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Why do you write it in Arabic?

it's the official language of eIsrael.

And why are the official government articles aren't written in Arabic, "Mr. President"?

cus the saudians are complaining for we are occupaing their language.

And you usually care about what the Arabs say about your behaviour?

I mean you usually don't care about the reactions of the Arabs relating your occupation of Arab territories

the diffrence is simple, the language is arabic the land is not.

aramic was the used language if few periods of time, hebrew too, our claim to the land is clear, we are ethnic people, the jews, or the judes if you like of judea, we did'nt build all cities, but we built, the palestinians did'nt, and that is the light diffrence, as ethnic people with history here we have the rights, the palestinians are just migrators, when Jordan does'nt accept them they say they were here 9000 years, when they need oil they say half of them are egyptians and the second half is saudians, it's fact, the first arabs took the land by force from other empires and since that they are here, in jordan in syria in egypt, but the most of the palestinians came as migrators in the few hundreds of years, we don't claim the have this land cus our religion, we claim to have it cus who we are, Jewish people, can anybody doubt it we came from judea?

Oh I thought that the West Bank is very Arabic. Only the settlers are Israeli.

you are right, what al yahud can possibly have to do with a region that called yehuda? that's redicilous.

Sorry but I had to read your comment until now because your English is so bad. Usually I reply quite fast...

It's not "redicilous" mate, it's very easy to understand. The West Bank has many holy places for the Jews, but also for the Christians and Muslims. But nobody cared in Israel that the borders before 1967 didn't include those territory. Israel was founded as a secular state except a Jewish/religious one.
Now, Israel wants to occupy the West Bank because it's written in your holy book(s). But the West Bank is also mentioned in the Bible and the Quran. I don't know but I don't see Christians occupying the Bethlehem etc.

The fact is that the former Israeli attitude towards religion and militarism has changed. Now, Israel becomes more and more a religious country and it see itself always as a victim. And everything, definitely everything you say against Israel will be denied by the Israelis even if it can only be true.

you should see the diffrence, islam and christianity are religions, judahism is also ethnic people, and that ethenic people was founded in Judea and had kingdom with rich history, about the palestinians? i bet you can't find even one city they ever built in the 9000 years they claim they are here (much earlier before the birth of muhamed and the migration of islam).

Do you know the Greco-Baktrian kingdom? It was a hellenistic kingdom in the modern Afghanistan and as I've already said, it has Greek culture. There are many cities founded by the Greeks in the modern Afghanistan, but no Greek has ever said that Afghanistan should be a part of the modern Greece again. Or another example: Germans lived for hundreds of years since the dark age in Prussia. Today, Prussia is a part of Poland and Russia. No German would ever go to Danzig/Gdansk and raise the German flag.

In that regions, another people live there now. Why are there big migrations on earth? Because things change and people too. You can't come to a country where your ancestors maybe lived 2000 years ago and say "Oh, that's my land because in my holy book, we were the owners of that land. Go away and search another land for you!"
Maybe I write my own "holy" book which describes that 5000 ago, a God said that only donkeys should live in the region between Haifa and Eilat. Then the followers of that religion would deport you out of Israel and only donkeys will live there. Mate, THIS is "redicilous" (ridiculous), nothing else.

the diffrence is simple, greeks left there and came as invaders to other ethnic ppl, the jewish people is the only ethnic ppl of Judea, we never left this region, even in the 2000 'dead' years the jews lived there, what about the arabs? they came 1400 years ago, killed, forced their religion, left, and now part of migration claim to be here and faking his history, even the arabic nation jordan and egypt did'nt found palestine when they owned the 'palestinian land', palestine is just a name that romans gave to judea after the jews fought them, a name that became an idea, terrible idea that took justise history and so money lives, and the only thing he gave is hate and lies.

* many lives

Mate, there are at least 450,000 Arabs (including the Palestinians) in the world. How do you imagine the conquest of the ancient Levant/Syria Palaestina? In 630, there were half a billion Arabs on the Arab Peninsula who only waited to kill Jews? Man, many ancient people convinced to Islam and Christianism, also Jews. In the modern borders of Israel, many other people take place who were definitely no Jews. In the modern Israeli borders, there lived not only the twelve tribes of Israel. Roai, the modern Israelis aren't even one people! You speak nearly everything Ivrit, congrats! But what characteristics are you share with each other? And what characteristics does the modern Israel share with the ancient Israelites. Definitely not the language. And please give me another aspect than the religion.

Furthermore, who say that you (the Israelites) were the first settlers in the region called Palestine under the British colonial gov? Maybe there were Assyrians or Hittites before you and the ancient Israelites transfer them to another region. Maybe they lived in Palestine for five thousand years or more?

I will tell you what, we are speaking same language, living in the cities they built, keeping their religion, and keep building their country, the onyl thing the palestinians have to do with our lands is cus they pray to al qutz, what they learned from the jews, and religion does'nt give you right on the country, this lands belongs to us more it belongs to them, our religion and ethnic people were found here, most of them came 200 years ago, find me one city they built, even when the land was under arabic control they did'nt found palestine.

1. Hebrew was a sacred language, the people spoke Aramaic.
2. The Israelites built all cities, sure thing bro... Your history knowledge is so good.
3. I said NO religion as an argument!

"what they learned from the Jews"... This my dear is the definition of propaganda. In this case, it's published by the Israeli government.

"religion doesn't give you the right of the country": Your first senseful sentence in this conversation. BUT:
"the land belongs to us (...), our religion and people": That means that Jews can use religion as an argument, but nobody else? I know you have narrow views, but actually more than two other religions are founded in Palestine/Israel/the Levant.

One question mate: Do you think that you are better than anyone else? Because with this behaviour, you would make yourself a lot of enemies not only with Arabs or Arab supporters, but also with anyone else from any other country.

Just a simple question for you to think: Why do Palestinians live in Palestine/Israel/the Levant and why did they "occupy" "your" land? If your religion gives you the right to live in Israel, and as you've already said your religion is your ethnicity, why didn't your God defend you and help you to keep the land over 2000 "dark" years?


Btw, you didn't answer on the argument if there could be other people who had lived in the modern Israeli borders before the Israelites settled there

aramic was the used language if few periods of time, hebrew too, our claim to the land is clear, we are ethnic people, the jews, or the judes if you like of judea, we did'nt build all cities, but we built, the palestinians did'nt, and that is the light diffrence, as ethnic people with history here we have the rights, the palestinians are just migrators, when Jordan does'nt accept them they say they were here 9000 years, when they need oil they say half of them are egyptians and the second half is saudians, it's fact, the first arabs took the land by force from other empires and since that they are here, in jordan in syria in egypt, but the most of the palestinians came as migrators in the few hundreds of years, we don't claim the have this land cus our religion, we claim to have it cus who we are, Jewish people, can anybody doubt it we came from judea?

and no i don't belive in god, but it's obvious, we came from judea, the palestinians did'nt build here anything, and came here only in the last periods, so yes, if we are looking at 4000 years of history (even if there is no god no body can doubt jewish history) or few hundreds of years that migrators lived here, the land belongs to us.

I hate to argue with your ethnicity (=your religion), but it seems that I have to:

In the bible/torah, you can read how Moses liberate you from the slavery in Egypt. You get the Decalogue blablabla, but now it becomes interesting: The Israelites besieged the city of Jericho after coming back to Palestine. But why do they have to CONQUER their land? I think that the Israelites were the only people living in that region? It seems like the Israelites weren't the only group there in the past...

#2: Hebrew was a language that died already BC. Only the priests know the language, but they can't speak it too. Jesus spoke Aramaic. The rebels in the Jewish-Roman wars spoke Aramaic. Nobody spoke Hebrew for hundreds of years. Mate, the Talmud, the Torah and the Talgum had to be translated into Aramaic because if not, nobody would understand it. So, do you speak Aramaic? The Hebrew that you speak was created in the late 19th century. If your government says something else, they are liars.

To say that the Palestinians have no culture in Palestine is quite ludicrous. If I lived in your country for 5 years or 10, I would leave my own marks too there.

Maybe you can't read, but I often wrote the argument that there lived other ethnical groups next to the Israelites in the past. How can you say that not a few tribes were the ancestors of the Palestines. You forget that in other religions lik the Islam, you can change your religion to the Islam maybe because you don't want to be a dhimmi anymore.


My last three questions:

1. How can you prove that the Israelis really lived in Palestine so long (holy books are no arguments!!!)?

2. How do you know that the Israelites really existed?

3. How do you know that the Israelites are your ancestors?

as i told you, palestine is a name that romans gave to judea after rebellion, about your questions, israel came back from egypt and conquered jericho, 70 generation before Jacov moved to egypt cus of drough and the egyptian enslaved them, meanwhile they were'nt there other ppl caught the land.

1.2.3. Cities, Buildings and ppl same DNA signs with the old families who stayed so long, it's like you will ask how can we prove greeks were there, duzens of thousands of story were wrotten in Judea and Jews were always mentioned there (and i'm not talking only about only a book), you can find archaeological proofs everywhere.

now i will ask you a qeustions

1. how could jews appear in africa, asia and europe at same time so short after the resistence against rome?

2. how is that we are aocumented at so many ancient cultures as Judea?

3. why would someone join a religion that is so hated like judaism? jews stayed jews cus they had to.

i know some arab nations trying to doubt israelies being here, but sorry to tell you, we have too long history to do it.

Roy why is the official language of eisrael is arabic?it make no sense, barely Arabs are playing Erepublik at israel

זה לא באמת, הוא סתם ספאמר.

סבבה....מאיפה הוא הגיע בכלל?

והוא חושב שהוא הטוב ביותר. Maybe I am a spammer, but it makes me wanna puke to see such an arrogant dweeb as the eIsraeli CP

Palestinian migrators? *Immigrants, It's called immigrants !
If Palestinians are immigrants, then what are the Jews?A population which before British mandate was not even at 5% of the total population of Palestine?
How did the Jewish population rose up magically up to 75% ? Can you explain me?
Can you give me the sources which claim that Palestinians are just "migrators" *immigrants?

sorry, but after you killed them so much they stayed 5%, most of the left Israel by force 2000 years ago, the arabs in the land of Israel always changed, came and gone, we have older history, and here some proofs the palestinians are not there so very long.

1. mention me a name of cities they built
2. cultural heros?
3. what is their currency name?
4. why when 'palestine' was under control of egypt and Jordan they did'nt get their liberation?
5. how is that they woke up only after jordan and egypt lost in the war? before that the PLO wanted ONLY the land of Israel, not judea and not gaza.

Actually, the Jewish population in Palestine was a minority even before the Muslim Conquest, since the 5th century to be precise.
However, even during the Muslim Conquests, and the times of the Caliphate, the non-Muslim monotheist inhabitants ( Jews, Zoroastrians, and Christians) of the conquered lands were called "Dhimmi" (the protected people.They were allowed to practice their faith and they were given legal rights according to their faith.So your hypothesis of Muslims trying to assimilate Jews is wrong.Muslims did not kill Jews during the Caliphate, neither during the Ottoman Sultanate...

the jewish population was minority for a simple reason, the romans mourdered mass part of us after we beated two legions, and then forced us to leave, when the muslim invaded middle east, they forced jews to change their religion, look at what happened in anatloia and at the battles of jaiver.

btw i am still waiting to you to answer my five questions

1 & 2 are just history and if you do a little googling you'll find plenty of answers.

3. Because they were part of the Ottoman empire, so their currency was the same as the Ottoman currency. They got their own currency in 1927. Which in case you can't count, is 19 years before you got yours. And if you're gonna tell me you had your currency 2000 years ago, I'd like to remind you that the Canaanites/Phoenicians controlled most of what is now known as Palestine/Israel long before the Jews migrated there. So yea, my ancestors beat you to getting a currency there too.

4. Because you can't control a country when it is split in half by an enemy country. (See: Pakistan & Bangladesh. Gaza in 2006/2007, etc...) If Egypt and Jordan had tried to establish a Palestinian government in their territories 60 years ago the government would have failed simply because they literally can't even see each other without having to go through another nation first. Which is the same reason the current government is failing.

5. The L in PLO stands for LIBERATION. They didn't view the land controlled by Egypt and Jordan as occupied land because Egypt and Jordan were allies of the Palestinians, so they didn't need to liberate it.

1.2. just me it
3. so they were here only since the ottoman occupation? abu mazen said 9000 years
4. Jordan and Egypt were ally, nowdays egypt threats israel cus of palestine, maybe egypt is just failing country that has nothing to offer the ppl but hate? maybe there is no such a thing like palestine? 🙂
5. if they were their ally they should have reconise them and give them liberation, Jordan killed more palestinians then israel did, and egypt refused to get gaza strip back for the simple reason - it's poor population, they don't give a shit of them.

in summarize - you had'nt even one good answer.

P.S before 1967 judea and samaria were reconised as israeli land under Jordan occupaton.

3. No, they were there for centuries or millinia before that, but they didn't have their own independent nation, they were simply part of another empire, like literally 90% of the world's population. If you don't think that gives them the right to the land then I guess none of the nations that formed after WWI actually had any claim to their land.

4. You're just trolling so I'm just gonna skip that

5. Read my response to #4 in my previous post.
As for the last part, Egypt isn't required to take Gaza as part of its territory. And if they take it now, people will just say that Palestine doesn't need to exist since the Palestinians can just be absorbed by neighboring nations and cite Gaza as an example. THAT's why Egypt doesn't take Gaza, not because they're poor. Its population is poor because of the occupation and blockade, not because there's an inherent flaw with Gaza. If they were granted free trade rights they would be just as rich as the average Egyptian (which isn't saying much) so that's just a childish argument used by people like yourself who either don't wanna see the reality of the situation or who are just lying to people who don't. Unfortunately for you, I don't fit into either category.

3. learn about nationalism, they have nothing in common, imagine if in WWII the french were taken and come back after the war, it would be fair to you if the africans migrator to france will get the country instead of them.

4. I am serious, gave you point to view, maybe they are not allies.

5. i talk about your claim to be allies, Jordan is the worst enemy of the palestinian, it kills with tanks any palestinian who dares to protest and the Jordan rule there is the minority and the palestinians are the majority, Why would'nt they give the palestinians a country in Judea and Samaria when they ruled it? the answer is simple, 'the palestinian people' was'snt invented yet, they were just arabs, and when they lost judea and samaria they started suppruting the invention of palestine, about egypt, they refused to get the strip before the idea became common, before that, yasser and his friends were just terrorists, they did'nt want this population and that's why they left the strip almost empty in 1967.

i still waiting for answers to questions 1 and 2, please share with me parts of the great palestinian History.

3. No. It would be fair to me if, after the French lost the war, they were KICKED OUT, then the African immigrants settled EMPTY land, and developed it into what it is now. Then yes, they do have just as good a claim to the land as the French who used to live there 2000 years ago.
The Arabs didn't kick the Jews out, they settled EMPTY land. The Jews were kicked out by the Romans not the Arabs. Go settle Rome or something.
idk where my ancestors were 2000 years ago but according to your logic, I have a right to the land they lived in. That's stupid.
I love how you ignored the part about the Canaanites and Phoenicians btw.

4 & 5 you're just trolling so I'm gonna skip those.

As for the "Great Palestinian History", you could always google "history of Islam" and you'll get an idea.

The difference between the Jews and Arabs is that when we settled the land, we built it. When you returned you destroyed it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_towns_and_villages_depopulated_during_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus

4 and 5 is not a trolling and you know it, you should be mature to answer, jews were kicked by romans 2000 years ago after we were the peope that rules this land, since it jews lived in their close communities and came back, no body wanted to join cus it was the most hated and murdered people in the world, you gave me a list of palestinian cities and town, which most of them built by jews and others, even their capital ramallah built by jordan, find me cities built by palestinians, or maybe they just were'nt here enough time to do it? 🙂

Roai: Just learn the REAL history at first, not what the Israeli gov says what is true, before you argue incorrectly

lol, unlikely your country israel is democratic country, people here are not beheaded for now obeying sharia 🙂

so, if you have nothing to answer back, shut up.

Good Job Wars and Hassan and AmmRi, Lord knows I don't have the patience to deal with such a dummy.

@ RoaiTG, It's PALESTINE whether your @$$ likes it or not. Keep lying to yourself sucker.

yet they had no claim, well done? let's see both side

Israel - the Jewish people is the ethnic people founded in the land of Judea, 4000 years of history, countless proofs for our being here, forced to leave by romans and every empire in the acnicent world that was close to middle east mentioned us, romans changed the name to palestine cus of reballion.

Palestine - group of arabs that was thrown away by jordan and egypt, want to be a country but doing terror, claim to be here 9000 years.

i start beliving there really is propaganda in the lovely atheist enlightened modern nation of saudia arabia.

So according to your theory they should have the land of the ingenious Arabs (Palestinians) because Jews resided there 4000 thousands of years ago? In that case, France belongs to Rome, because 3,000 years ago, the Romans were in France. Does every country that occupies another country [have a right to it]? Palestine is the country of the Palestinians, who have lived there since the day God created it. If every country belonged to the people who entered it, no country in the world would belong to its people. Your thesis is really bs.

Terror? Why is it terror? they are resisting an extreme brutal opposition force with not even 1 tank, plane or navel ship. Look at the facts and tell me who is the bully. Did you expect israeli's will occupy, harass, massively murder, siege and imprison a people with no backlash response whatsoever? That's pretty dumb on your part then.