拍马屁/Pai Ma Pi
Zhou San
What is 拍马屁? In pinyin it is: pai ma pi. Literally, it means "slap horse butt". Pai ma pi is used exactly the same as "kissing someone's butt", flatter, fawn on, etc.
The reason I bring this up is the large increase in temporary bans; myself included. lol as Songum and myself found out, saying things about "goons" in general or the Chinese government is somehow construed as racism in this game, and the ridiculousness of this fact is probably the only thing that myself and Songum, and others, can agree on.
Also we must be the most polarized eCountry in eRep, which is not always bad but its also not always good.
So I propose 3 things and you can accept one or all or none (hopefully not none):
1) Lets tone down the personal attacks. The most recent example is the article bashing Flem. Sure his citizen is not here but he provides jobs for dozens of eChinese. The retort to his articles that he is not here is crap and any real retort should be based on the content of his article. Also, as a much less successful businessman, for example, the tax rate of oil or grain still does matter to me, as well as other company owners, while the common citizen couldn't care less. So even if some of his articles mean nothing to you, they mean something to others. Also, how many other "foreign" GMs spend as much time as him analizing the market, posting in the media and trying to help our developing country? But to the point, what is the point of that article?
On the other side, my article calling goons a bunch of "parent dependent adults" (which is somehow racist), was also not constructive, and I won't do it again.
But its not just the articles its also the comments. If myself, Songum and KJR (which I don't know if it was said but I'm sure is Songum) can be banned for our "racist"-non-racist articles, everyone better watch what you say in the comments since those can be reported too. Let's try to keep our comments constructive. You can disagree with someone without flaming, and in some cases, actually being racist.
2) RL issues. Saying that eRep is not RL but using sensitive RL topics in an eRep way is just semantics and trolling. This includes, but is not limited to the recent Taiwan, Tibet, HK fiasco to ripping on RL China/Government to some recent anti-Korean comments, to calling people immature Americans. In this game we are all eChinese.
In EREP, it is technically possible (according to some posts by the admins in reference to adding more stars to the American flag awhile back), to change things. If Juche completely dominated eChina, a name change is not impossible, not that I wouldn't go down without a fight 🙂
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On the other hand, in this imperfect RL world, some RL issues DO matter. If you want to pursue a Pan-Korean type movement then fine, do your thing. But I have have two "sub"-requests: a) RL Chinese do play this game and making fun of their language is not a good thing, especially since they don't tell you to stop using English; and b) please please change your party logo please. The minute chance that an RL official sees that and its over, and I really don't want to play using a proxy. And while I am open minded (although I lean towards the China side after some research), I could see a new player from China actually reporting it to authorities and it could screw those of us actually living in China.
In short, same as before, but stop the trolling (rather than the flaming).
3) Back to the article title. I suggest we all take a step back for a day or two (then we can go for the throats again if we so desire) and "slap the horse butt" to each other (sounds dirty doesn't it?). Even though we are always disagreeing and ripping on each other, trolling, flaming etc, I am sure we can all say something nice about the opposite group or an individual. So I suggest that everyone who reads this please leave a nice comment. Of course, since its my suggestion, I will begin,
I think most of the "goons" have a good sense of humour. While often hidden in a negative comment (sorry to bring a negative into a positive comment), some of their comments hit the nail on the head. As a foreigner living in China (I am a Canadian who has been living in China for almost 5 of the last 7 years), I can say, from a Western point of view, funny stuff happens here all the time. lol and I have seen stuff happen that made me laugh and then read or remembered "goon" comments or articles that said the exact same thing and it just makes me laugh even harder. I've actually laughed on the street and had people look at me: which makes me laugh more 🙂
So anyways, we can agree to disagree. But let's keep it civil. We are all eChinese/eWest-Koreans depending on the side you take; we all have a vested interest in this eCountry. So lets work together and kick Germany's butt (country above us in the rankings...but not for long if we can work together). In short, politics is politics but we are all countrymates.
(and yes I love using brackets 😛
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FUN!
Let me be the first to say: THANK YOU.
Thank you for your warm and friendly surrender speech. It is with great humility that I accept your words and deliver the following terms:
1: Our Party logo is our party logo because JucheBot told us to make it so. Thus it will not change.
2: 'Painful RL issues' are only a problem if you treat them as RL issues, which in eRep, you cannot. Thus it is not a problem to fight for eTibet liberation unless you are braking thwe law, which warents a ban.
3: We are glad you like us. Join our party and submit to the Truth of Juche to show your newly expressed support.
4: We accept your apologies for your articles and pointless attempts to get us all banned.
5: I like things in fives.
It is good to see that you share our love of brackets and that you accept that the future of eWest Korea lies with us.
0 - Not surrendereing, think of it as a 2 day reprieve
1 - In all serious I hope your party can reconsider. This is obviously trolling and it actually risks some RL consequences. You can continue the role play in public but I hope you guys can consider this in private. besides, the guy with the book was cooler.
2 - Not that big an issue per say if its as you say. but it seems your party purposely(trolling) does it just to get the rest riled up. Not as big imo as #1
3 - I never said I hated you. I do disagree with the policies you put forward. but that is policy, not you. I have trolled once or twice before, but nothing personal. I will always stand against your party and your policies unless you change, but, for the most part, I have nothing against you or your party mates in general
4 - I do apologize for a pointless article. But in all honesty, I never reported you for anything. Although I am debating reporting the party logo (but that is an RL issue, not an eRep issue)
5 - Another example of humour 🙂 But I give it a 6...you can do better
What exactly are these policies you oppose? Because the way I see it, the country was much more stable under Juche Box.
pai ma pi means saying good words to make someone really "happy", for example:
ooooo, you're so smart
woooowwww!! You're cool!
SHE'S TOO BEAUTIFUL!!!!!
Looks like you just got SERVED!
Ans also you can't 'report' our logo or else we will report your party names for being too similar to America's in RL. They must instead be named after cartoon characters like Bender's Party or Scooby-Doo's Party. Republican and Democratic as names might get us banned in North Korea!
Reported for racism.
GLORIOUS LEADER FOR PRESIDENT
The swastika and yin yang symbols have a distinguished , 5000 year history. The yin and yang symbol reminds us that the universe is meant to be in balance and to strive for balance in all of our daily lives; the noble swastika is a symbol of the growth of the universe, and reminds us that we must always seek to grow into our place within the universe.
To speak of them in such terms, to say they are insulting to you for whatever reason, it is the same as if I had insulted Christianity , because the christian symbol of a cross was once a tool of torture and execution, this is true.
I will protest your slandering of these symbols in the strongest terms and I will always report your crude language against them. To speak in such a way of these symbols , it is the same as if you had taken a sledgehammer to the statue of the enlightened one, or set fire to a temple.
It is hate speech! Do not let me catch you doing saying these things again!
Quite an funny reading...
Can't believe you worry about them making fun of our language... For a RL Chinese, they are no more than a baby level Chinese speaker. Typing few characters makes no harm at all, but shows how naive they are.
By the way, "拍马屁" may not be the best expression here describing the relationship between JBP and us. I can say, no single RL Chinese player will ever do this to JBP fellows, unless they stop quoting RL issues. The right one, I think, could be a normal one like "声讨", or a civilized one like "口诛笔伐", or a more civilized one, which I mostly prefer, "问候你全家".
Naive? Naive is accepting what ever "facts" and "history" you are spoon fed by your government as truth.
Are you seriously protesting our party logo? Are you really so ignorant that you know nothing about the deep cultural and historical meaning behind the swastika in China? What are you 12? Honestly I sometimes doubt there are any real eChinese in this game at all. Every member of the PRP I have talked to have exhibited a total lack of understanding of even the most basic religious or cultural background of China much less West Korea.
I find it funny that the man designated as minister of culture was completely unaware of Buddhism or Hinduism.
Furthermore the Taijitu is a most sacred religious symbol. The fact that you even suggest removing it from our logo insults me as a Taoist and as a Juche. I hope you are ashamed sir.
Furthermore as the eChinese are so keen with their language I will teach you a phrase in my language.
По хооы.
It roughly translates to "We don't give a damn."
And this is how we feel about your opinion.
You can tell your friends you have a fun Russian phrase now. 😃
Heil Stalin-Chan!
Naive is when you think you know everything about a culture and its people but you clearly don't have a clue.
Immature is when you think people will respect you for talking down at others who speak evenly to you, but it's quite the opposite.
Naive is thinking we don't have a clue about Chinese culture based on what we say here.
Immature is expecting us to give a damn whether you respect us or not.
The fact is my dialogue with the PRP has only shown me that it's members have even less regard for eChina's history and culture than we do. It seems like PRP only cares about using Goons as a scapegoat for their problems and keeping West Korea in their control.
Your comeback doesn't fly, Songun. The first one is your failing, not mine. The second one is not immature, it's naive. For that you have my pity.
How is the second one naive? naivety has nothing to do with respect. Come back to us when you have a better grasp on the english language.
Furthermore his first point still stands, because it is naive to assume someone knows nothing when you have very little interaction with us. I have spoken to members of your party personally on a one on one basis. What proof do you have that we don't understand your culture?
I would suggest you back down now because its obvious that you don't understand the meaning of either of those words judging by what you have said so far.
All he knows is what 'Pee in Ma Pie' means.
I would have thought that the correct verb there would be “打”
Eh, live and learn.
West Korea will never be civilized until the "chinese" admit the validity of goon claims.
The only thing civilized about you people died with Kim Jong Rad.
Pyroelectricity, I'm 100 percent sure the correct verb is "get out."
Only Nixon could go to West Korea, but Pyro needs to just go.
滚出去
马屁拍的 ... pia~pia~~ 的 ... 😃
a) RL Chinese do play this game and making fun of their language is not a good thing, especially since they don't tell you to stop using English; and b) please please change your party logo please. The minute chance that an RL official sees that and its over, and I really don't want to play using a proxy. And while I am open minded (although I lean towards the China side after some research), I could see a new player from China actually reporting it to authorities and it could screw those of us actually living in China.
a) of course you don't tell us to stop using English; even heathens know it is God's language
b) it is beautiful that you fear your government blocking eRepublik yet you still "lean towards the China side after some research" - your government has your best interests at heart and should they block eRepublik, it is for your own good
I want to point out that Juche Box Party was in control and leading us to prosperity until they attempted to overthrow Snayke. Before that they were respected and even liked by people.
And I have no problem with the Juche logo. Because 1) yin-Yang sign is CHinese and 2)The Swastika is actually based on a Japanese Wind Symbol. The irony there should be obvious.
And finally I want to comment that improving relationships between the fractured China is always supported by me and I hope Juche Box party would at least consider it.
Well I guess the article accomplished the opposite of what I hoped...oh well I tried.
And I'm not protesting the backwards swastika or the yin yang... I am protesting the fact that it is used as a logo by a certain group banned in RL China. and whether you agree or disagree, if seen, could get the game banned in China
So go complain to the RL group to stop stealing JucheBox's symbol.
Unless you are too afraid to go talk to them because Mao might kill you in your sleep.