[Kyle4PotUS] What We Need: Military Reform
Day 861, 11:05
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by Kyle321n
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I'm supposed to be the soldier who never blows his composure
Even though I hold the weight of the whole world on my shoulders
I am never supposed to show it, my crew ain't supposed to know it
Even if it means goin' toe to toe with a Benzino it don't matter
I'd never drag them in battles that I can handle unless I absolutely have to
I'm supposed to set an example
I need to be the leader, my crew looks for me to guide 'em
If some shit ever just pop off, I'm supposed to be beside 'em
Let's talk Military. I haven't seen a good presidential campaign focus on military change for a while now, and I know change scares some people in the Military when you talk about change.
This is WHAT WE NEED, to strengthen the military, and take some of the pressure off of our taxes.
Military Reforms
There wouldn't be anything too major, just you know forcing every Manufacturing and Construction worker to work in a commune...
Ok let's take a step back. First we would not be removing military members from their branches, and we wouldn't be removing any funding from the troops. We would be moving some money around, but you wouldn't see your branch lose anything that it currently does.
What my plan consists of:
1. Every Manufacturing skilled military member would be required to work in either a weapons company or ticket company that would be run by their branches Quartermasters.
This would make the branches nearly (and I mean nearly, because there would be a TON of weapons and tickets produced and held until absolutely needed) self-sufficient. It has worked for the militias, and I think the past 8-9 months has been a pretty good test case.
2. Every Construction worker would be placed into training sectors to produce manufacturing items. Constructions are useless to the military (sans houses, but I don't think anyone would ever say "Hey let's give everyone in the military an item that's going to expire soon and doesn't cause any damage"
😉and we should start training them to manufacturing so we can have them produce items that cause damage.
3. Every land worker should work for either oil or iron companies, and donate 1/2 their salary to their branch. I know this won't be popular, but this will help the US save money and every military member will be receiving everything they need. The companies they work for should be military friendly, and I believe that anyone not working in a company without the "MF" sticker, should be warned.
4. All military members would be either supplied with Q3 food items or enough money each day/week to purchase Q3 food. This will keep wellness up in the branches as well, as some people are wasting money on weapons in meaningless battles or training battles. Everyone would be supplied with weapons and tickets (if the need to move and fight arises)
Potential Problems:
1. Marines: Yes the Marines need to still train with Lana. There is a group of Marines who receive 1/2 of their Lana training every day, and I believe we should start funding the full amount of Lana for the top 50 strength Marines. If there is someone in the military who is outside of the marines but stronger than one of the top 50 Marines, they should receive that funding instead, but we'll start with the Marines, since they are the strongest of the eUS. This of course is excluding the Marines who can fund themselves, they are cool by me because they don't need no gold! I understand this is going to cause somewhat of a schism in the Marines and the Military, but I will remind you that there are many surveys that work for gold, and if you really want you can spend 30 minutes each day, you can get 2 gold from the surveys and then train with Lana every day. It's not tough, and it's only 1/2 hour.
2. The initial cost: the initial cost of everything that will eventually save you money will always cost more. Yes it will be bad, but it won't be terrible.
3. The Economic effect: This will kill the weapons market, let's face it. Weapons Company owners will hate this until they here this: we will pay for your weapons company. Now it costs 20 gold for a Q1, 40 for a Q2 and 90 for a Q3 company. I think it'd be fair for the government to pay 18 gold for a Q1 company and then paying the market price for the amount of weapons and iron already in the company. We don't need more companies created, so this will save the government money, and it will get the owners who have invested money in these companies some of that money back to them. We will also do the same for ticket companies, but this won't kill the tickets market very much
I'm not going to bore you with the numbers, but if I'm elected and I propose this to congress, I will bore them with the numbers, and I will need some support from the JCS to show how this will save them money. I know I'm crazy, and this idea is crazy, but I know it will work, and I'm super confident in it.
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Militarymaxxx
WHAT WE NEED!
Man, I love working in military companies...
I would agree to this
eyey!
@ HHPew 8 minutes ago
Says the Militia person....
"I'm not going to bore you with the numbers"
Please do, because I'm convinced this just impractical, and it's political rhetoric.
Try again.
The only thing that made me raise an eyebrow was the buy back plan (PP section 3). Are you really proposing for the government to buy all those companies? I am curious if you've found a way for the government to afford such an endeavor. Also, how would it significantly cut down on the amount of companies on the market if there is no constraint other than 20g from stopping people from starting a company? I imagine this would cut some companies out of the market but not enough to make much of a difference. Then again, this is off the top of my head and if you have numbers, well, numbers pew pew my concerns.
"as some people are wasting money on weapons in meaningless battles or training battles."
This part is false unless the soldier is already a Field Marshal. Any increase in damage until you reach Field Marshal great because it helps you attain that rank faster. That is why Guns > Lana for ranks under FM. Don't use Lana unless you can afford to use guns every fight.
@Evilbino Noman, Trust me you don't want to see the numbers, and the JCS would kill me if I even insinuated at how many troops they had. Numbers are messy and messy things are left to congress. I'd clearly show them the numbers in this plan but if you want to take your platoon numbers and base those off of your branches number and extrapolate the budget number you get vs. the budget of Q3 food every day for you and your buddies, you'll see it's cheaper.
@shineybluepope: Pew pew indeed 🙂 We wouldn't have to buy every company on the market, just enough companies to house every soldier in the military (that's of Manu or Const. skill) There would still be companies that hold out and don't sell, and there will be companies started by people who don't know better. Just like there are Hospital and Defense System companies started up in the US. We can't stop stupid people from not researching before they start a company unfortunately. But we can try to educate them.
@Kell Draygo, good advice, Guns are > Lana for ranking up, if you can afford both than bravo, you have more successfully played the GOLD offers game than I. In this plan I believe we could supply our troops with weapons every other day for an extended battle, if not every day with stock piles. But 1000 Barefisted fights are better than 500 Q2 fights, so I'd rather see the military be organized and in full control of it's troops rather than 500 freelancers doing what they want, and that's part of what this plan will do.
From your avatars, I must thank all 3 of you for serving though! <o
very ambitious...
I'm not sure about your numbers, though...
Kell Draygo--God bless you!
I've been advocating what you are saying for months. Now, why doesn't the government go into competition with Lana with a program of selling cheaper weapons to all those that want to rank up quicker? Inquiring minds want to know.
Why pay for their companies? Isn't V2 going to bring the option of killing companies for a gold return?
Kyle321n: "If there is someone in the military who is outside of the marines but stronger than one of the top 50 Marines, they should receive that funding instead"
I disagree, there may be stronger players outside the Marines but most likely those strong players outside the Marines are actually weaker than than soldiers in Training Division. Why? Because following orders, working together, and hitting walls at the same time and in the last moments of a battle are what give Marines strength; chances are if you're not in the military you have a problem doing those things.
Also I don't think the eUS can afford fully subsidizing Napoleon training for the top 50 Marines. Since that would work out to 90 Gold a day, 2,700 Gold a month; which to my understanding is more than the current total funding for the Marines.
I would suggest the incorporation of gifts into that list of companies. Communes, even military communes, need gifts now to survive, unless they're pumping out Q5 food and/or houses(which you say will be specifically left out)
Furthermore, do you believe that these new systems will be a deterrent for military members? As in, when someone is going to join the TC, and then they see that they'll have to give up a large amount of their salary, it will cause them to not join the military?
Most militias are very small, for the very reason that it takes a lot of commitment to be a part of one. Abstention from any political position as well as the loss of most if not all of a persons wage.
Oh, and by the way, Q3 food does not cover all wellness. Even if you're only working a Q1 job, you're still at a loss of wellness per day, until about 83 wellness. So under your system, people would either have to spend their remaining wage on gifts, or remain completely at 83 wellness.
😁Civil knows what he is talking about
@CivilAnarchy and sdrawkcab: Actually they are removing the gifts and changing the wellness gain formula. We're not sure what it's going to be until they finally announce it, and until them I'm only saying Q3 as a baseline. If it needs to be more or less then so be it, but gifting won't be an option once V2 hits.
Yea but you're suggesting the removal of houses and gifts right now, while V2 might not be coming out until the end of spring, meaning it could be out in June. What do you suggest the military does during the month where you are president? Live at 83 wellness and a $ a day?
"I believe we should start funding the full amount of Lana for the top 50 strength Marines."
50*1.8*30 = 2.7k per month.
@Kyle321n:
Thanks for your attempt to explain, Personally I think the best way to invest in the military is in the expansion and improvement of MT companies. With the correction of the hospital 'glitch' deploying is beating the hell out of our military. It is difficult to afford enough gifts to keep wellness up, especially on a commune salary. I would really like to see investment in Q3 or higher MT companies. This is something that will carry into v2 as well so it is a much better investment that gift companies in the long run.
Honestly, you're not going to see support from the military in this. It's not that your ideas are bad, they're just really impractical.
This makes no sense. Moving construction workers into Manu?
...wut?
Make q5 houses, sell them for a shit ton of gold. Buy supplies with it. You really want to waste 10+ skill construction workers making q1 guns?
Also, why even bother with moving tickets or q1 guns? You can make something else, sell it, and buy moving tickets. Making q1 goods is what noobs are for.
Same for oil basically. Currently the crappiest raw mat. Make wood, sell it, buy oil.
If you want a well funded military, run the military like a business. I mean do you make q1 raw mats? No, you make q3 or q4, because you get a lot more stuff with the same resources. Similarly, a q5 gun only costs 5 times to make what a q1 gun does, but sells for 10 times more (excluding capital investment). You'll have soldiers lose a bit more wellness (gift them?) but you'll have twice as many guns at the end of the day. If you make more stuff in terms of MT and guns than you can use, well shit, that's easy street.
As someone who is in a branch with "communes", I can vouch for this idea. It's a great way to help subsidize supplies for the military. Another bonus is that it makes firing troops much speedier, allowing mobile branches to deploy faster than if they were working at a civilian company.
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this is stupid. the military doesnt need reform. half of these things you "plan to do" already happen.
and nationalization of the weapons sector is the opposite of what the economy needs. All this would do is give the military branch too much power in govt. it would put them in control of the economy
this is cool. voted and subbed.
I support this (even without reading it), solely because you quoted an eminem song.
Now let's see what you wrote.