[RUS] The eUkrainian Case Study - useful tips for eRussia
mihail.cazacu
Hi! I'm the Romanian Ambassador to Ukraine and I would like to share with the Russian readers a few thoughs based on my experience in Ukraine.
When Romania TOed Ukraine last month everybody believed we are going to rob the country blind, replace the president and then have the next president press the “Retreat” button every time we would attack, thus conquering Ukraine down to her last province. True, we could do that. After all Hungary did rob the Ukrainian treasury last time they TOed that country. And then they voted PetiB as president of Ukraine. 🙂
But guess what? There are cleaner ways to play this game!
Not only did we let alone Ukraine’s treasury, but we’ve also left the Congress as soon as the peace between Ukraine and Romania was signed.
Well, we also did two other things: we protected Ukraine with 3 MPPs: one with Romania, one with Croatia and one with Poland. The MPPs with Poland and Romania brought peace of mind to the Ukrainians. They were afraid we might attack Podolia and Poland might attack Volhynia. By signing MPPs with us the game mechanics guaranteed we could not attack Ukraine even if we wanted to.
And then we did something which was less obvious: we also had Ukraine sign and MPP with Croatia. Why was that MPP necessary? Because we knew the greedy Hungarians, driven by revenge and Real Life Issues would try to conquer North Western Croatia (a territory which was once part of Medieval-Hungary). So by having Ukraine linked to Croatia through an MPP we ensured Hungary would automatically declare war on Ukraine.
Hungary’s strategic thinking is still anchored in the 19th century colonial mentality. They think they can be a great power only by occupying other people’s rich provinces. Of course, they do it with the “best intentions”. Like in the case of Ukraine, where they held Dnipro (Kiev) and Siveria, for "Ukraine’s protection".
For 3 months the Ukrainians had begged Hungary to return those provinces back to them and for 3 months the Hungarians had refused to do it. There was no way Ukraine could recover them through RWs as the country was poor (her treasury had been robbed by the last Hungarian TO) and had a small population. But we wanted to prove to the Ukrainians and to the whole world brains beat brute force any day.
This is why we had the Ukrainians sign the MPP with Croatia: the Hungarian attack on that country automatically placed Hungary at war with Ukraine. We had sent over 500 elite soldiers to Ukraine on the occasion of the TO. Now Ukraine had a strong army (even though partly Romanian elite troops) and an opened war with Hungary. Which meant either Hungary returned Dnipro and Siveria willingly, or Ukraine would have the possibility to launch direct attack on those provinces.
Suddenly the Ukrainian negotiating position became very strong: a direct attack on Dnipro or Siveria would block Hungary and divert resources from her other fronts. In order to avoid that, Hungary agreed to withdraw from Dnipro and Siveria. Ukraine didn't need to fire a single shot. Hungary paid for the RW. And unless Hungary evacuates Siveria as well, the risk to be blocked by an Ukrainian attack remains extremely high.
That was the big stick Ukraine showed to Hungary and it worked. Now why is all this relevant to Russia?
It’s very relevant because it shows even small countries can achieve notable results by playing their cards right.
Russia is a world power in eRepublik just like in Real Life. Hungary still holds a rich Russian region, North-Caucasus. And Hungary racketeered Russia for the Urals.
Yes, racketeering is the right word. Why did you have to pay for the Hungarian companies in the Ural province?! Russia and Hungary were allies which means those companies could have continued to do business in Russia AND export goods to Hungary even if owned by the Hungarians. So why did you have to pay all that gold then?!
Indonesia holds another rich Russian province: Western Siberia. How much are you going to pay for Northern Caucasus and Western Siberia? And what for exactly?!
You are now in serious trouble in North America. You’ve spent your own money to do Hungary and Indonesia’s dirty work. OK, to some extend you had the moral obligation to do that in exchange for their help in liberating Russia. But right now look at how the whole North American adventure is going to en😛
1. Russia will have all the American MPPs activated against her while Hungary will be clean!
2. Even better, Hungary will have Russia as a protective fence between the angry Americans and Hungary’s colony of Heilonjiang.
3. Oh, and while you were ruining your finances in North America the Hungarians and the Indonesians were milking Northern Caucasus and Western Siberia. Of course, all that for Russia’s “own good”.
So why can’t Russia play her cards like Ukraine did?
You’ve paid your debts already. You’re now able to stand on your feet without anybody holding your hand. You can still negotiate an end to the war with the USA, closing the MPPs against you. Even better, offer the Americans their regions back in exchange for MPPs with say USA and Romania. That would strengthen your negotiation position with Hungary and Indonesia. Either they return North Caucasus and Western Siberia for free or you take them by force.
And if they dare to attack you, I think everybody easily imagines what it would mean for them to fight alone against Russia, USA and Romania. They could not conquer Croatia. How would they conquer Russia?
Facts speak louder than words: we’ve shown we always keep our word. We supported Ukraine recover her original provinces. Right now you have an excellent opportunity to extract yourselves in a clean way out of the North American mess AND recover your rich provinces for free. And we are willing to support you in exchange of normalized relations.
You have a competent Romanian ambassador in Russia who has already expressed the willingness of the Romanian government to better the relations with Russia. Work with him on the details.
You hold now a better set of cards than Ukraine. Play those cards right!
Comments
misi!! traduce te rog in maghiara...😃
Key point in this otherwise excellent article:
"And we are willing to support you in exchange for normalized relations."
@hanci: 😃
много букв, не читал, осуждаю
@squeez: too bad, it was worth the effort 😉
Evil romanians. How could you do that to the poor Huns. Don't you know they have a heart to )):
😃
Too much words for me)
True, but how about the ideas inside? 😉
STOP EDEN PROPAGANDA! )
Seriously, your suggestions will not work here.
1. We trust our allies.
2. USA is a comfortest place in eWorld to train our army (not only strength and ranking, but coordination mainly).
3. We will never hurry to return our "reach" regions. At the moment we have more companies then workers, f.e. Region in this game is a trouble, not resource.
Voted
полный бред
Наверно что-то интересное про нашу еУкраину. Но "многабукаф" на "буржуйском" 🙂
Тут про что?
"Facts speak louder than words: we’ve shown we always keep our word."..Hehe..are you joking? I think yes, so if you wanted to write a funpaper, you are on the right way🙂
If not, then this is only an other EDEN propaganda LoL..
Linkinstile
Really good stuff, this is why I subed to your paper long ag😇
не читал но осуждаю
Скажите в кратце о чем вообще?🙂А то много букв впадлу сидеть переводить🙂
I don't know about you, but I would seriously reconsider the allies holding ( for huge profits ) one of our regions, indefinitely and without justification..
long article, boring to read like anothers..
too much time?😒
Не читал, осуждаю.
"Если хотите говорить со мной учите русский"
Маяковский
you want us to switch sides? thanks, no.
Ну и зря осуждаете, тем более не читав.
Человек говорит дело, хотя и преследует при этом собственные интересы.
Но и наши ведь интересы не совпадают ПОЛНОСТЬЮ с интересами Венгрии и Индонезии.
voted, качественная пропаганда, приятно читать 🙂.
херня, толком не читал но, судя по стране человека осуждаю. Россия не будет предавать союзников. Во-первых потому что эти союзники освобождали нас от румыно-норвежского ига. Во-вторых среди эти союзников братские нам сербы.
Я лично уеду из еРоссии, если она поменяет сторону, предав друзей.
Странные какие-то друзья
Краткое содержание:
Украина, благодаря помощи Румынии (а Румыния могла бы Украину уничтожить, но не стала уничтожать, а наоборот, помогла), получила Киев. Причем - силой. Ибо венгры, под угрозой МПП и румынских танков, Киев отдали.
Поэтому - Россия, бери пример с Украины, с помощью ЕДЕН, вы получите свои регионы. У России гораздо лучше карты, чем были у Украины, но даже слабая Украина, с помощью ЕДЕН, получила свои территории. А Россия. которая гораздо сильнее, уж тем более получит.
Только нафиг нам они, эти регионы, тем более, такой ценой? Лучше в штатах резвиться. )
it'a an eden propaganda
eden propagand
@Deathgo😛 I'm an Eden Ambassador 🙂 That being said, how much do you plan to pay Hungary and Indonesia for Northern Caucasus and West Siberia?
you sir are brilliant and should be president.
INSH: "We will never hurry to return our "reach" regions. At the moment we have more companies then workers, f.e. Region in this game is a trouble, not resource." What you are saying makes little sense. If these regions are a burden you should not make your allies keep them. Troubles are for enemies (not for allies), so you might as well give these regions to us if you don't want them and they are trouble 🙂
Now seriously, you should start see clearer that it does not make any strategic sense for Indonesia and Hungary to keep the Russian regions, only for them to have direct access and immediately attack Russia in case you guys decide to misbehave. You guys are living with the loaded gun pointed at your head. It's too bad you don't see it.
Insh суть передал верно и кратко.
Пишут убедительно, но зная ситуацию с нашими регионами статью можно смело называть - EDEN propaganda
bbeeah... why dont you want just to sign MPPs with eHungary and eIndonesia? Its so great idea, you will be unstoppable. Maybe it is becouse you just dont like them, no? Now think another time - why dont eRussia want to ally with eRomania and co?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/russian-regions-kept-by-hungary-and-indonesia-948264/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/russ[..]1/20
@ flicus: How much did you pay for the Urals? And how much do you plan to pay for Northern Caucasus and Western Siberia?
In the mean time look at what Hungary does in North America: they used Columbia to block USA instead of attacking themselves. Why should they have the American MPPs opened against them when they can have you and Colombia risk your necks. In the mean time they enjoy their colonies 😉
@mihail.cazacu dont play with words - we did pay not for Urals, and not to eHungary, but to eHungarian people for they own companies. And it was parter, who paid Colombia for attacking USA, not Hungary.
@flicus: He, he - you were FORCED by CONTRACT to buy the Hungarian companies there otherwise you would not get the Urals back. Why did you have to pay?!
Since the two countries are allied those companies could have continued to function. The 5 gold they needed to be able to operate in Russia after the region-swap would have been recovered in about 1 week through trade.
But guess what? You were forced to sign a contract as a country, not as private individuals. You were forced to buy profitable and bankrupt companies alike. And now you complain you have too many companies and not enough workers 😃 My God, and you've PAID for that!!!!
Anyway I love your reasoning "they can hold our rich regions, we don't need them now" 😃