[Speaker] Congress IRC Meeting Report
Addaway
Hello again, tonight I bring you the first report from a Congress meeting on IRC. This meeting lasted 1 hour and 40 minutes and I've condensed it down into a report, so all can see what we discussed!
We discussed these topics:
1. Congressional Communication
2. The PTO threat
3. Foreign Affairs and Defence
4. Finance
5. Home Affairs.
The Congressmen present were: Adrastos,Ayame Crocodile, Lonqu, Mario RIO Smerc, mwcerberus, Rob the Bruce, Robin Redcap, Sir Rex, Kravenn, Goku Jones, Pitcity, Sven Goran, Hotfuz, CottonPicken and Thomas765.
The way I've laid this out is that occasionally there are direct quotes from Congressmen making a useful point, and I have also added information to show the general flow of the debate. Hope you find it interesting, feedback on the layout appreciated o7
Acroc: We need better communication between the CP and Congress.
Rob the Bruce: Not sure we need to hide congressional discussion.. does it need to be private? Reddit could lead to players joining the game
Sven suggests the idea of an article based congress, accessible to the public and easy to see, Ingame. Speaker would publish an article on a particular issue, debate in the comments. Not use for sensitive discussion, but for public discussion. Public interjection and chaos in these debates an issue.
Could use articles for big public debates, but not for day-to-day. There is an issue with public not seeing congress debate if on forums
Sven: "many of the public just won't use forums, even if u paid them"
lonqu: the speaker should write articles weekly detailing what the congress has been discussing the previous week
Sven: we shouldn’t jump the gun and think "who's forum shall we use?" when there may be alternatives to what could be a divisive approach
Me: if congressmen aren't willing to discuss things they probably shouldn't be congressmen
lonqu: if there were more things to discuss then i'm sure congress would communicate more, in the last few months, i have seen a poor government-congress communication.
ACroc: we need greater governmental comms. as well as amongst congress
Goku: a private reddit for just congress, the posts there are not in time order so flamewars will be downvoted and end up at the bottom of the discussion. The good posts on topic will be at the top. It isnt linked to forums so there can never be any ban issues. I'd say atm the eUK forums have 0 issues, they could always pop up later if it gets more active
Lonqu: to make better use of the forums, there should be links to forums discussions in the ingame pms
A straw poll was taken, and the majority were in favour of moving to the eUK Forums for debate.
Hotfuz – Close borders.
However, unenforceable many point out.
ACroc said that we could draw up guidelines for Congressmen on immigration
Any agreement impossible without PP agreement – Sven
Name and shame congressmen who let in irresponsibly
Acroc: Speaker should publicly announce those who ignored guidelines at the end of Congress term
There was some general anger towards New Era for their perceived involvement in the PTO threat.
Sven: no, not all New Era support Hollen/Don's approach.
Acroc: Totally agree Sven, Clearly only a couple do... sadly they're the most vocal and entrenched NE members
RobinRedcap: Would it be worth making a guide for first time congress members? Just a quick one that mentions what to do regarding CS passes, rogue proposals etc.?
Lonqu: we all seem to agree the current system doesnt work
Sven: yes guidelines should be pm'd but the wording should be jointly agreed by congress. indeed, other party's may have an even more stringent internal policy re cit apps which would be above and beyond what any guidelines would require
Acroc: Opinions shouldn't be legislated against. Just acting without thought
Lonqu: it should also fall on the PP's, when they choose who to put in for congress, they make sure they understand the guidelines
Thomas765: but it should be up to congress to elect a speaker who would be willing to inform congress.
Speakers Note: The General Consensus was to create guidelines for CS, I will talk to PPs on the issue.
Discussion about the wars in Norway and against Moldova. There was some anger about the lack of information being given to congress about the wars.
Acroc: we need to be given information about the long term strategy
It was proposed that USA might be able to help us out with Moldova?
Then the question was asked 'have the Gov been communicating with the USA?'
Lonqu:I would like confirmation from the goverment as to communication with USA
There was lots of agreement with Lonqu on this point
ACroc: Info as to whether LT will continue their never ending war with Sweden and keep them distracted would be nice too
Speakers Note: I will be following up the Congressmen's request for information with the CP and relevant ministers
I raised the idea of getting an Org for Congress, this was met with general positivity
Congress to take a more active role regarding the money in the Country accounts,come up with own ideas for spending without waiting for the CP.
Lots of ideas for spending were suggested,such as Combat Orders, Company upgrade loans.
ACroc: Gov always has horded too much and been too scared of investment
Speakers Note:I have already spoken briefly to the current CP about getting an org (or two) for Congress to use, and I have ticketed the admins to see if they will recognise an org as being a 'Congress' org. We shall see
Suggested that Congress could take the lead on HA
Goku: Opening an article linked to each debate [As was discussed in the Communication section] is really going to do wonders for HA
Acroc: Needs moar MoHA staff
Goku: you need ACTIVE people with a few ideas on how to recruit and inform newbies, and also inform the rest of us via articles etc
ACroc: Answer should be make it as easy as possible for people to publish things as MoHA
We had a lot of discussion about potentially having Congress select people to to go into ministries, there was general approval of this idea
SirRex: Congress decide who are deputies means they have more power, in all ministries. More democratic, ministries a joint effort between Congress and CP.
That is the end of the report from this meeting. The next meeting will take place this Sunday at 7pm.
Thanks for coming guys, it was good fun o7
Adrastos
Speaker
Comments
Moo
Voted!
It was a very productive meting really. A tought we agreed and descused great on a lot of things and got a few things clear 😃
o7
More than i think any of us expected !!
It was a great meeting and a lot was discussed. Lets keep this up for the other meetings 🙂
o7
Looks like some good discussions sorry I couldn't make it. Hopefully I can get to the next one.
o7
I'd like to see more of these 🙂
Looks like a productive meeting, I am impressed! o7
o7
Great work Adastros!
Instead of waiting for a consensus on where the discussion should take place why not simply start discussions in different places and see what takes off? Post articles, forum/reddit threads to the in game message and see what happens.
Congress members, and indeed any member of the public, can apply to be in a ministry or to volunteer in pretty much any branch of government, it's really easy. If you all think it's such a great idea do it already!
As for the PTO threat, it's something we have to deal with from time to time, but the best thing is to nip it in the bud. No more congress allowing serbs in, and certainly no more PPs letting serbs run for congress until this is sorted.
Good work, will respond to your PM sometime tomorrow
votato
Why does everybody keep ignoring me when I tell them I set up a public congress discussion space? Only congress can see, visible to everyone... Why do people keep forgetting this? <_<