[the Admiral] on War and Peace
M. de Ruyter
Dear burghers of the eNetherlands!
It has been a long month, standing on the side-line, seeing the changes happening in our game, but also in our e-world. I believe our government did her best to handle this, and I know it isn’t easy. Now is the time to take the right decisions, and rely on people and relations we know we can trust, to help our country forward, and take full advantage of recent changes! Here are my thoughts on how we could do that.
The Admiral on War and Peace
Last month the game saw some promising new changes. This happened just after our successful airstrike into Canada, some even believed we could return to our original regions to stay – and aye it feels good to have retaken what is rightfully ours. Now, we are even offered a peace treaty by our long-time oppressor, who until a month ago was only mildly interested in “an offer they could not resist”, meaning we had to pay them loads of money for only 1 of our original regions. Now they all of a sudden offer us 2, plus we’d get back the taxes they collect in the regions they would take from us. The main question now is, will we just settle for what they offer?
When a small and weak country is offered a peace treaty by an immensely large opponent we should think. And think again.
1. First: what is in it for them?
They ‘need’ to counter the effects of the new determination bonus and the FF medals, as it will cause a temporary drop in their 100/100 bonuses. So they’re trying to do some damage control. I have to give it to them: they had a plan, even before we were trying to understand the lengths of the changes. With this deal they have guaranteed themselves an ever better position effectively laming the position and chances of the smaller and weaker countries around them. Do we really want to go ahead playing the game the same boring and desperate way we were used too, regardless of the changes in game mechanics?
2. Next, ofcourse: what is in it for us?
We could negotiate for redemption of our losses in tax income and bonuses, as they will inevitably once retake our regions. why not negotiate for the loss in Congress gold as well or even...? But even so, they can toy with us whenever they want, they can be the puppet master and we dance (swap regions) when they dictate us. We could get our TP medals, but we will help them take even more advantage of their weaker brothers. That doesn't feel right.
3. Last question: what if we don’t?
It has been predicted we would lose our original regions for a month, maybe two, then take it back for a week and lose it again. But look at what's happening in Germany now.
Say we would lose income, as our bonuses drop to possibly zero. We might lose Congress and gold. But don't forget our New Netherlands regions, where we could do similar region swaps. On the possibilities: what if the countries around us would start to be a bit more courageous and together we would come up with a counter plan? We would not be able to weaken our enemy continuously, but by working together we could cause some painful cracks in their well-organized war machine. Just a thought, but this could very well become reality very soon.
New alliance?
Anyway, this will never happen if we let the empires dictate the future of the smaller nations in this game. This will never happen if we don’t build very strong alliances and friendships with countries – and moreover people – we have learned we can trust. We need to be there when a new alliance arises. Alliances with dear and old, and powerful friends, that will support us if and when under our terms we would like to sign a treaty. Am I dreaming? Maybe, but I am not dreaming alone, and it would be my honor to officially represent our country in those talks.
True allies / old allies
The last government has been mending fences with nations we have not been all too close with in the last months to year(s), while accidently offending a true ally. And how do we know what to expect of a new or renewed relationship? Can we trust them, will they put up? Why invest in them at the danger of alienating our true an old allies from us? And that at a moment in time were we need them the most..
Democracy as means, not goal
It’s great if you can be open about plans and if you have the time to write lengthy articles, but in reality a lot happens that you will never see. I urge everyone to stop pretending that it is in our country’s interest to just share everything with everyone and start motions about that in the name of Democracy. Even theoretically: what if we let people who just show up once every 3 weeks, who are clueless on game changes or international relationships, decide on important matters?
Everyone who is willing to put in the time and effort, can get to government positions where this information is available. But in times of war (and in a wargame there is no time of peace – only interbellum) information should not be out on the streets. My government will be open to everyone who wants to be part of my team, cooperative and constructive. No level required, no party background. The government is open, communication not.
And ofcourse Weekstrom will be Minister of Finances in this cabinet!
"Ïck wil van niemand geroemt noch opgehaalt worden, als ik slechts mijn gemoedt magh voldoen, en mijn orders uitvoeren".
M. de Ruyter
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nice article. problemwith going to war and losing regions is the netherlands lose a big part of their tax that would go to poland to pay for their war efforts - this could be minimized by dropping the tax to the minimum. however in both cases the state would have not much of an income to spend on war (supplies COs MPPs). and this is really a big difference in comparison to the past where tax revenue was not effected.
and the bigger problem is the alliance: are there enough and strong countries to ally with, countries that would not only stand in battles against poland but are also able to win the battles? is there enough money to make MPPs
if both goes wrong (losing regions/no strong allies) netherlands gets from war:
-battles
-the feeling they annoy poland (but poland may not even give a sh.t)
-feeling of patriotism
-boredom as they always fight the same RW-battles
but also loses
-congress
-boni/productivity
-up to 80% of the tax
-people spend money on weapons in war and not for becoming self sufficient
-boredom because of treaty
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also: USA has also a non aggression pact with spain/poland now
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mofa-usa-spoland-non-aggression-pact-pl-en-es--2347925/1/20
when they'd wipe our original regions, we have our capitol in Canada, where we could do region swaps with as well. As long as it's benificiary to both parties ofcourse.
well that of course is a nice position for netherlands at the moment. however living in exile means still 80% of taxes go to poland if they occupy your original regions (croatia also had a nice not too small amount of regiions in exile before the game change...).
and if poland wants to annoy you they can just send a MU to fight against you in regionswitchbattles and RWs in canada until you lose your exile-region...
regardless on how many regions and boni you have in exile as the netherlands have only 4 historical regions it means every original region it loses in europe = 20% of the taxes are gone
Well you know, let's first find out if PL wants to sign a treaty with you at all. Heh.
already had a word 😉
Interesting, so did I. Multiple ones, of course.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-bs-serbia-demands-will-spoland-retreat--2348249/1/20
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dont worry vanSpijck Poland doesnt want to sign a treaty with you as CP. We don't want you to break it.
au contraire, I could only break it when not being CP.
Hope we get a CP who actually wants a deal with Poland!
missing the reality here?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-bs-serbia-demands-will-spoland-retreat--2348249/1/20
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-eserbian-mofa-brief-overview-and-spoland-039-s-nap-with-usa-eng-srb--2348098/1/20
Nope. Everything is possible as long as you treat people with respect. If you don't treat Poland with respect, why should they respect you?
I hope eNL will vote a CP who makes a better deal with Poland. 😉
That is something we can agree on, but I doubt we have the same person in mind. 😉
I assume deep down you allready know this but telling a country to accept your terms or get wiped is not really a treaty.
Good luck. o7
Oh by the way, the current cabinet didn't offend a 'true' ally at all. It's just spinning from your end.
I already gave examples on that on our forum😁
Oh, and on the 'New' Netherlands, that'll gain increased amounts of Det bonus, which means we have to swap around against a stronger nation, which we're bound to screw up at one point. Good luck with that.
i think poland only really wants the oil in netherlands so more or less they want to get a route to it and then at a given time netherlands will have to RW the regions - while pole soldiers are told not to hit.
for the time when route to netherland is "freed" (=in netherlands hands) poland will use the oil in norway. then when they have to leave these regions because of determination building up they will want to establish the netherland-route again. don't think that poland will make the switch from netherland to norway-oil vice versa in a short time but will wait to establish the route A before they let RWs in route B start
Polands routes through germany
http://tinyurl.com/pgb7y5j
or without pics http://tinyurl.com/ohd5u9z
PL will still want NL regions when they hold the NO oil. I'm not entirely sure your picture is accurate though.
Route-wise that is.
from the picture of the routes poland would only seem to need 2regions in the netherlands
this poses an other problem:
-netherlands would have original regions
->means by default the capital would be in a region in europe
->boni in canada are without(? hope thats right) a connection to capital
= many unusable boni
so
1. when poland uses the netherland-route to oil netherlands would have the capital in 1of the original regions which are neither conected to each other nor to regions in canada
=1 bonus
2.when poland does not use netherland regions netherlands would have all their original region (like now) and capital would by default be in one of them. however again no connection to canada regions
=3boni
->boni in canada would be of no use
Yeah, little point in keeping Can regions, not to mention the increasing Det bonus over there. Capital will be permanently in Canada once NL regions get wiped though.
yes that's what i was getting at. would be better for NL to get poland to wipe all 4original regions when they go for NL oil and not only the ones they might need... if NL signs some sort of treaty
PL can't just wipe a few regions, the NE needs to clear. Once the capital moves to Canada, it stays there, even when NL regions get liberated again, until that region in turn gets occupied.
ah yeah you are right with the NE (nobody would sign a peace treaty and other stuff like cutting through the opponents would not work) however i read the wiki and it said the capital moves as soon as you have original regions to the biggest one of them (dunno if that is still up to date though) - in exile the capital is the biggest region (citizenwise) there
so if that is true RWing regions not needed by poland as soon as the war ends would be stup1d
however if poland has to leave NL because of domination (NLgets capital there = boni in canada lost) it would be a good time to cut back on regions in canada to get determination there down as NL can't use the boni there anyway when capital is in europe
Been out of game for a little over a year, but never heard about the capital moving itself when regaining OG regions. Interesting.
the routes are considering the regions they want from germany in german treaty. however they get cattle in norway route and cattle also with the route in netherlands - maybe they will take both cattles there to make sure...
german treaty http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-cp-outcome-of-the-referendum-de-en--2347540/1/20
Like I wrote, it has to be worthwhile for both Canada and us. In that case they'd be more then happy to fight on our side. So your argument about them being stronger holds no meaning.
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Let's try this together o/
dancing will destroy our shield effectively.