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Amerimaxx!!!

Damn..just a second too late 🙁

Now to read this awesome article..

awesome!!!

Wait?!?! Our government actually puts Q5s in strategic locations? When did they do this? lol...

...gotta love 'em.

Five thumbs up!

Yeah, my comment to that guy was basically the same as yours. We are geographically stronger than Hungary and Romania so they are horrible examples for how we should allocate our strategic resources.

Zoli = Fail

America = Win

😃

Way to go man!

You know, we did the article thing to them in Turkey... they're just not as good at it as we are.

Great article, Joe.

U are my hero!

You forgot Russia.

Oh yeah, we can see it from Alaska right? lol. 😛

Voted! Great article!

Real American Hero!

Voted, already subscribed.

Love it! Keep it up!

Everyone!! Make this international!!

Sorry, I've got to disagree here. First off, there's no good reason for ~60% of the states to have hospitals that are Q2 or lower. That forces eAmericans to live in a handful of places if they want to fight effectively, which is great for Florida and New Jersey, but pretty awful for anywhere else. I don't think it would be a bad idea to try to get it so that eAmericans can choose where to live without having to effectively sacrifice their ability to fight in wars, which is what living in a Q0, Q1, or Q2 state does.

Second, while I don't think we need the same kind of proportions of Q5 hospitals as other countries have, having a couple more for insurance - especially in places which are blocked from attack by other states or by friendly countries - is not a bad idea at all.

Third, by having so many people living in the relatively few states which have high-quality hospitals, we're somewhat open to a PTO if PEACE wises up in how they attempt it. When a large percentage of the state congressional elections are decided by less than a dozen votes, it would not take much effort to quietly sway those states while some high-profile PTO attempt is going on.

Also, how does having hospitals make for high walls of defense? I was under the impression that it was defense systems that helped in that area. And while I'll grant that the presence of good hospitals is a good incentive to build good defense systems, the two don't equate. After all, it doesn't matter where one lives in the eUSA if one of our states is attacked. So what harm is there in allowing our citizens a little more real freedom in places where they can choose to live by improving the general quality of hospitals around the country?

eUSA! eUSA! eUSA!

@Jaime

Hospitals dramatically increase population in region, which in turn adds to the effectiveness of DS. The size of the wall is dependent on the number of citizens x the DS quality, more or less.

A lot of people fly home to vote. The way eRep is set up, there really isn't a "state system" every state gets one member, representation is not based on population. Q5 Hospitals are a beast to make, that take a lot of time and money. We have a couple ready, I'm sure Congress and the President will place them when and where they see fit, its what they are elected to do. Trust me this topic has been debated over and over.

Your second point I can kind of agree with, its the Alamo idea.

Thanks for your eloquent comment. 😃

Thanks, Joe, for a great article.

voted

you tell 'em Joe!

Bunch of cowards, they think bs articles will mess us up.

Besides being a congressman and voting on election days, is there any reason to live in a state other than FL and NJ?

Sorry that I have published a wall text. Probably it bothers you because your attention span is shorter than the article. Next try I will try to use less text and more pictures with puppies and Rambo so you will understand it.

there is still a damn back door in the states with low population the threat of PTOs of those states is significant enough for me atleast to be worried.

@Zoli i know your just trolling here but your words are not helping your cause....unless it is to make the eUS go against you out of spite for being a PEACE operative so you can easily PTO low pop states. at witch point the eUS is blind

@ Jaime & Joe:

Region defensive wall😞number of citizens+number of orgs) x 100.

Every level of the defensive system adds a 10% bonus.

Example: Population (citizens + orgs) of 600 means 60 K defense wall. With a Q1 defense system: 66 K. With a Q5 defense system: 90 K.

So as Joe explained having a hospital attracts population, which is the best way to raise the defenses, since defense systems are only a MULTIPLICATOR, but what really matters is the wall's basic value, which is totally dependent on the region's population.

Jaime's remark that having few hospitals makes USA an easier target at congressional elections is valid, but I don't think anyone learns any lessons unless they pay dearly for it.

Peace = queers

Alantis = win

It would be a big surprise if Russia attacks any of your original territories, even if your mpps activated the whole peace would be there . 😃

oh: Hungary owned exAtlantis alone


In this situation the whole peace can fight from home 🙂be care
You do not go anywhere, you are in prison.

One more: Def. systems doesn't protect against TOs 😉

Thanks for explaining how defense systems work. One other question about it, does the value of the defense system change if more people move there during a battle?

Joe, wouldn't it make more sense to have a more diverse, spread-out population in general to more effectively protect against PTO attempts? While right now we can have citizens move to states that are in danger if we're made wise to an attempt, there's states with only a handful of voters in them that wouldn't require a big public effort to PTO.

I agree with Jaime and especially Grakulan in the following quotation:

"Jaime's remark that having few hospitals makes USA an easier target at congressional elections is valid, but I don't think anyone learns any lessons unless they pay dearly for it."

Thanks for this, as a new player it was very confusing reading the other articule, then watching people call him a peace troll, I didnt know what to think. (also helps i looked up what peace was on the wiki)

You're a troll.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you're a troll.

@Yuber, from what I read of Zoli's reply, that isn't trolling.

voted, and subscribed

Thank you, Joe, for this great article. I think both sides have a lot of good points, but it is clear that the minimal benefits of more hospitals verses fewer is far outweighed by the cost and relocation of funds.

Well Finnis it's all a matter of opinion. In my opinion, I will have to side with Jaime. I wouldn't want to risk a PTO by PEACE if it can be avoided.

Also, there's a part of the population that can only fight a limited number of times because of a lower quality hospital. Being in Alabama because I'm running for Congress, I can now see what the other part of the eUS struggles with. Since the battles in Turkey I haven't been able to get up to 100 wellness!

And about Russia, what if they do counterattack? If I'm not mistaken, it would be a 11 v. 17 battle and, with such a small population and only a Q3 defense system in Alaska, it looks like it would be quite a battle.

If I am mistaken then please PM me or comment below. My opinion is that we need a Q5 Hospital in ALL states bordering foreign fronts just in case.

We can't just throw money at our border territories, especially when more Q5 hospitals will simply dilute the population -- and therefore weaken the territories you're talking about defending.

PTOs are obviously a problem, but frankly, I would love to see PEACE try to PTO the eUS. It would be a glorious failure, and their media would simply get spammed with lulz articles.

Building and selling hospitals might be a way to put gold in our coffers, but there is a strategic drawback to that plan. By selling off our hospitals to other countries, that would increase their ability to wage war, possibly against us. It could backfire just like nearly every real-life American attempt to influence other nations, e.g. supporting the Shah of Iran and, later, Saddam Hussein only to have our weapons used against us.

hes right ya know although we really do need at least one more hospital in the central area of america (ohio kentucky)

Let me ad😛 I am somewhat sympathetic to the PTO concern, but I think the size of the USA makes a PTO of this kind very difficult (although not impossible). Also, if citizenship is REALLY coming down the pipe, we'd regret spending all that gold on Q5's to prevent a PTO.

Just an honest question, not a bais or propaganda or trolling; How will us using our gold to make Q5 hospitals help PEACE?

That's one hot dog Joe!

@Jonathan

It's hard to tell without a sort of Congressional "Balance Sheet" so we know what programs are currently having funds devoted to them. It's possible we already have this in place (like an eCongressional Oversight Committee) and I just haven't found it yet.

If our budget is already tight, then diverting funds would cause issues. I just haven't seen what our budget is like.

@jonathan from what i see it wont

eUSA! I smelt something fishy about him, the second I saw the title of his paper!

Florida and New Jersey are becoming forts. No more Q5 hospitals needed.

eUSA! Let's vote this up and kick the PEACE trolls out of our own goddamn country! Oorah!