[miles]True Disengagement
miles247
Disengagement, how does it work? We all rely on world for a proof of our existence. We exist only when others think about us. We are nobody when nobody thinks about us.
It is far too easy to say – I don’t care. The world can go f*ck itself for all i care – especially when you are young and energetic and you find society to be only worthy outlet of your energy. But, even this “I don’t care” betrays anger, meaning you still have some sort of emotion, which engages you back to the world. Because you have anger towards something and you want it to behave better, attaches you to it much like any other emotion. Disengagement works on a much higher and deeper level as has been brought to my notice lately.
In order to truly free oneself, one has to understand his/her engagements deeply. Understand their depths, their workings, if you really want to cut them from the root.
Human mind is an amazing thing. It keeps working all the time. And the times when we are not forcing it to think about something are the times that should be given more notice, for when mind is free, the memories have more truth value in my opinion. When we are walking down the road and listening to music, our mind still wanders. Give notice to where it has gone, for your mind still thinks about it. Try to understand what those wanderings mean and you might come to realise the depth of your connections/engagements. It is a difficult task, but easier than the second part still. For second part is to remove those connections from root level. Well, we all know how that works. Simple approach is to forget and laugh, for that is all you can do.
Signing Off,
miles247
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I don't think one can disengage without, well, being indifferent. And for me, indifference leads to apathy and it is one of the biggest ills of our nation as well as our e-nation. Even if all you can do is laugh and forget, it is important to let people know why you're laughing - and why you want to forget.
I don't know what this is about. I apologise, I didn't mean to pontificate.
Don't try to get into my head miles. it'll kill you : P
Hamturk: Have you seen the Charlie Sheen video - "Oops can't handle it" and "tiger blood" and all that?
Interesting ideas Arawn & miles. Indifference doesn't really mean apathy but not letting things bug and bother you. Ideas and possible scenarios play in our mind and have us suffer even when nothing is really happening. Give your 100% when it comes to solve a problem but when you are not working or strategizing, you should not be thinking about it. Similarly, if one thinks bad of you then you can't really do anything because its his thought. All you can do is do your best in whatever you do.
/me very glad to see more and more friends geting involved in those discusions.
Disengament could be understand as Detachement or Contenement [Samtosa (सन्तोष)], and it would better be understod so, because just leaving something or denyenig is not helpfull and create a lot of side's effects that are not desired.
Instead, changing the normal (meaning created and administrated by the subconscient) Engagements, Atachements or Adictions even,with this "lightly" (very well pointed ArawnLives) Contentment, wich is also a state of mind (but not being silly, dumb, blind faithfull, etc) could prove a better atitude.
Sure, this process will be a kind of Tapasia because the mind will not renounce willingly to the patterns she have, not will indulge our control (and could prove to be a very determinated beast : D).
The greater the dependency, the better object for this detachement she is.
Well done miles bhai ! Very well done.
You are closer and closer.
oh my God, Guru Marius is picking up disciples!!!?? what is this eqorld coming to!! sigh
On a serious note - glad to see a new Miles who seems to be more at peace with himself o>
Carry on Guruji! may your clan grow!
@Ashwamedh: This I learned from a RL friend of mine btw. : P
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How apt.
Havent logged into the game in over a week, which is very unusual for me.
The first thing I see is the link to this article.
Read it whilst having my morning coffee.
Decided I will simply log out again, continue this disengagement.
Feels good 😉
Have a nice day, you guys.
Oh how the second paragraph sounds so familiar! : )
I knew an angry guy once. In his will to dissect he world, to get all the gruesome on the surface, to test its explosiveness, all he managed to do is sink deeper and deeper in this engagement, this connection which was made at a wrong level.
Now, what would a *good* level be? From my part, there are 3 major components: acknowledgement, acceptance, moving on.
That is to say, in short: Yes, there is a world around me and I am part of it. I see things happening that may impact me even slightly, I make things happen that have an impact. I can accept that the world and I are in a symbiotic relationship. Now I will mind my own business. (this sounds so Zen, I should be mentioned in books : P)
Now, every relationship has its ups and downs, but you know, that makes living so exciting. You have ongoing battles, surprise attacks, pleasant victories, bitter losses. It's so wonderful 😁
You can't really control the measure of how your mind and soul absorb the presence of the world, or the acknowledgement that it's there. You can, however, control your actions. And that could lead to a change of perception, because experience is a tough teacher which primarily works on a subconscious level. Just take a bit more time than one would expect : )
*hug* for my peaceful bebe 😘
takes a bit more time* 😃
spelling sometimes spoils everything : ))
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Interesting. Really interesting.
voted anna!
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"Master your mind, rather than letting your mind master you."
While I am all for thinking and pondering on the intricacies of the mind - at the end of the day, its like holding an ice-cream, wondering why its melting. I, for one, would much rather eat it, before its gone.
Living in the moment, being honest to oneself, helping others to the best of our abilities, enjoying whatever it is one is doing at any point of time - that to me is freedom. Freedom from thinking/worrying about how the rest of the world perceives us. Disengagement.