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[ONE]Official statement about eTurkey issue

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First of all I did not decide to write this article because of any demand from any side, but because I have strong feeling that not everyone is well informed about last happenings and because of that actions and opinions of players involved could be conditioned.

Last days problems started when MC of ONE, angeldav, gave a statement in private interview wich caused eTurkey to react. Members of goverment of eTurkey came immediatly to ask for explanations from ONE headquatters about that statement. They were right away assured from angeldav that there were no intentions at all to offend Turkish people and that all he tried to do is explain why there are still problems between two countries. We all confirmed to eTurkie goverment that nobody in ONE thinks all turkish players are cheaters. We all agreed there might be not clear that statement is personal, so angeldav added in that article sentence that clearly says it's his personal opinion and does not reflect any position of ONE as alliance. As also it was not clear that he was speaking about genesis of problems we helped him reformulate answer so that it is more than obvious there is no intention to offend anyone. After this Turkey continued by asking him to completely remove comment from article wich he refused to do, as he pointed out that it is clear that he didn't want to offend.

What is stated in that comment if we would make it very long is next:
Spain and Turkey fought on different sides in Phoenix/Eden. Back than there were various cases where Spanish people felt damaged directly and indirectly by illegal stuff provenient from eTurkey. So the image they had about eTurkey is that they have too many cheaters and this is why their people has problems to accept to be allied with eTurkey still today. It is obvious that they cannot be allied only with honest players from eTurkey but with those they think are cheaters too, and they refuse to be allied with them. Problems we have today are present because they still are not convinced that eTurkey doesn't have more cheaters than any other country.
In the second part of article angeldav is pointing out that eTurkey hitting against interest of Spain and ONE is blocking Spanish people from changing mind about eTurkey as they are still acting as their enemies.

There is nothing here that is pointed out in order to offend ANY player of eTurkey, just pointing out facts that generated problem from Spanish point of view. This is what we all understand without any doubt, and is completely clear to us and is what we all explained to eTurkey goverment members. It is job of MOFA of eTurkey to inform eTurkey community about this and explain it to the people, alliance HQ is interacting with ministers because of this, otherwise we would have to write articles and keep explaining things all the time.

What we also explained is that angeldav's previous work inside alliance has confirmed to all of us many times he has nothing against eTurkey. What he always did is strongly protest against any member of Spanish community hitting against Turkey, following battles of eTurkey and putting them as priorities all the time needed, trying to find the way all the time to get better relations between two countries, so he never gave us any reason not to trust him that he never wanted to offend eTurkish people and players.

What eTurkey goverments did all months behind us had all one common thing and it was pushing Spain out of ONE in order for them to get inside except in certain cases. On the other hand all Spanish goverments were trying to solve problems, some more and others less, and we kept speaking about this all the time and made some progress, but without strong collaboration of goverments of eTurkey we could not do more than we did. So this time eTurkey continued with their politics and did everything they could in order to use angeldav's comment to even more turn back population of eTurkey against eSpain and try to convince all other countries that they should kick out eSpain from alliance and take eTurkey in, wich we all explained them million times before is not considered as option. What we wanted was to repair, not to reject anyone. Cutting away is avvoiding problem not solving it, so rejecting any country is simply not acceptable.

What followed is eTurkey started to demand and pretend things from alliance. No country in ONE or proONE has right to demand or pretend anything. We are all friends and between friends we can only ask each other in a polite way, than we can discuss issue and gather majority opinion, than we all respect it even sometimes we don't like it. This is how we work and how we always did.
All demands are simply ignored from start and will be ignored forever, and we feel very offended by anyone demanding something from us as we never demanded anything from any member. We did all feel offended by eTurkey fighting to help Argentina that attacked Peru in order to help eBrazil wich was primary aim of alliance to delete and this way damaged entire alliance although explained many times that we won't fight eArgentina if it's not them to attack first. It was not "defending brothers" in question like they made it seem as it was Argentina the attacking side. What is also fact is that we never blamed players of eTurkey for this, but eTurkey goverment as they never explained eTurkey community what we are doing there and why and they didn't do anything to stop actions, as all those actions were good for their politics of provocating Spanish players to react against eTurkey so that they could use it to convince both eTurkish community and all other communities Spain is not good, all hidden behind story of "defending brothers" that were not attacked from anyone of us and were always the first one to attack ePeru breaking all agreements we made with them even those where eTurkey goverment was present while signed. Even with all this we never demanded and pretended anything from eTurkey as we always tried to understand that they are acting like this because their feelings towards eArgentina, and yes we still beleive people of eTurkey is acting because feelings, but goverments of eTurkey had totaly different interests, and they proved that they don't really care about Argentina as they offered to stop signing MPPs and help eArgentina if we kick out Spain from ONE and get them in, so here we come to true reasons for their actions!
They also kept threatening with first writing public note to all of us and raising their own community against us and probabbly some members of our communities too, than with changing sides and fighting against Spain and ONE all the ways they can. Threatening is something we really won't stand anymore although we all feel very sorry for all players of eTurkey that are beeing manipulated by their goverments this way and players we always wanted with us and fighted for but this is absolutely not the way to do it!

Here are also reasons because eTurkey is not in ONE officialy. First of all two months ago eTurkish mofa told me eTurkey does not even want to join ONE and wants to stay neutral as it is finaly free from war with Greece and wants to try something new. There is and there always will be needed for eTurkey to collaborate with eSpain inside alliance. Also all countries agreed that if eTurkey entered ONE before solving issues it would harm allot eTurkey and it's people. Just to give you one example, as proONE eTurkey can decide on it's own if they will send help in some battle or not, as official ONE member eTurkey would also accept obligation to follow orderes from one headquatters, wich would bring even more problems if orders are fight against Argentina, just try thinking about that. At the begining of the long road this would not be problem as eArgentina was not listed anywhere as enemy of ONE until their constant declaration of war to proONE country of highest interests for completing ONE aims, although beeing promissed we will not attack them and stating many times we don't see them as enemies and don't want to be their enemies if they don't attack us. It is obvious that by attacking us they become an enemy, and this is just what happened. eArgentina becoming considered enemy of ONE would also significate it is enemy of eTurkey if eTurkey would be officialy part of ONE alliance directly and not proONE country, so we all agreed this would harm feelings of big part of eTurkish population and decided that it is best for eTurkey to keep them out till issues are solved even if they ask us to join, wich they did only 2 weeks ago officialy and we didn't have any official request from eTurkey before that period. Logs where Durruti is saying Spain is not accepting eTurkey are from internal discussion about "what would be if eTurkey would ask to join" almost six months ago, and things did change allot since then.

The conclusion of all I said is: we all respect players of eTurkey and we will keep acting by our rules, wich we don't consider are unfair to anyone and are very friendly and democratic even for our opponents. We are not demanding or pretending anything from eTurkey. We are only asking all eTurkey to think well before actions as we cannot justify forever if we don't receive same treatment from eTurkey side - nobody is perfect and we all have to accept our own errors, not only one side, and friends do not react bad every time other side makes mistake but try to understand and listen to each other. eTurkey is free country and we respect their right to decide about their own future and where they want to fight.

For the moment we will stop all official talkings between current goverment of eTurkey and ONE headquatters as we had enough of threats, demandings and pretendings that all coversation is based at till we see direct and obvious improvment and will for things to solve in a friendly way as it is only way to even speak about solving. Spain is founder and member of ONE and there are no single country interests inside alliance, so there is no chance anyone can fight Spain and not fight Serbia, Macedonia, Hungary, Poland or Sweden as we are all investing our money and power to fight against common enemies and this won't change, I even feel weird that I have to specify it as if it was something that is not clear yet. There were not expressed doubts about this as there were no doubts about latest issues expressed from any country of ONE.

I won't be online to respond to comments today probabbly, will explain if needed in next days. Thanx for time and sorry for long article, but there is no way this can be explained shortly and trust me that this is only short summary of all we did and talked about.

gid1 Secretary General of ONE


Secretary General: gid1 & AThompson
vSG: Strozer
Military Commander: angeldav
Department of International Relations: DedaNoe


In the end I would like to invite every friendly citizen of the ONE, every honorable opponent and troll to our public IRC channel on Rizon: #one.public

 
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angeldav
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angeldav Day 1,359, 05:17

Voted and supported.

 
monchi_alcala
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monchi_alcala Day 1,359, 05:17

popcorn ñax

 
Marco Mitich
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Marco Mitich Day 1,359, 05:17

Hail ONE

 
bcabuk
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bcabuk Day 1,359, 05:17

Birinç

 
Sirameth
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Sirameth Day 1,359, 05:18

Voted!

 
Pati Saijic
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Pati Saijic Day 1,359, 05:18

o7

 
Dante N
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Dante N Day 1,359, 05:20

Vote! Hail ONE!

 
Citizenturk
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Citizenturk Day 1,359, 05:20

Beyler türkçe olarak makaleyi özet geçecek var mı dank atarım

 
Superi
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Superi Day 1,359, 05:21

Voted

 
Ivan Terible
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Ivan Terible Day 1,359, 05:23

xD xD xD backstab

 
WeirdPsycho
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WeirdPsycho Day 1,359, 05:23

HAIL ONE o7

 
khas va khashak
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khas va khashak Day 1,359, 05:24

07

 
Norsk_gr
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Norsk_gr Day 1,359, 05:25

Hola

 
bcabuk
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bcabuk Day 1,359, 05:25

@Citizenturk

Özet:Turkiye İspanya birbirlerine karşı vuracağına gelip bizim cephelerde vursun diyor.Diyorki ONE türkleri sever ama ispanyadan vazgeçemez diyor

 
Lord Garfield
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Lord Garfield Day 1,359, 05:25

Gid idi rokni se, ko ti dade da pises ove novine, tvoje mogu i da procitam jer si gid a ovo ne moram xD

 
ivan.sk
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ivan.sk Day 1,359, 05:26

v

 
JasonRonald
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JasonRonald Day 1,359, 05:26

vallahi okunmaz bu arkadaş

 
NefxRoASK
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NefxRoASK Day 1,359, 05:26

Fail ONE

 
RizonPT
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RizonPT Day 1,359, 05:27

ahaha, ONE is FAIL : 3

 
tyger55
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tyger55 Day 1,359, 05:27

@bcabuk
"hassktirin lan" ı ingilizceye çevirsene benim için

 
FatmaGul
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FatmaGul Day 1,359, 05:28

ONE Alayınız o. çocuğusunuz.. olum..

 
Léon Reno
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Léon Reno Day 1,359, 05:29

" We all confirmed to eTurkie goverment that nobody in ONE thinks all turkish players are cheaters. "

We saw Durruti's opinions at your private meeting.

 
vejderr
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vejderr Day 1,359, 05:29

lolololololo, turkish trolls are already here

 
bcabuk
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bcabuk Day 1,359, 05:30

Fail One

 
Seanan
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Seanan Day 1,359, 05:30

"Military Commander: angeldav"

TL:DR but did see he still has a job. Lack of ability to coordinate ONE should be reason for a stack.

 
Akhraziel
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Akhraziel Day 1,359, 05:30

Voted.

 
mikel_ahone
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mikel_ahone Day 1,359, 05:30

/me taking all the popcorns I can

Ofc voted

 
Zygaz
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Zygaz Day 1,359, 05:31

too much reading

 
bloody zerg dedeler
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bloody zerg dedeler Day 1,359, 05:31

liars liars...

bla blaaaa


kill every ONE !!!!!

 
sylar_29
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sylar_29 Day 1,359, 05:31

@Fricke: When turkey send all his army to fight in Illinois, spanish COTD was Macedonia. When Turkey sended a lot of armies to fight against Spain for argentina, Macedonia was loosing rws against Italy and Greece.

With that I am not saying that Turkey didnt fought for you, but they did a lot of damage to all the alliance by fighting Spain. I dont understand how you dont see that and why you dont complain about that.

 
cilvain
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cilvain Day 1,359, 05:31

fail one !

 
Megalexandros
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Megalexandros Day 1,359, 05:33

/me grabbing the Coke Barrel. The fun starts

 
Oscarmanu
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Oscarmanu Day 1,359, 05:33

Voted and supported.

 
Caesar II
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Caesar II Day 1,359, 05:33

Kill every ONE, I like it

 
Ernst von Jacob
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Ernst von Jacob Day 1,359, 05:34

damn i just translated the last article...why you write so much -.-

 
MajereXX
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MajereXX Day 1,359, 05:35

some spanish people has never stopped hitting against eTurkey. And Turks will continue to hit for eArgentina. So nothing will actually change. Same all same all.

 
BeDva
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BeDva Day 1,359, 05:35

"demanding and pretending" - english n00bility detected xD

 
kirei
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kirei Day 1,359, 05:37

Fail article. Shame on you.

 
kloraq
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kloraq Day 1,359, 05:37

"On the other hand all Spanish goverments were trying to solve problems, some more and others less, and we kept speaking about this all the time and made some progress"

I did not expect you to lie publicly my friend.

 
Livits
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Livits Day 1,359, 05:38

English is not my natural language and i dont speak english well too but an official article of the biggest alliance in the game should be written by someone with better knowledge of the language...

 
giorgos6
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giorgos6 Day 1,359, 05:38

Fricke macedonia is a greek region i see in north greece MACEDONIA.BUT NORTH OF GREECE I SEE WEST/EAST MACEDONIA OH TRUE MACEDONIA IS GREEK

 
tekkirma
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tekkirma Day 1,359, 05:39

Somebody said, eturkiye didnt helped One members ? or i understood totally wrong.

We've some good friendship with especially hungary-serbia-macedonia of course.
But
gid1
u'r the spain ass licker.

 
sylar_29
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sylar_29 Day 1,359, 05:39

@MajereXX: How many, two? three? Some turks has never stopped hiting against Spain, and this lasts weeks are not just some turks, are armies.

Instead make millions against Spain in Illinois, why didnt you made all this damage for Sweden or Macedonia? That would helped the alliance.

 
Arif 27ist
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Arif 27ist Day 1,359, 05:39

unacceptable

 
Spanish Power
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Spanish Power Day 1,359, 05:39

ARRIBA ESPAÑA

 
Citizenturk
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Citizenturk Day 1,359, 05:39

Bize atarlanan türk reyizleri bu makaledede görmek isterim,başta takacıları.

 
4fakir
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4fakir Day 1,359, 05:40

True is that eTurkey has the biggest percent of cheaters. Even people in their national bank are cheating.

angeldav you have right!

Tip
Do you know that without eTurkey in erep labs can work 3 times less employees catching multies (we know they just copy&paste same answers). Thanks to the biggest tanks. They keep this game profitable.

 
Skyattacker
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Skyattacker Day 1,359, 05:41

Really funny to see FYROM protest against ONE!!! puppets.... Turkey has been alone way too long...And they managed to pull a decent fight with Bulgaria! But they had to face not some mere firepower...they had to face the strength of an entire BROTHERHOOD..

Turkey i have some respect for you, and some players of yours cause you re decent opponents. However it is really sad to see a country which could be greater than what it is today, to be dragging right behind ONE and not only that, but fighting for those that laugh at your expense.

 
MajereXX
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MajereXX Day 1,359, 05:42

@sylar_29 : I am trying to say both sides have never stopped against each other and they will hit again. So its a fake crisis. Nothing will change in our e-lifes.

 
NefxRoASK
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NefxRoASK Day 1,359, 05:43

Fail Spain Fail ONE

Hail Türkiye
Hail Macedonia
Hail Hungary
Hail Serbia
Hail Argentina
Hail İndonesia

Real Brotherhood

 
Ernst von Jacob
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Ernst von Jacob Day 1,359, 05:44

Great now bulgarians and greeks are good guys and ONE is bad...Macedonia and Turkey forget so fast.

 
SyrkiusAFK
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SyrkiusAFK Day 1,359, 05:44

"eTurkey doesn't have more cheaters than any other country."
Srsly? Sorry, but eTurkey (with eIndo) is no1 in eworld ranking : FF
Go learn history of eRep -_-

 
Citizenturk
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Citizenturk Day 1,359, 05:46

Bu arada makaleyi yazan bizzat sırp,yani onun fikirleri sırbistanın fikri demek,sırptanda bi ayar yemeniz lazım hail sohbetini kesmek için sanırım

 
Bilgehan Canli
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Bilgehan Canli Day 1,359, 05:47

Fail ONE Hail our Macedonian , Serbian and Hungarian brothers ...

 
kloraq
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kloraq Day 1,359, 05:47

"On the other hand all Spanish goverments were trying to solve problems, some more and others less, and we kept speaking about this all the time and made some progress"

Now read this :


[02:29] <gid1> they have 1 month of stupid goverment
[02:29] <gid1> that i hope will change
[02:29] <gid1> asap
[02:30] <gid1> angeldav is still military commander of all ONE alliance for example
[02:30] <gid1> he is spanish
[02:30] <gid1> and he thinks about that goverment same things i do
[02:31] <gid1> point for one members is for sure
[02:31] <gid1> we will wait for elections
[02:31] <gid1> to see if ppl support this kind of politics or not
[02:31] <gid1> as we all
[02:32] <gid1> but things are going to change and solve very soon
[02:32] <gid1> spanish goverment should change or at least i hope so...
[02:33] <gid1> if this goverment stays they cannot survive august in ONE i think
[02:33] <gid1> as all countries are tired
[02:33] <gid1> even poland...

ONE is over for me.

 
chaoss
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chaoss Day 1,359, 05:47

This so fail for ONE...

 
NefxRoASK
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NefxRoASK Day 1,359, 05:47

@Ernst von Jacob

WTF we and macedonians hate bulgaria-greece.we fight against them all time.but spain helps bulgaria and greece

 
eWorldCitizen
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eWorldCitizen Day 1,359, 05:47

@Ernst von Jacob: bulgarians and greeks are always be the good guys : )

 
Skyattacker
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Skyattacker Day 1,359, 05:47

Fricke: truth hurts...i know..just try not to show it too much cause apart from ONE's puppets, i ll think you like to get ridiculed publicly! And dont forget, the name is eREPUBLIK(or dont you know about republic and what it comes with it?)

 
sylar_29
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sylar_29 Day 1,359, 05:47

@Fricke: If you fight against Spain, a member of ONE, what you expect? Ok, whe got it, you hate us, perfect. But we are in ONE, if you want to be in the alliance, or be a proone country and recieve help from ONE, the only you have to do is stop fighting against us, because all the damage you do against Spain, is damage you cannot make for yourself and allies, and damage you drain from us, who can go to for other friends.

Personally, the only I ask right now is stop fighting us and stop crying and using every fucking chance to blaim us, fight us, and put every one against us.

 
nerofida
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nerofida Day 1,359, 05:47

Turkey is a true friend of Greece! Hail Turkey!

 
Braga Citizen
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Braga Citizen Day 1,359, 05:48

gid1 are you durrutti's wife?

This article big big fail. I always fight for macedonia, serbia, hungary.

You are really licker for spain. One became spain's puppet. Shame on you...

 
jaymzhtfld
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jaymzhtfld Day 1,359, 05:48

@sylar_29 may be that million dmg because of angeldav insulting turkey? have you ever think about that?

''why durru you don't want turkey in ONE? - i don't like them.'' that is the summary.

 
KIZILDERiLi
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KIZILDERiLi Day 1,359, 05:48

FAIL ONE

 
sevisenturk
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sevisenturk Day 1,359, 05:49

the point of this article : one chose spain over turkey.

 
Squirrel
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Squirrel Day 1,359, 05:49

Suddenly a wall of text appears. Go go children &lt;3

 
Spirosway
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Spirosway Day 1,359, 05:49

funny article

 
akcadag44
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akcadag44 Day 1,359, 05:50

HAIL TURKEY!
HAIL MACEDONIA!
HAIL SERBIA!
FAIL ONE!

 
Strahinjic Banovan
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Strahinjic Banovan Day 1,359, 05:50

HAIL SPAIN!
HAIL SERBIA!
HAIL ONE!

It's time to protect the alliance, not to support pro-alliance countries!

PS
GID1 is an ordinary thief that gets 10 golds per day from Serbian national companies which he has on his profile. he got that companies when it was deadline to transfer them from national orgs. he should have sold them, but he keeps them for more than 2 months on his acc and so gets profit from companies which are property of all Serbs.

it's a big shame that such a looser is GS of ONE

 
TrabzonLi
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TrabzonLi Day 1,359, 05:51

30kloraqDay 1,359, 05:47
1m ago
"On the other hand all Spanish goverments were trying to solve problems, some more and others less, and we kept speaking about this all the time and made some progress"

Now read this :


[02:29] <gid1> they have 1 month of stupid goverment
[02:29] <gid1> that i hope will change
[02:29] <gid1> asap
[02:30] <gid1> angeldav is still military commander of all ONE alliance for example
[02:30] <gid1> he is spanish
[02:30] <gid1> and he thinks about that goverment same things i do
[02:31] <gid1> point for one members is for sure
[02:31] <gid1> we will wait for elections
[02:31] <gid1> to see if ppl support this kind of politics or not
[02:31] <gid1> as we all
[02:32] <gid1> but things are going to change and solve very soon
[02:32] <gid1> spanish goverment should change or at least i hope so...
[02:33] <gid1> if this goverment stays they cannot survive august in ONE i think
[02:33] <gid1> as all countries are tired
[02:33] <gid1> even poland...

ONE is over for me.

 
kirei
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kirei Day 1,359, 05:51

When will eGreece and eBulgaria be a member of ONE ?

Fail Spain Fail ONE

Hail Türkiye
Hail Macedonia
Hail Hungary
Hail Serbia
Hail Argentina
Hail Indonesia

Real Brotherhood

 
thedream4you
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thedream4you Day 1,359, 05:52

Mega Fail ONE!!!

What did you expect you total failures?
Did you really expect us to fight against Argentina (Our Brothers) with Spaniards (pff) for just being a member of ONE...?
If you really expected us to do this, you really must have been out of mind.
Nevermind ONE... Really nevermind. Face the truth.

I will never fight against Hungary
I will never fight against Serbia
I will never fight against Macedonia
I will never fight against Indonesia
BUT
I will never fight with Spaniards... We will always against them.. that's it.

 
Strahinjic Banovan
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Strahinjic Banovan Day 1,359, 05:52

"Spain is founder and member of ONE and there are no single country interests inside alliance, so there is no chance anyone can fight Spain and not fight Serbia, Macedonia, Hungary, Poland or Sweden as we are all investing our money and power to fight against common enemies and this won't change, I even feel weird that I have to specify it as if it was something that is not clear yet."

L O L

Turkey already fought against Spain... Where is the reaction? This article? Ridiculous...

 
sylar_29
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sylar_29 Day 1,359, 05:57

@MajereXX: You didnt said that before. Still, +1, and neither of both countries did nothing to fix the situation.

 
EliZeRoX
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EliZeRoX Day 1,359, 05:58

Voted Hard !

 
Kole of Lerin
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Kole of Lerin Day 1,359, 05:59

Ajde Fricke, dosta..

 
aykuttt
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aykuttt Day 1,359, 05:59

Hail Turkiye, Macedoina, Serbia and İndonesia
Fail One and Spain...

 
smee again
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smee again Day 1,359, 06:00

WAAAAAAAAA CRY ME A RIVER

 
Arif 27ist
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Arif 27ist Day 1,359, 06:00

30kloraqDay 1,359, 05:47
1m ago
"On the other hand all Spanish goverments were trying to solve problems, some more and others less, and we kept speaking about this all the time and made some progress"

Now read this :


[02:29] <gid1> they have 1 month of stupid goverment
[02:29] <gid1> that i hope will change
[02:29] <gid1> asap
[02:30] <gid1> angeldav is still military commander of all ONE alliance for example
[02:30] <gid1> he is spanish
[02:30] <gid1> and he thinks about that goverment same things i do
[02:31] <gid1> point for one members is for sure
[02:31] <gid1> we will wait for elections
[02:31] <gid1> to see if ppl support this kind of politics or not
[02:31] <gid1> as we all
[02:32] <gid1> but things are going to change and solve very soon
[02:32] <gid1> spanish goverment should change or at least i hope so...
[02:33] <gid1> if this goverment stays they cannot survive august in ONE i think
[02:33] <gid1> as all countries are tired
[02:33] <gid1> even poland...

ONE is over for me.

 
Kanith
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Kanith Day 1,359, 06:01

@Fricke: Cool story bro. btw, caps off plz.

 
Dimitar Ianakiev
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Dimitar Ianakiev Day 1,359, 06:03

So Turkey remains all alone against Bulgaria ... Do you know what that means?
It means that tonight we are having dinner in Marmara ((:

 
skr
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skr Day 1,359, 06:05

Kain and Abel were brothers too. What do you mean fighting against your brothers? :coffee:

 
Keaver
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Keaver Day 1,359, 06:05

"İspanya ONE nin kurucusu, siz ise kapısındasınız, sizi severiz ama haddinizi bilin" demişler.

 
Karagouz
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Karagouz Day 1,359, 06:07

Shame on you Serbia and Hungary!

 
gid1
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gid1 Day 1,359, 06:09

kloraq their goverment was trying less than expected but from statement u see angeldav even than tried to make things right, so we always had people from Spain that more or less collaborated. They are also refered at the time Durruti striked for Bulgaria and was member of Spanish goverment. That same goverment after talkings started to change the way they were acting and finished month with very good impression although I did not expect it before that. This is why today I can say without doubts that they always made efforts, some months more and others less. I can get angry too sometimes you know, so what you are pointing out is just opinion generated because it is not acceptable for any goverment member to strike for EDEN no matter against who.
Anyway after those actions they reacted and understood that it is wrong and changed the way they acted after, the thing i never saw or heard from u, u just kept saying same thing no matter what effort we made.

 
sylar_29
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sylar_29 Day 1,359, 06:09

@jaymzhtfld: You want my opinion? I think angeldav made a mistake. His his opinion, yes, but as Military Commander of ONE he should shut up and "behave". I would understand an article complaining for that, but fight against us you just are damaging your own allies, all of them, sweden, Macedonia, Hungary...

Also, if a ONE country sign an MPP with, for example, Bulgaria, and fight hard against Turkey, sending also entire armies to fight in RWs against you... What you would think about that? Because is exactly what you did. You fought against 3 diferents One & Proone countries(Spain, Peru & New Zealand).

 
thedream4you
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thedream4you Day 1,359, 06:10

BTW
I can expect all that signed these sh.t.
But I can't understand DedaNoe. Why bro? You really meant this? Really is Spain more iportant than Turkey for Macedonia, huh?

 
mark444
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mark444 Day 1,359, 06:13

:popcorn:

i said ONE will choose Spain over Turkey , axoxaooaoxa

 
Ernst von Jacob
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Ernst von Jacob Day 1,359, 06:13

Change side than sign MPP with EDEN and TERRA and attack ONE, but i am tired of this nonsense bitching from both turkish and ONE side...Hungary is under siege now 70% is chance that we will lost every territory, but good to see spain and turkey has firepower for shitbattles...

 
Zefiriasz
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Zefiriasz Day 1,359, 06:13

Daj kebaba

 
jaymzhtfld
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jaymzhtfld Day 1,359, 06:14

@sylar_29 spain doing this everyday. i saw so many amigos fighting for bulgaria. but you never fight for us even when we fight against brasil for you. can you say this is not true?

 
TrabzonLi
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TrabzonLi Day 1,359, 06:15

Durruti = Angeldav > One ?

Fail One
Fail Spain

 
vladb
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vladb Day 1,359, 06:15

Why this big walltext for a statement so obvious ?

   
gid1
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gid1 Day 1,359, 06:16

Did you notice that with that log copy u just confirmed why I say angeldav never wanted to offend? Even when members of Spanish goverment were against eTurkey he was supporting eTurkey, and you just wanted to kill him two days ago saying he is enemy of eTurkey...

 
Iovilios
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Iovilios Day 1,359, 06:16

Turkey why dont u just go and get united with Greece and form a grat Greek-Turkish empire in the whole Balkans and SouthEastern Europe??
More fun babies!!

 
J211
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J211 Day 1,359, 06:17

On the other hand all Spanish goverments were trying to solve problems

Saying all of Turkish players are cheaters will solve aaaaalllll the problems!!! They are trying to solve huh?

 
mark444
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mark444 Day 1,359, 06:18

@ernst

then dont choose that type of commander who dont even know first rule of diplomacy.imagine he says this words to your country.

''dont insult not your enemy , nor your friend''

 
TracyMcGrady
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TracyMcGrady Day 1,359, 06:19

Durruti = Angeldav > One ?

Fail One
Fail Spain

Go home guiza's.
adam olun itler.

 
NEGOSLAV 83
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NEGOSLAV 83 Day 1,359, 06:19

Hail Serbia
Hail Turkiye
o/