[President] Here we go again...
Day 1,452, 14:59
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by Harvey R. Specter
This situation is really giving me a headache... I feel obligated to explain the situation, one more time, to clear some questions out. This article will act as a counter measure to cherubs article - which is filled with lies, wild accusations and distorted information where he handpicked the parts that fitted his story about Sweden oppressing Norway.
1. Explaining the National Goals
Here's an extract from a mIRC log between me and Lonestar. I shared this information with Tommy (cherub) and he chose to ignore that fact when he wrote his article, to be more precise he's claiming that I was planning on wiping out Norway entirely. Here's the extract:
Ska man ha country goals
Det är ganska onödiga smågrejer men ha något kul
typ plocka alla Norges o Danmarks regioner
That pretty much says it all.. It was just a silly joke. He's practically judging me for something I did three days before I was elected - do you even want to cooperate with Sweden? Because it is doubtfull, especially when you act out on something like that. I was never planning on taking over Norway and the goals were not set to gain more votes in the elections either.. Does it look like I was in desperate need of votes?
2. Norway vs Denmark
Part two is about a battle plan, where Denmark was supposed to attack Norway. Flitwick wrote in his article that Sweden wanted Norway to attack Denmark and he was corrected by Lonestar. First Lonestar wrote a comment, where he pointed out the wrong things Flitwick had mentioned and after that he released an article where he explained the situation in detail. I wasn't around when the plan was being discussed, but I trust my MoD's word.
Even though everything was explained by Lonestar, Tommy is disregarding the correct information, again, and he chose to walk on the same path as Flitwick did - claiming that Norway was told to attack Denmark. This to weaken Norway as they would loose their NE against Sweden.
3. Sweden wiping Norway out
That won't happen, and it is something I have been very clear on.. I wrote a section about that in my previous article, where I pointed out the importance of the NE war between Sweden and Norway. Not just for Sweden, but to Norway as well because they will get the bonus too.
Even though I was clear on that point, cherub is accusing Sweden for some ulterior motives, leaving out the truth once again..
It makes you wonder, right?
Here we have the President of Norway, complaining in public about how awful the Swedes are and at the same time he is making sure that he's burning all the bridges between Sweden and Norway down. Making it look like Sweden were the ones who started it all - and at the same time creating a picture that Norway is being toyed around with, being exploited, being lied to, backstabbed etc etc. Which isn't true because Sweden is relying on the NE bonus and I would never jeopardize that.
Signed, Jim Parsons - President of eSweden
1. Explaining the National Goals
Here's an extract from a mIRC log between me and Lonestar. I shared this information with Tommy (cherub) and he chose to ignore that fact when he wrote his article, to be more precise he's claiming that I was planning on wiping out Norway entirely. Here's the extract:
😛? Vad är det ens?
That pretty much says it all.. It was just a silly joke. He's practically judging me for something I did three days before I was elected - do you even want to cooperate with Sweden? Because it is doubtfull, especially when you act out on something like that. I was never planning on taking over Norway and the goals were not set to gain more votes in the elections either.. Does it look like I was in desperate need of votes?
2. Norway vs Denmark
Part two is about a battle plan, where Denmark was supposed to attack Norway. Flitwick wrote in his article that Sweden wanted Norway to attack Denmark and he was corrected by Lonestar. First Lonestar wrote a comment, where he pointed out the wrong things Flitwick had mentioned and after that he released an article where he explained the situation in detail. I wasn't around when the plan was being discussed, but I trust my MoD's word.
Even though everything was explained by Lonestar, Tommy is disregarding the correct information, again, and he chose to walk on the same path as Flitwick did - claiming that Norway was told to attack Denmark. This to weaken Norway as they would loose their NE against Sweden.
3. Sweden wiping Norway out
That won't happen, and it is something I have been very clear on.. I wrote a section about that in my previous article, where I pointed out the importance of the NE war between Sweden and Norway. Not just for Sweden, but to Norway as well because they will get the bonus too.
Even though I was clear on that point, cherub is accusing Sweden for some ulterior motives, leaving out the truth once again..
It makes you wonder, right?
Here we have the President of Norway, complaining in public about how awful the Swedes are and at the same time he is making sure that he's burning all the bridges between Sweden and Norway down. Making it look like Sweden were the ones who started it all - and at the same time creating a picture that Norway is being toyed around with, being exploited, being lied to, backstabbed etc etc. Which isn't true because Sweden is relying on the NE bonus and I would never jeopardize that.
Signed, Jim Parsons - President of eSweden
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Just one problem Mr. Parsons. Lonestar lied to you. He lied in the article he released yesterday and he lied in the comments to my article.
But who cares anymore. Doesn't matter what was said anyway, as it obviously never was the intention that Sweden was going to keep their end of the deal.
Voted Mr President o7
Tack för informationen Parsons, du har redan gett mer information än vad vissa presidenter gör under hela sitt mandat. xD
Lonestar did give us an ultimatum, attack Denmark or get wiped.
I was there! You where not... Flitwicks article sums it up nicely:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/a-message-to-sweden-1901258/1/20
The article also explains how Norway and Denmark offered 2 Norwegian and 1 Danish region which would have give Sweden the maximum amount of bonuses without weakening us to much.
we also offered to help you in keeping these regions, but you turned us down. Training war would have continued in Nord-Norge.
Cherub is not the one burning bridges. You are not only taking our regions one by one. (sure maybe you will save one or two for NE bonus) You were also taking them in the order that made us loose our bonuses the fastest. That is just spiteful.
Also, link to cherubs article: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-end-of-norway-thanks-to-sweden-1902291/1/20 for those that want the truth.
You obviousky want to get wiped, so you can blame Sweden for it. Otherwise we wouldn't win the MPP fights this easy... You're not even trying to defend yourselves....
Yes you got us, we want to get wiped so we can bitch about it...
Are you serious?
We got wiped once, we blamed Sweden and that one time was more than enough.
Not that I don't appreciate your keen military analysis, but do you care to comment on how we have tried diplomacy at every point in this conflict without getting anywhere because when you are done doing what is best for Sweden you do what is worst for Norway?
Didn't think so...
Everything I am being blamed for happened before I was elected, now it is clear to me that there is' t anything I can do if you're not willing to sit down and discuss what to do. And I cant really understand why you assume the worst even though everything was explained to you... As we speak we're trying to help you get Vestlandet back and that is becquse I want this war to continue - it is beneficial for alll parts.
We've fought with norway for a while and everytime you've put in some effort but recently we've been winning every battle with ease, to me that is giving up and if you put it together with cherubs article it sounds like you want to be wiped just so you can complain some more.
Nice article, Parsons. The advantage of posting these articles in public are two things:
1) It involves the citizens, enabling them to think for themself
2) Forces the participants (incl me) to think about these subjects
As for the meeting you didn't participate in, I won't bother to defend my version of the truth. Once again, I asked to settle any deals in a room holding participants from both Norway, Sweden and Denmark. After all, we were to discuss matters involving Danish and Norwegian regions. I am glad we got witnesses, since it helps me argue for my version of "the truth".
As for Norway defending itself from the attacks from Sweden, it is simply a matter of pulling out the battlelogs from http://battle-watcher.com/battles.php?country=37&filter=Filter
Notice how much damage Sweden lays down to easily win the battles in Vestlandet and Østlandet. Also how much damage Norway laid down in Nord-Norge, the region I told my forces to stand down. I rest my case (in your lap xD).
I won't blame you Parsons for not being completely informed. I could provide my logs, but you can get the same logs from Konkelbaer, Lemlin, Lonestar, Flitwick, MC, Endymionis, Taulen, etc...
Also, I would like to mention Sweden is 5 times bigger than Norway if you count solders, and more than 15 (!) times stronger than Norway measured by strength. It is neither courageous or impressive to wipe us, even if that is not the initial plan.
See you all on IRC (#escandinavia). 😁
I just received the log and I was participating in the discussion in the beginning before I left.
In that log you can see the following:
1. I asked Denmark to NE Norway but that idea got turned down because Flitwick didn't think the NE proposal would go through (because Denmark doesn't control 66% of the congress).
2. konkelbaer proposes that Norway puts Denmark as NE and cherub turns that idea down because it would cost Norway MPPs (and the money that was used to sign those MPPs)
3. I leave the discussion and you guys continue discussing on how to move forward on this matter.
4. konkelbaer leaves and Lonestar joins
5. The last thing that was proposed by Lonestar, a proposal that both Flitwick and Cherub accepted, was that Denmark would NE Norway! Everyone thought it was worth a shot.
Now tell me cherub, who is lying? Read your logs and tell me what all parts agreed on at last before the discussions ended.... Sure, it was proposed that Norway should NE Denmark but that wasn't what we agreed on!
If you can't see the difference, then I really feel sorry for you - the fact is that we chose to take that proposal back and we agreed on GOING WITH THE PLAN I SUGGESTED IN THE BEGINNING.
A plan that somebody turned down, and that somebody (rea😛 Flitwick) then chose to release an article stating that Sweden wanted Norway to NE Denmark (which is partially true) but he chose to not include the part where we all agreed on SOMETHING ELSE - he chose to deceive his readers and he took the decision not to tell the entire truth. And neither did you.
Lonestar wouldn´t lie. They don´t know who they are accusing
I've been returning every couple of hours to see what Tommy have to say after the last comment made by Jim, but I guess this is it? Did Jim nailed the truth down? Is this the end of this matter?