[PEACE GC] Response to some accusations
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by Arthk
Hello citizens of the New World
In the last days the Global Community was accused by some people of taking sides in the resistance war that took place in Burgenland some days ago. We would like to state that these accusations are completely false and dishonest.
The resistance war in Burgenland had no PEACE intervention, it was started by an independent Hungarian and only independent fighters fought for resistance. There was no PEACE military operation there and no one sent troops in the name of PEACE alliance.
This topic may be confusing for many of you, but just to clear up the facts: PEACE issued its opinion some days ago regarding the region Burgenland, saying that PEACE is in favor of the peaceful return of this region to its original owner: The PEACE member Austria. We were willing to help on the diplomacy with the best of the intentions.
But the fact is that we can't stop individual citizens from starting resistance wars and fighting on them. It's something that PEACE can't (and shouldn't) control. The resistance war was won due to individual fighters (mainly Hungarians) and that it's out of our reach.
Just to make this clear: PEACE GC did NOT send any military or interfered in that resistance war in any way
We acknowledge that the situation is delicate and we respect all the opinions, we just refuse to be accused of something we didn't do and be used as a scapegoat for problems that we didn't cause.
And for those accuse us blindly and now threaten to disturb other PEACE nations that have nothing to do with this issue we'd like to state that PEACE GC won't stand up for this and will be taken any of those moves as an offense against the Alliance.
We understand that the ones that threaten to do that are individual persons and don't represent any country or whatsoever, so if those threats are fulfilled we will be blaming those independent citizens only and we will not blame any institution that has nothing to do with those actions (like the ones that accuse PEACE do).
And you can be sure that we won't be kind if PEACE nations that have nothing to do with this are harmed in any way, let this be a clear warning for those who are thinking of doing that.
Yours Sincerely,
-Arthk
PEACE GC Secretary General
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Excellent! People need to stop making baseless accusations in this game
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"And you can be sure that we won't be kind if PEACE nations that have nothing to do with this are harmed in any way, let this be a clear warning for those who are thinking of doing that."
Harmed like they harm the people they keep enslaved?
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IMPERIALIST!!!!
A ver si os largáis a casita de una vez, que sois más pesados que una vaca en brazos jodíos
Enjoy roleplaying, but this is not a fantasy game you spanish emos
GO HOME!!!!!
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Voted.
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SO interesting.
NOT.
PEACE at home. And that's all.
Arthk, I've told you in private before that by issuing that press release when the RW was already on you took sides. Even if you didn't want to...
I miss chukcha ;_;
go home
Why austria more importatnt than Hungary? Why? Can peace won the war without hungary but with austria?
Hungary, or even Indonesia, are not more important than Austria in PEACEgc, all countries are equally important, deal w/ it.
Voted.
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"But the fact is that we can't stop individual citizens from starting resistance wars and fighting on them. It's something that PEACE can't (and shouldn't) control. The resistance war was won due to individual fighters (mainly Hungarians) and that it's out of our reach."
Exactly the same argument Feherlo, Kampec and Quicksilver used after their party A KARD lost the debate in the Hungarian congress regarding Burgenland. So it's easy to get an "individual", and sacrify him, telling we have nothing to do with it but it's more than a shame. At least you should admit what you have done and don't hide behind "individuals" who you financed and gave military aid.
"And you can be sure that we won't be kind if PEACE nations that have nothing to do with this are harmed in any way, let this be a clear warning for those who are thinking of doing that."
You had nothing to do with Hungarian inner affairs, still you interfered and harmed the country. So what's your problem with that? I gave a clear warning, too - do not interfere here! - not your business.
LWT2009 is an international movement, every person and nation is free to join. What we are doing? Liberating small oppressed nations who can't defend themselves from imperialism. Sounds familiar? I doubt that. Let me refresh your memory, that was the main idea behind PEACE. You developed into just an empty name without any ideals. You throw them away.
PEACE anywhere but not in Hungarian inner affairs!
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nileve5 - it's not about either us or they. it's all of us...
Hungary has been betrayed 🙁
Without an alliance Hungary would loose. This game is allegedly a society game. Why shouldn't we take care of our allies?! I hope, the responsible Hungarians will be multiplied, the selfish ones will disappear.
Mikrobi, exactly. An alliance. Including allies.
Not random leaders who interfere where they shouldn't and act _against_ a country of the "alliance"
>So it's easy to get an "individual", and sacrify him, telling we have nothing to do with it but it's more than a shame. At least you should admit what you have done and don't hide behind "individuals" who you financed and gave military aid.
Well Shaok, keep up with the false accusations. We didn't send anyone there, we have done NOTHING in that resistance war. You're throwing out those accusations so that you have something to blame PEACE about.
Hide behind individuals ? For gods sake, we had no interest on that resistance war, it had nothing to do with PEACE. It was an independent move, deal with it! Stop this nonsense for Dio's sake!
>You had nothing to do with Hungarian inner affairs, still you interfered and harmed the country.
Read the damn article dude ! What part of "we didn't interfere in any way in that resistance war" you didn't get?
>So what's your problem with that? I gave a clear warning, too - do not interfere here! - not your business.
You gave a warning to the people and the institution that had NOTHING to do with this, that's the problem! Face it! You're just searching for a scapegoat!
>LWT2009 is an international movement, every person and nation is free to join. What we are doing? Liberating small oppressed nations who can't defend themselves from imperialism
Yes, tell that to the Belgium people that feel safe inside UNL, and that voted in favor of the merge. You're not freeing anyone, you're pissing off PEACE nations just because you falsely claim that PEACE interfered in Burgenland. Try to be honest with yourself once in a while please.
And like I said, if that "LWT2009 movement" interferes for no valuable reason in any PEACE nation's inner affairs then we'll have someone to blame with clear and justified reasons. Not like your lame attempts of disinformation.
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PEACE = enemy of the democracy, enemy of Hungary
Shaok,congratulation!
You are the biggest lier of the eWorld. Grimm, the famous story-teller is only a weak beginner according to you.
Please tell us more stories, we are for lack of amusement.
Shaok you are a sausage.
Csokolanyi Edomer: Fogd be, a te kibaszott polgári kezdeményezésed miatt ilyen szar a belpolitika helyzet, ezért van kettészakadóban Magyarország, azért haragszik ránk a písz és azért vetted el ezrek kedvét a játéktól. A helyedben elásnám magam jó mélyre vagy legalábbis be fognám a pofám és nem még mást szidnék.
nileve5:
Én a helyedbe inkább beiratkoznék egy illemtan órára. Ott biztos hasznosabban töltenéd az időt, mint itt, ahol nem találod a helyed.
Seriously, noone in PEACE knew that shit will hit the fan in Hungary that bad because of a seemingly unimportant region? It was very well known beforehand. Now one of the strongest member of PEACE is in near civil war situation. Who know how strong the army, the elit or the population now in this situation.
Your job as a politician is to defuse these kind of situations. Instead of that you hide behind an "individual's" actions. BTW yes you can do against a non-agreed RW, you can advise PEACE member armies to fight GREEN as it happened in Ukraine not long ago. Oh that couldn't happen because the army's control was in the hand's of those who wanted to give it back meanwhile the congress's control was in the hands of those who didn't. That's why the whole thing happened on election day, next day everything would be different.
As a political organisation PEACE failed miserably.
"Csokolanyi Edomer 8 minutes ago
Shaok,congratulation!
You are the biggest lier of the eWorld. Grimm, the famous story-teller is only a weak beginner according to you.
Please tell us more stories, we are for lack of amusement."
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"Burgenland
started by Csokolanyi Edomer"
Do I have to say more? Here you have your individual.
Csokolanyi Edomer: Nem vagy a helyemben, nem kértem tanácsot sem. És megvan a helyem, az olyan emberek ellen vagyok, mint pl. te.
Neked meg egy kis mások és a kongresszus véleményének tiszteletben tartása órákat kéne venned, és nem ártana az sem ha saját hazád jobban szeretnéd, mint egy olyan országot, melyben olyan lakosok sincsenek, amilyen ország.
Dude, once again, all that you said here is answered in the same article you're commenting in.
PEACE issued their opinion about a DIPLOMATIC resolution, not by a resistance war!
We didn't start it, we didn't fight on it, we didn't interfere at all !
and what the hell are you saying about financing tanks ? You gotta be kidding me, no one got payed for anything here !
The way you lie and misinform is amazing (and shameless if you ask me).
Honestly, get some common sense here and think clearly. You're the ones waging war and rage against PEACE for no valuable reasons, not the other way around.
Nem mernek lerohanni, MPP-vel se. Ha igen TO-zuk vagy visszavonulunk mindenből és MPP-k eltüntek és utáána jöhet újra a TO vagy az RW.
"We didn't start it, we didn't fight on it, we didn't interfere at all !"
Now let's be serious. In no way? Right? Forget about serious...I can't ake someone serious who is denying fact such as articles written in the same newspaper.
"and what the hell are you saying about financing tanks"
Well samu126 was very happy on the hungarian chat that day that he could fulltank and was financed.
Arthk, admit it. Correct the failure you have done. And we can talk after that about future things but not this way. Your choice, as it was before that too - I'm only reacting and will react on every agression against my homecountry and I don't care from where it comes.
One more:
You can be reasonable and show that you value eHungary and respect it's inner affairs and sovereignity like a good ally
or
You can go ahead with your current policy and lose everything.
Again, it's your choice.
Propaganda....yawn...
"Hungary, or even Indonesia, are not more important than Austria in PEACEgc, all countries are equally important, deal w/ it."
Hum... yes, it has to be so...
Lyne Faynel, now turn that sentence aroun😛
"Austria is not more important than Hungary in PEACEgc, all countries are equally important, deal w/ it."
Hum...yes, it should have been so...
Well, if samu126 was financed it wasn't from PEACE from PEACE funds for sure.
Denying what facts ? The facts that PEACE tried a diplomatic solution and now you're blaming PEACE for something we haven't done ?
I repeat: We did not interfere in the resistance war neither have we started.
Deal with it.
You're throwing out lies and false accusations, just please, cut the crap once and for all.
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Arthk, I'd call releasing an article right in the middle of the RW stating that according to PEACE Burgenland should be returned (even if through diplomatic negotiations and not a revolt) as interfering. You could have waited with it till the end of the battle if it was still actual by then...
Arthk:
"I repeat: We did not interfere in the resistance war neither have we started."
Bill Clinton:
"I did not have sex with this woman"
It doesn't depends on how much you repeat something it depends on what you have done.
xstr,
We knew what we risked and we decided to act the way we thought and still think is right. That was the precise point of the last sentence of the article about Burgenland. You can do politics as much as you want but, I personally, prefer to stick to the path I think is right.
Shaok,
PEACE GC does not sponsor any tanks. The organization itself does not hold any money and you know that. You were part of PEACE at one point and you should remember how operations are funded. Money comes from countries or personal wealth of certain people. So, your claims that PEACE has funded tanks is absolute nonsense.
Nagyzee, writing an article is not equal to sending troops there, which is what Shaok is trying to convince everyone. We left the battle on the conscience of the people fighting.
One more thing for Shaok:
Claiming that Austria is more important than Hungary is plain ridiculous. If that were the case, it would have been Austria holding regions in Canada, don't you think? PEACE is trying to find a fair solution to problems in its alliance, even if that means someone feels hurt about it.
"We knew what we risked and we decided to act the way we thought and still think is right."
Thanks for admitting it.
Now you can't come with "we did not interfere" because I will ask than how the hell did you risk anything in this case?