This was a good read, and helped me be a bit less nervous about the eUSA.
The way that was written reminded me of President Eden from FO3. Don't listen to him people! It's da Enclave!
OJ.
Lulz
I wouldnt trust you to hold a bunch of bananas for me.
I know you dont like us, dont be two faced.
All evidence goes against harrison when it comes down to his views on eUK, I say screw this Alliance, PEACE GC actually think of us as a country rather than a resource.
Yes, PEACE ftw.
Americans being arrogant.
SHOCKER.
pertamaxx
"I fink ur pain in ass bt also wub u."
...megan fox
If everyone had an equal vote, then everyone would have to put in the exact same resources. What the UK is asking for is equal rule, with half the responsibility. Could the UK contribute as many soldiers to a fight as the US?? Could they contribute as much gold to the alliance bank??
BTW Megan Fox is something we can all agree on.
well, the question to that would be, can Spain? if not then why do they get an equal footing with USA.
Spain can, and has.
Spain has equal footing because of its high iron region