[South Africa] Unity and Playing Nice *UPDATED*
ZironiaInc
eSouth Africans now have a representative on the political scene in Brazil. This is in no small part due to our very virulent Hollysglad, who managed to secure a Party President seat in one of the inactive parties of Brazil and get as many eSouth Africans to either join up or, if that was not possible at the time, to at least express their support. I am, sadly part of the latter, so I feel that my support to this movement is necessary.
First of all, I would like to invite all e South Africans living in Brazil to join this party and it’s respective forum. A guest section will also be made available shortly for any Brazilian citizen who requires clarification as to our position with Brazilian politics. I would like to hope that all of us got over the initial shock and are done trolling each other to no real end. I would also like to invite the Brazilian side to put previous happenings behind them and to listen to us.
As the second order of business I would like to insist that every eSouth African tones down his or her protests to the current state of affairs. It serves no further purpose and will only put our precarious position under even more unnecessary pressure. The time to be hot-headed and angry has come and gone. We all had to vent and express our anger at the situation. We have done so, over and over. It’s time to get to get down to serious business.
I would like to take some time to address a few words to Brazilian citizens reading this:
Personally, I feel that the time of throwing more or less mature insults at each other has passed and I hope you feel the same way. The time has come to calm down and at the very least try to work together towards a satisfactory end.
As for the supposed attempt to PTO Brazil, that is a joke I hope.There is no intention of that happening as far as I know and I doubt it will be an option anytime soon. But yes, we will do our best to take our party to the top 5 list so that we can offer representation for eSouth African citizens.
Finally, I would like to ask our citizens to calm down, join the South African party in Brazil, join the forums, tell a friend to join, keep in contact with the leadership of the movement and be patient.
I would like to ask Brazilian citizens to put the past where it belongs and give negotiations a chance.
*UPDATE*
Another issue that has been brought up repeatedly is the way that the South Africans in Brazil party came to exist.Precisely there has been talk of a Take-Over of an active Brazilian party.I would like to point out that the elections for Party President were won correctly by Hollysglad, just like the congressional elections were won correctly by the Brazilians in South Africa in May.I think this issue is a moot point and I do not support the returning of the party to it's former owners by any other means than another election.If we admit that the party was stolen, we have to admit that South Africa was also stolen and this brings us back to square one,with both sides throwing insults at each other.
In other news, the forum of the party now has a section opened for any Brazilian citizen that wishes to discuss the existence of the party,it's motives and operations. http://z3.invisionfree.com/SA_In_Brazil/index.php?act=idx this is the link and I hope to see as many people as possible get involved in this discussion.
Play nice,stay together and try not to be jackasses,
Cheers.
Siroe
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So I got to just accept the fact that they stole my eCountry and let them have it and then after a while if I beg nice enough they might let me have a small piece of it back?
NEVER! I'll stop fighting brazilians in eRep the day they give back every last bit of it that they stole.
"Personally, I feel that the time of throwing more or less mature insults at each other has passed and I hope you feel the same way. The time has come to calm down and at the very least try to work together towards a satisfactory end"
Thats it!
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The negotiations are moving forward thanks to a very cooperative Brazilian government and the good natured attitude of eSouth Africans. I hope to bring the first round to conclusion soon, stay tuned!
Siroe, very nice article! Voted!
Well said Siroe. Voted!
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Very good article Siroe.
I completely agree.
now u SA's r talking like a man. congratz.
Voted. But I still want my five northren provinces back you Brazilians! ; )
Voted. But I still want my five northren provinces back you Brazilians! ; )
Thumbs up
Voted!
Well said. Voted.
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I leave for a few months and come back under the control of Brazil.
Es ist ein Vogel!
Es ist ein Flugzeug!
Nein!
Es ist Super Siroe!
"now u SA's r talking like a man. congratz."
Not really. Quite the opposite really. What we are doing is making the best of a bad situation. Personally, I lean more to the side of Krimpiekat, but I will not stand in the way of the will of the majority of eSouth Africans and I won't stand in judgment of their decisions.
"This is in no small part due to our very virulent Hollysglad, who managed to secure a Party President seat in one of the inactive parties of Brazil"
the "Frente integralista Brasileira" is not a inactive party that was a new party and Holysglad have stoled it, and its not nice.
why all of you don't create a party why to you instead of stealing a party not create one? is only 40 golds shared by South Africans in Brazil, I think you have money for that.
i think the right to do is give back the party to his owner
voted by the order but not by the through
@Jizzie & Krimp: There will always be hard feelings between some people, I'm not trying to change that.All I really want is that RL South Africans that join the game have a place to be a part of, a party that will listen to their needs as soon as they are eBorn.We can't do that without getting directly involved.
@Keanu Stryker:I'm sure your presence would have ensured complete success of our cause.
@Carl Gustaf😕et's not go into this.Please, the party has been taken and control of it will not be given up willingly.The elections for Party President were won fair and square,just like the May congressional elections in South Africa.Don't start an argument for a moot point.
@The rest: Thanks for the support!
@Carl Gustav: "Live by the sword, die by the sword." "Turnabout is fairplay."
@Ziro: South Africans do not politely reach for their ankles as I have observed. I don't think they ever will. They are tough stuff; afterall, they survived 50% extermination in real life (at least the Boers did).
People have to understand that eSouth Africa was one of the few nations in the world that was not out for itself; it was out for understanding and hope. It strove to be a beacon of love, happiness, and thought. It never wanted war!
Indonesia continued to mock and ridicule us, and after trying to talk to them for almost a year, they kept ignoring our existence. Eventually, we decided the best course of action was to thus take our lands back by force, since Indonesia was not going to co-operate peacefully.
When we tried to get our land back, Brazil and Indonesia PTO'd our government and annexed what little of our country we had left since the second Indonesian war a year ago. You took over a place where no matter who you were you were welcome, we were a nation of peaceful people!
If you freed just a small portion of our land, maybe even just a region, you must understand that we wouldn't get international support to whoop your ass. That's not how we roll, we made a mistake by turning that way before we got annexed, but understand that there were those (Including me) who wanted to continue co-operative talks, despite the lack of interest on Indo's side. We are all in this new world togethor... some of us are here to be imperialists, and others are here to be leaders, some just want to work and train. We, the eSouth African people, are here to be loving to all, and that's not a joke. We deserved and deserve our land back, and after being pushed around by nation after nation over a year and a half, it is time that the world recognize who we really are. We are the true "Peace" in this world.
I just want to clear up with a lot of you, I was there when the DOW decision was made in our secret underground laboratory. It was a very scary decision, and you can be well aware we would never make it again. We are here to be your friends, the worlds friends, but we can't be your friends if you don't understand who we really are.
I understand that perfectly Siroe, which is why I would never interfere with eSOuth Africans getting some bit of land to call home. I was only speaking for myself as I realize that I would probably not be welcome in an eSA under Indo-Brazil, while I also vowed never to live in such a place. I will continue fighting for a free eSA in other ways and will offer you whatever support I can.
@Carl Gustav - How ironic that you would be complaining about eSouth Africans stealing something from eBrazil. Just be glad that it is only a party they "stole."
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Great article.. 🙂
Agreed, and voted. Well written, Siroe. Makes me want to quit my job in Florida and move back. 😉
Nice words. Lets see their further actions.
Voted.
Finally someone who we can trust!
@Siroe-i support the eSA being more integrated in Brasil i just don't liked the way you get to this :/
by the way
good luck 😉
ps: siroe you will stay in usa or will come to Brasil?
@Jizzie McGuire - lol ironic, a steal still being a steal, right?
@carl gustaf: please be a man, bend over and accept the take over. we have great plans for the ebrazilians still in the party. we will bring you to the highest, and biggest, as we are the best and the most.... stay in the party and try to be as good as we are!
just few words of ebra wizdom turning back.
I believe if the party has stoled, then must give back....
E tenho dito ....
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As jizzie said. I wont stand in the way of the majority. Any opinions expressed by me on this matter is my own and I do not want to influence anybody with them.
Until brazil give back all the provinces they stole I will not stop fighting them in whatever way I can. No matter how small.
To the rest of you trying the negotiations route I wish the best of luck. Personally I still see it as begging for something that a bully took from you on the playground.
I refuse to beg for something that's mine.
Hey, c'mon, nobody wants another flame war like the one that passed, do you? Brazil won the elections in SA, and Hollysgrad won the elections for the party, thats ALL. If they stole the party, we stole SA. So, let's stop judging their attitude, because our attitude was the same. They deserve this party, since they are party of Brazil now.
"Until brazil give back all the provinces they stole I will not stop fighting them in whatever way I can."
Man, it wasn't "stolen"... Wars, trades... everything is part of the political subject. If a real war happens NOW in the real world, it can happen too. So, let's not consider it a stole case, but, a political one, okay?
Keanu Benedict: Please go ask an adult to explain this whole debate to you because you seem a little lost and not very lucid.
I know you're trying to say something profound but you're just not making any sense.
Well written Siroe. Im backing Jizzer on this one. Well done Holly.
Hey SA! Its not your country anymore 🙂 deal with it bitches!
wmd, please, as you are not an eSouth African or eBrazilian, please do not bother the nice people in this article. And before you say you're a Brazilian, moving here 10 days ago doesn't count.
Please, rookie, for everyone's sakes, don't try to start a flame war here.
~Signed, N4ked Sn4ke.
... and used the oppressor to breed back up their numbers. Now that's what I call making the best of a bad situation 😉