[MoNS] About the PTO - Part 2: Who are they?
eBelgian Presidency
Yesterday, we outlined the basic problem of PTO in eBelgium, the what that we are dealing with. Today we are going to present you the beginnings of the “who”. As mentioned in a previous government article, there was an increase in illegal citizenships starting earlier this year. Just before the May Congress elections, 3 citizens were admitted illegally by HOPE/PANDA Congress members on the 22nd and the 23rd of May, were immediately moved to the top of the Congress list, and admitted others of their friends in the first 24 hours after elections. At that time, one of these, ChristijanXD, was identified by several people as a known PTOer who had made attempts in multiple other countries, his previous places of citizenship being Estonia, Croatia, Finland, Austria and the US. Over the succeeding months, he and his friends have admitted more and more of their friends into eBelgium, and in the September Congress elections, helped to engineer a shift of citizens at the last minute so that they controlled two of the top five parties. Subsequent to that election, our government was informed that they were calling for more of their friends to come to eBelgium to help them make a push for control of Congress and the government. It was with this in mind that the decision was finally made to have a total wipe of our regions before Congress elections.
So who is involved? We have had our eyes on a number of people, but towards the end of last month, lord Lukausus came forward with the claim that he wanted to leave the PTO group, and would exchange information for protection. Unfortunately, we have now some reason to believe he was acting as a double agent, but the information he provided did confirm who we believed to be the core leaders of this group. After we tried to give him a chance to prove he could be trusted, sadly, he chose to abuse his position in government by sabotaging the government policy about the resistance war and giving incorrect citizen orders, making this the second month in a row where he had to be fired for breaking trust that had been placed in him.
His information name the following as primary leaders of a group he named as Power Takeover International, one which has attempted takeovers in many countries, and is also connected to the Cipelici who have plagued the eUS for well over a year.
Let’s look at the people on this list:
Aries Sun, the primary leader, according to lord Lukausus
ChristijanXD, a co-leader who has asked for donations to his cause in multiple articles in eBelgium and elsewhere, has repeatedly lied about his purpose here in the press, and has insulted eBelgians individually and collectively for months, for which he has already received two temporary bans.
Thorin II Oakenshield, also named as co-leader. Thorin and Christijan have previously referred to each other as eBrothers on their profiles and in media. Thorin was also identified to us by multiple outside sources at the time he entered eBe as a known part of the Cipelici in the eUS.
Others named by lord Lukausus:
Marko Klis
Texas Cowboy X
Lioncoeur
donkey Pedro
bNeo
pen zi one r
Nick Nolte 2
lin0leum
Arnie007
astrozec
lord Lukausus
What do these people have in common?
1. All are members of HOPE or PANDA.
2. All have been involved in illegal citizenship, either as Congress members or as immigrants or both since May of this year.
3. They all can apparently communicate in or understand Croatian and/or Serbian (screen shots to be provided in another article).
4. A few were eBorn in eBelgium. The rest all have a past in Croatia, Serbia or the US or some combination of those.
5. There are 7 members of HeadHunterz. Several others belong to MUs based in other eCountries that consist of only 1 or 2 people.
So what? you say. Why are we so concerned about them? Surely not all members of HOPE or PANDA, and not all speakers of Croatian or Serbian are PTOers. What is so worrisome about this particular group? Tomorrow we will show you evidence about what they want to do and how they plan to do it.
Kiyonori Dragnier,
Minister of National Security
MaryamQ,
Minister of National Security
NLSP,
President of eBelgium
Comments
Great job guys o7
can't we just make a patriot act and strip them of their power and kick them out?
Too bad that eRepublik does not allow for that 😉
can't we just make a purification act and strip them of their rl power and prevent them connect to the internet to make new acount ever again?
The provided screenshots shows, as one of the multiple proofs and indications we have, that this threat is certainly not fictive and the previous government did good by stepping up.
eBelgium needs to become a country without PTO attempts!
v
There's me, there's vote o7
lord Lukausus named himself?.. : D
He said he had been a "helper", but that he wanted to quit. However, he did things against the government since, and also there have been people he has approached trying to TO other parties.
Belgium... we are coming!
Reminds me of my nights 😛
v
Non nobis Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam
There's Cipelici, there's vote... Expect us!
o7
Go home and play with your dolls please.
Home? I don't have a home, yet. Cipelici is my family, and we want Belgium to be our home. So, Cipelici are going home, to play with the dolls (eBelgium citizens).
🙂
* P.S. Expect us
Damn, I'm sensitive for homeless people, it's such an injustice in this world.
I can understand the PTO aspect of a game, unfortunately in eRep all it takes is a few nobrainers. Why? Because admins didn't actually implement a PTO module/rules, it's just a loophole in gamemechanics.
There are some real RPG games, where you can do just the same, but there you'll actually need to have more than a single braincell to do it.
Conclusion : there are two types of players, those buying gold and those not ( braincell count is irrelevant, buying gold can also be interpreted as having less then 2 )
The Shoe People are commiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing \o/
Good, had to throw out some of my old shoes, so now I have a stack of empty boxes that need filling. I'm expecting high quality, just look nice, so I guess you Shoe are welcome 😛
burn the PTO'rs!!!
burn them all!!
WTF my name is not here????? Evil gov😁)
You can ask to add it I presume 😛
Thorin II Oakenshield is removed from BNA as 2nd commander and from the MU.
BNA will not tolerate people who are involved in the PTO
I know you saw this article last night after giving me the supplies to distribute and wanted me to supply it right away cause you were scared I would keep it for myself.
You shouldn't worry, I am not a man like you are, and I would never do such thing. Obviously.
And you're obviously a kid or a grown immature man acting like cowboy which is even sadder.
If you were a man you would first confront me about this issue.
I did not do anything to harm eBelgium, or the BNA, nor I had the intention. Always fought and will fight for eBelgium while I am here, no matter in which MU I am in.
It's probably a difficult thing to understand for a man like you.
Nevertheless, I wish you all the best, my old friend. 😉
Well sorry Thorin but you have to choose a side. The minority wants to get power by adding votes while the majority didn't approve that. Democracy will defend itself 🙂
I appreciate your opinion, Chihiroh. o7
"Chihiroh implies that democracy by crushing minorities", today in your favorite newspaper.
😉
Thanks for fighting for eBe 🙂
I've had some very good communication with Thorin, he was in TBD a brief period of time. Even though from the beginning, I knew he was maybe part of the PTO group, I always had the feeling he was the most open to a reasonable discussion and conversation. I also think that he did a good job in BNA while he was there. Respect for that. Now that he is identified and confirmed member of the PTO group I guess it was the right decision to fire him from BNA and relieve him from his duties.
V!
Lol, last time I was a PTO'er and now all of the sudden I'm not anymore. Make up your fricking minds, people. You don't know yourself who's a PTO'er and who isn't. You breed fear and paranoia to control the public.
Every month I see different names being mentioned as so called PTO'ers. This is getting redicilous. I advise the people on that list to report this article as it's getting really disgusting how certain people are always advised and being bullied out of this country.
And where did you find an official statement telling you are a PTO'er? Right, nowhere😁 Cipeleci is coming, they are saying it themselves, read the comments. As to you, go aim to cheat/lie/deceive somewhere else, maybe one day you'll succeed 😃
Not sure wether people called you a PTOer or more someone who isn't making life difficult for PTOers.
Why? Because I think everyone has a right to settle where and when they chose to in this game? I'm not blocking them. they're players just like anyone else. And they deserve a shot, just like anyone else. They haven't harmed anyone and they haven't stolen anything.
As a result of your paranoia, you kicked out Thorin from BNA. One of the few active members you got there and a guy who hasn't done anything wrong.
GG eBE, these PTO'ers don't need to do anything. You are too busy destroying yourself with internal fearmongering and paranoia.
FYI, I did not kick anyone 😉
I am active enough by myself, GM is doing fine, I think 😛
Not talking about you. You're cool. You're one of few in here who isn't a complete idiot. I am more refering to the people in government atm and the ***** running it.
Shadow : I am not sure wether I would trust those trying atm to get in, why would I want to replace the current thieves by other 'potential' thieves 😛
And to be really fair, if I were to PTO a country, I would definitely do no harm. That's the very heart of the problem, eRep is a place filled with people ready to take what they can get, and the admins don't do much to aid the fairer players amongst us. See how easy it is to take over a party, can you imagine a newbie, who in his/her folly decides to spend gold on one because it is an option. Only to see it readily taken over by a bunch of no-lifers. But I'm a suspicious person by nature, I generally classify all human beings as evil. It's human nature to f**k someone over if you can 😉
Anyway, back to business, the leaderboard 🙂
V!
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pen zi onr r may be a PTOer but I still respect his strength. Man you're overpowerfull for your own good; i told you that \o/.
Ok, now we have a list, thanks for that. Anyway we'll stay wiped for at least three months if nothing goes against ones' will (mine included). So that's good, it's settled.
Maybe I PTOer but..
Believe it or not I do not vote in elections. It cost me 5experience per vote . With 20 experience I take BH . 😁
I didn't even knew you get 5 xp / vote 😁.
Yeah I figured it out that with you strength you get 1 xp / kill and with your damages each DO is a BH or nearly 😁.
This in two artiles. First one will be about influence (some guys mater on this thing).
Aries Sun?
That is the guy who talking in dutch right?
Aries Sun = Manneken Piss = Mabellene.
Yes, i know that is she/he but couldnt remember her/him name
Just clear out the treasury and there won't be a reason to PTO.
They have. Honestly, this whole wipe-thing is just a power grab
Treasury is already in some citizen hands. Like mine (mwahaha - biggest ptoer ever as i really succeded in a way 😁)