[PCP] Confusion in the ranks
TimmyTango
Hello comrades.
As many of you will be aware, the Party President elections have just taken place, and the first order of business, I would like to congratulate all of you who have taken the leads fairly, of your respective parties.
This PP election period however, has found the People's Communist Party in a slight predicament. For months maybe even years, Keithunder has been the glue that kept the PCP from falling from the face of eRepublik, he has been our caretaker and our light in the darkness. This month we expected nothing different than an unopposed leadership having discussed the PP election within the PCP discord, as are all of the parties decisions, it had been decided the Keithunder continue the role.
It had then come as a shock, that come election day Zaphod had mysteriously entered the fray, gaining votes from seemingly nowhere having no contact with any active member of the party. This confusion stems from the party constitution to do with Party Presidents of the PCP.
4.2 The PCP chooses its leader through a common consensus about who should be the next leader. The PCP believes competition weakens us through division, rather than through unity.
4.3 The PCP leader is discussed and elected in the forum (discord), and thus PCP members should make it their primary aim to join the forum (discord) as soon as possible. This is due to the constant threat of Political Take Over.
Little damage can be done, save nominating himself for Country President (Which was done without consent of the members of the party) and maybe a bit of grief here and there.
4.1 The PCP does not believe in a single leader, but rather a spokesperson, through whom the entire experience and collected knowledge of the PCP is expressed.
It is with that that the People's Communist Party, must announce that Keithunder is the official Spokesperson (Party President) for this month. Any and all official communication to do with the People's Communist Party should be directed towards him.
Rest assured, we hope to get through this little hiccup as fast and easy as possible.
Comrade TimmyTango
Comments
Keithunder got just 4 votes, lol. That makes this article crap...
I guess bamber, you and him are 3/4
And I wonder where the 6 votes Zaphod came from. I've been told none were from the active player base of the PCP that were online during election day. All of which were accounted for as either unable to vote, or voted for Keithunder.
4 votes...
The number of votes in the PCP for PP has for sometime been around the 4 mark, so that also raises the question, where did Zaphods 6 votes come from.
neo-Nazis
spicy
I suspect that Zaphod voted for himself for starters....
Feel free to blame a UKPP / DC conspiracy as taking over such a political powerhouse is obviously a key part of secret shenanigans to take over the eUK and enable Wayne to steal the treasury....
This must be Keith Thunders 2nd account
You know a lot more about multi accounts than I do, but in this you are incorrect as you well know
And after all the nice things I have said about you!
Looks like more dodgy UKPP sponsored shenanigans. What's the betting UKPP will back Zaphod for CP or PCP will support a UKPP candidate irrespective of the wishes of its members?
Well zaphod has already nominated himself for CP without consulting PCP members.
lol
What use we have from PCP support? 😃 And we actually want Roachford to become CP 😃
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nom roachford pls
The pressure is real
He needs to join UKPP in order for is to do that Rob. We've discussed it, well happily take Roachford off your hands...
He does? Hmm... strange how shiny buttons work nowadays 😉
Game mechanically, yes unless he has already been nom'd by UKRP already. But that does not change the fact he should be in UKPP. He's defo moar one of us than he is a UKRPer!
I've already nom'd him in UKRP. I'm keeping him.
This is not negotiable.
Would have thought you would be blaming DC seeing as Zaphod is a member of that MU...
I refute all allegations made against my character.
"4.3 The PCP leader is discussed and elected in the forum (discord), and thus PCP members should make it their primary aim to join the forum (discord) as soon as possible. This is due to the constant threat of Political Take Over."
And yet it gets taken anyway. Insanely fleshed out procedure like this is totally worthless for a party as small as PCP. For you guys a big weird constitution is probably more counter-productive than anything. You can't save yourself from PTO by avoiding vote splitting when you only get 4 votes normally in the first place. You could get PTO'd by UKRP's congressmen, man.
Zaphod's election probably is partially a wayne meme, but he has ran the party "seriously" a good few times in the now-kinda-distant-ish past before. There's a good chance you'll probably live.
The PCP Constitution and procedure has been in place for quite some time. Granted with the little vote count we have it makes it easy for situations like this to arise, but just that tiny bit more difficult than if we split our votes. As stated in the article there's little he can actually do, the active members of the PCP aren't just going to stop doing things just because he puts himself up for CP. We will still work with other parties.
Exactly where in the game rules is there any validity in the PCP constitution?
The rules are simple the person with the most votes wins, it's called democracy.
I see yet another attempt to use "meta" to preserve the status quo for a minority.
"but just that tiny bit more difficult than if we split our votes"
It literally took 6 people lmao
How does one go about destroying a party? If PCP are strong enough they will survive, if they are weak they will fall... Life is nasty
We've had two CPs elected after coming back from the dead after a long period, one of whom was backed by PCP.
It comes as no surprise that the zombie apocalypse is now happening at the party level also.
Zap is as true a DCPer as any of you!
Viva la zap
Communists are dumb.
TBH, it could be that PCP regulars wanted a change of direction and now they too afraid to admit they voted for Z.
I personally have not blamed any single entity, nor have I named any other individuals besides Zaphod himself. I do not know who the votes came from, they may very well be from the party itself, but it is highly unlikely. What's done, is done, we're not kicking and crying, we are moving forward, which is what this article is about, informing the citizens of the eUK that any actions arising from the PP of the PCP do not represent the party as a whole.
"we're not kicking and crying"
Surely it's what this article is all about.
If you don't like the party leadership join another party or create your own and I'll give you a name for free, how about "The anti democracy grumblers"
Anybody can run for PP, the constitution merely states we do it as a group beforehand. It is fairly obvious some people are just having a top kek at the expense of others, wouldn't expect anything less on the internet. And no, this article is merely stating that all active members or the PCP are not behind the current PP, and will still be lead by Kim Jong-Keit.. I mean Keithunder.
Constitution? No validaty at all, nothing in the game mechanics about constitutions.
The active members voted for a new leader, if your little cabal of inactives don't like it then become active. You have a month to find a candidate to stand, surely it's something that you can manage. Then again you can stay inactive and moan about the next PP the active members elect.
The active members did not vote for the current PP at all, at no point did any of us get any kind of communication from Zaphod, but for some reason he just messages everyone else that we can't even get into contact with?
Isn't it time you accepted the fact that your "active members " are a minority. A democratic vote happened and the majority voted for Zaphod.
As communists I guess you have no time for democracy so why don't you go the whole hog and set one of your cosy little politburo up as dictator? Or is it that if you tried the other eUK MUs would defeat your attempt
I will not agree that the recent PP election was democratic, until the votes have been accounted for. Zaphod somehow manages to win without any communication to anyone within the party, and people just put it down to people within the party, who haven't voted at all for the previous months, as the normal vote count has been 4 - 5 for quite some time, and he manages to somehow get 6 on top of the 4 votes for Keithunder. It's obvious that there was at least a tiny bit of suspicious activity, we've come to terms and are dealing with it. Kek is over.
Zap is old skool PCP, who is to say that his old commies pals voted for him. If I was retarded enough to be a commie then I wouldn't bother voting in PCP until a true leader emerged either. Maybe that happened...
Old skool PCP, yet ran for PP for the UKPP just last month.
ikr, the little scamp tried to PTO us. Luckily, we are organised and countered it by voting Leo. We even had messages set up to direct votes. This is what a real party does...
http://prntscr.com/gbqp8m
"any actions arising from the PP of the PCP do not represent the party as a whole"
Democracy says otherwise
I hate to say it and i'm gonna sound like an asshole but fuck it:
Maybe people should have taken me seriously when I said the smaller parties should merge with ESO or face bullshit when the trolls get bored.
History will always repeat itself and easy PTO targets will get taken just because they have a long standing name.
ESO get the bullet too...
Yeah, a long time ago when there was actually activity in the eUK and it was more of a challenge. That was a feat rather than a troll.
I hate that it happened but I can't help but be impressed, unlike this which is just child's play.
The scale is pretty much the same. Yeah it's less votes to win an election, but you also has less people to call on to provide you with a vote. In my opinion it's harder for a PTOer nowadays to take a Top 5. Dead parties such as ESO and PCP have always been easy and always will be. 10 votes is a challenge for a would be PrOer nowadays. My advice would be get a regular 10 votes in elections otherwise you'll always be at risk 😉
Holy shit Wayne, we agree on something 😛
Smaller parties should almost certainly either merge together or each individually merge with a top 5 party. Game mechanics wise there's very few things you can do differently, so priding yourself on a somehow unique ideology as the PCP does is basically pointless.