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Good choice, never trust players like Mixliarder - even his own country doesn't want him(he's the only RL Pole with permaban for our CS).

maintaining proper relations > one discredited supplier

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first= tank please : (

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We will see how long Poland will help Estonia. I hope - for long. Estonia is the most important. And, to be honest, Estonians know who can they trust - already proven things😉.

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Nõrk...

Kas tema valitusse nimetamise hetkel polnud hr president teadlik, et sellega võib kaasneda Poola MU-de toetuse vähenemine? Juhul, kui see nii oli, ei saa ma aru, miks üldse selline käik ette võeti.

No jah. Kui selline käik on parem, siis mis siin ikka kobiseda.

Apparently, for ePolish MoFA "maintaining proper relations" means: let ePoland interfere in your inner affairs or we won't help you. Kind of sad.

Mulle tundus ka, et seeni kui Mixliander oli Mod, siis tema orginiseerimisel läks meil hästi. Loodame, et nüüd kui ta on tagandatud, siis Poola MU annavad samaväärse panuse.

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I'm sorry for our meddling, but I hope you understand it's been done because of who Mix is and what has he done - not because we have any sort of compulsion to meddle with Estonian eNation.

Now, we're off - and our damage is here to stay.

Oh, and BTW, just to clarify - there was no personal pressure from our MU's. If anything - in official orders, Estonian battles were listed with strong priority, to an extent where in ie RCA we forgone our usual all-in rally and instead forwarded people to Rizon where supplies for Estonian battles were divided.

The issue was that individual members of Polish MUs were hesitant to fight there even when given supplies, as long as it's had anything to do with Mix.

And as a sidenote - if you DO seek external consultants for MoD stuff - just ask around (through proper channels - ie by contacting Commanders of various MU, or just the candidates) - who they left out of their candidate lists. I don't want to namedrop, but from what I gather there will be some people experienced in MoD line of work but that will not be in the next lineup (and I don't even mean simple aides - I'm sure that you could easily voe ex vMODs and above if you wanted to (even pro bono)).

"Now, we're off - and our damage is here to stay."

Please, let me doubt on that : )

As soon as Poland has "more important issues" the damage is gone. And we have no Mixliarder left to organize all the military actions, funds etc.

So, in long term I believe you have just screwd us over : ( It is just sad to see that our president is such a dickhead and bends over in front of such huge amount of dicks : ( He must be a masochist...

To sum it up - Mixliarder has put more effort into eEstonia that our current CP has.

And the fact that some whiners can't get over one person is rather pathetic. And then they dare to call ourselves our "allies" ?

Who ever is behind that shit should really be ashamed of themselves... Including our president T6upull...

So, it's time to fight for eEstonia with no shame : )

Margoni

"As soon as Poland has "more important issues" the damage is gone."

Is that different from if Mix was there to stay? Every eNation fights based on how battles were prioritized by their gov and alliance. Nations of ABC for Poland are not among the absolutely closest allies - like Spain, but head and shoulders above just any random-ish MPP's.

"And we have no Mixliarder left to organize all the military actions, funds etc."

I'm fairly confident Estonia is not limited to singular ePolitiker to get in touch with #Mercenaries, maybe reach out to groups like ZGB.
The immediate, quantifiable cost might seem higher, but let's not beat around the bush - Mix was not "giving" he was "investing". My, how he must love Estonia to fight for that MoD seat so! And how quaint, that he was a member of MU that shares both his love for Estonia and conviction that there's nothing better for it than Mix leadership.
Unless, of course - there's something else in it for you guys. How much of the cake did you expect to get, and how long did you intend to wait? I mean, Mix is a long-con kind of guy, but he didn't use to be a felon, maybe other tastes changed as well.

"Including OUR president T6upull.." (emphasis mine)

Odd, I could swear you are from Poland irl. Also, that you've got Polish CS. And are a member of Polish MU.
FFS you haven't even LEFT Polish territories, not even from cores. Have you no shame? Or just no belief in Estonians being able to see through your BS?

yeah.. drama.. gonna love that 😛

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Cormalek, your analysis is heart breaking. However it has a little something missing. Namely, you are (obviously) not aware of eEstonian ePolitical "capabilities". We have problems fingind some more-less trustworthy person to fill CP position each month and you are talking about regularily seeking help from #mercenaries? And for which tanks? The ones we get to buy with 2K cc daily tax income?

As I already said - Mix has done more than the whole government in total within last few weeks. Fuck that - during terms of last 2 presidents he has been invaluable asset for us as well. You, Cormalek, are saying that this is "an investment"? Investment to what? CP seat of a country with 2K daily tax income? CP seat from which he can be impeached with a snap of a finger?

By the way - sorry for misleading with my citizenship and military unit membership. I am actually 4 times president of eEstonia. Polish citizenship is ONLY for economical purposes (surprise-surprise) and POG is my favourite because when there are choices, Estonia is ALWAYS their first choice (even over Poland who never supplies them).

Anyways - long shit short: Keep your hands off from OUR citizens and OUR government members!

As to my presumption about you not being Estonian - I am sorry.

As for rest - if you trust Mix, your choice, your gamble. As to keeping our hands away - as illustrated with the recent drama - one ought to be careful what he wishes for. We haven't put any direct pressure on Estonia, despite having reasons for that. All it took was disdain individual players had for a certain persona, for MoD to re evaluate his worth. YOUR gov, YOU talk to them if you believe their evaluation was incorrect.

But the only question is the net-worth of dmg lost. The fact that his mere involvement deters MU members from our country is simply a fact.

"We haven't put any direct pressure on Estonia"

lol you made my day

Cormalek, to avoid further misunderstanding - there is not a single bad word said about your (Polish) government of politicians. Our CP clearly stated that there was DIRECT pressure from "TWO/ACT" in a style "Mixliarder vs. our support". As said before - THIS issue is NOT about Mixliarder. It is about SUCH situations NOT having approval of our society. At least I hope so. No relationship between countries / alliances can NOT be based on dictating who can be on what position. What if I decide to run for president again and we will end up that "This-and-that won't support eEstonia because you once a while ago stepped out for Mixliarder the all-so-bad-the-worst-ever-seen-person"? Where is the sense in that?

Kuradi pullisitt. Teen ettepaneku president süldiks keeta ja pühadeks ära tarbida.

Hail boys and girls, anyone up for one drink? 😁

Anyways it would be interesting to look up, where all of this horny stuff cums, but i think i know already. 😛

Margooni - the difference is that between a warning, a threat and simply stating a fact.

Nobody has dictated anything to anyone. Admittedly, Estonian authorities had to make a choice between sacking Mix, or seeing lower dmg input from our country. But that was their choice to make.

If we don't want to associate with him, do we have to shut up and get on with the programme because you say so? That would be dictating what WE have to do. And that is not what's happened. You picked Mix, YOUR CHOICE. We became weary of supporting you - and that's our choice and prerogative.

You can't tell us where we have to fight any more than we can tell you whom you should not associate with. We did inform you he's a controversial figure here, and you presented us with situation where he was in gov. Without any pressure from authorities (be it on gov OR MU level), the support shrunk, as we informed you it very well might.

Again, people who knew this lowered support was directly tied to Mix, advised you of this state of affairs.

But keeping active dialog to preserve a good thing we've got going - is not the same as dictating anything to anyone. Frankly, bar pTO's, and military defeats - there is simply no way any eNation can force any other to do anything. We can just talk things out and come to some sort of middle ground.

SITT ! MÄSS ! REVULUTSIOON!!

ma loodadn, et tõelises elus ei hakka need inimesed nüüd eestit/poolat viltu vaatama, sellest et mängus kiskus sitasti 🙂