Join the new world

I can introduce you to a few top econ guys if you want to. Joining an alliance isn't about negotiation though, it's about being liked. All vriendjespolitiek in the end.

I would love that! I could use someone with the right connections

Voted

Voooted. Best candidate so far by a mile!

Says the guy who wants to be wiped by Poland and to join Asteria/LETO/Asgard. xD Did you actually read and understand what he wrote in the alliance section of his article?

Yes I read it. But it seems you're just like the rest refusing, for some reason, to understand my positions on joining Aurora. But I'll repeat it again. I'm not against joining Aurora, but if they think of us as their puppets then **** it. And it's clear that they don't care about us. You very well know that joining an alliance doesn't take several months. But I do NOT mind maintaning good relations with Poland, as long as we keep our land back and they don't push us around which they certainly are doing atm. I'm sure Kordak can change that.

And Kordak is right. What is the point of destroying the good relations we have with Aurora nations? Until we actually join the alliance as a full member, I will always be sure that we are acting as a puppet state.

Please comprehend before you presume. You'll achieve a lot in life if you do that.

You don't even get on irc so how would you know who is a puppet of who anyway. Nobody pushes us around because they are afraid of me. We do cede territory to PL, but that is out of mutual understanding rather than them coming in saying all your base are belong to us.

1) Where at any point has Aurora said they thought of us as puppets or shown they think of us as puppets?

2) Actually I know very well that it DOES take some time to join an alliance. It has taken a bit longer due to several HQ shuffles which I can be you are completely unaware of seeing as you don't seem to pay attention to much of anything really.

3) You need to inform yourself of the treaty we have with Poland currently and the history of our country. No, Kordak CANNOT get ALL of your land back and you are kidding yourself if you actually believe that.

4) The good relations with have with Aurora nations? The puppet comment again? Do you understand what you just wrote there? >.> You need to inform yourself more about this game, seriously.

5) YOU are the one presuming you know anything about what is going on from the very extremely little information you appear to have heard. lol And I've achieved plenty my friend. xD

1) Why would they say such a thing? Actions speak louder than words.

2) If that's what you want to believe, then I really don't care much anymore. I have given up on the situation with Aurora. If you want our country to be split into two forever, then so be it.

3) I spit on that treaty. It's just further evidence of our puppet status in this eWorld. And what makes you think Aurora will accept us into their alliance if we can't even preserve our original borders?

4) This is exactly my point in my previous comment. If you had the decency to understand you would know that I want to preserve the relations with Aurora IF we get our land back and they stop pushing us around.

5) If you say so. Congratulations.

1) All the help with Norway, and willingness to let us keep 3 regions kinda shows their actions are not that of the way you would treath a puppet.

2) With Asgard it didn't go any faster so no reason to belief it would go faster now.

3) No this treaty is good to us, being perma wiped sucks, more so now that the occupying country takes the taxes, if we get wiped we loss any income while they gain a bit, instead the only take the 2 for the bonus and pay the taxes they gain from it back. Though yes i would like to see a little more compensation for the loss of production for all those players that loss out from that.

4) What you want is unrealistic. And if you want to be mad about it be mad at erep, cause they in there wisdom(lack there off) gave a small nation with few players a rare resource, basically they rigged the game against eNL and the fact the Polish or any powerful nation is willing to conceive and look at our interests as well, as oppose to just there own shows some respect rather than looking at us like we are nothing, which truthfully when comes to military power or diplomatic relations is what we are in comparison to them.

You really don't even understand the difference between Sirius and Aurora. Poland 😕= Aurora. Aurora did everything they can to help us during our last war and they never once gave us any orders to do anything. I want what ever you're smoking. >.>

They ARE NOT pushing us around in any way. No matter how many times you make that claim, it doesn't make it true.

At this point, it's like everyone is talking to a brick wall with you. Either one day you will get that and learn how to play the game or you will end up like most misinformed young players.. quitting in a few months.

Frankly how can the voters trust you to continue on the path of joining Aurora when you've bashed on those very efforts to do so for several months now? And how are we to feel confident with you negotiating our entry into the Aurora alliance when you failed to accomplish anything alliance-related as CP during your last term despite your claims otherwise? And you expect is to also trust you with handling relations with our allies like the UK, Germany, and Belgium as well? I have serious doubts about your capabilities to be honest.

And how did the previous governments did on negotiating with aurora? almost 2 months further now and still no words from them.

Read the updates from Maarten on the forums. 🙂

So it is our duty to get informed by the government? I see it as the task of the government to inform the people 🙂

I've read them. First trial membership was just a few days away, 26 days later it tells me the leaders of aurora keep resigning, but a new one will be voted soon.

despite the fact that it makes aurora look like a group leaded by amateurs, i trust Maartenw on his talks with aurora. But i want steps taken next month, and not just talking.

@Kordak On the forums everyone who is a citizen can read it and learn about things such as alliance developments. 😛

@071leiden I'm sure everyone can agree that we all want steps taken but the fact is we aren't the only ones involved here. There are other elements to this and as you can see clearly the HQ shuffle has disrupted some things.

Come on this is a game, I have no hard feelings against Belgium or Germany. In the past I was the ambassador of the UK and have even been a citizen there, I like them. I was protesting against the way our government wanted to join Aurora. I have always been pro Aurora and I voted to join Aurora. I just don't like the backstab style. You might have doubts about my capabilities, but remember that I was the first one who did put some trust in you by giving you a government position. You might forget that.

"You might have doubts about my capabilities, but remember that I was the first one who did put some trust in you by giving you a government position. You might forget that."

Yes, you did and I thank you for that. But that doesn't exactly make me feel any more confident about the prospect of you running for CP yet again. 😛

"I have no hard feelings against Belgium or Germany. In the past I was the ambassador of the UK and have even been a citizen there, I like them."

I have my doubts, honestly, but I guess we will just have to take you at your word about that.

Oh and by the way, didn't you just resign as Chairman of Congress because you couldn't handle being criticised for your failures? Are we supposed to elect someone who resigns and claims they're going to quit when things get tough like that? >.>

I was getting tired of the accusations I got as CoC, while I in first place in my election post stated that I would not be available for like 3 days, but people couldn't get that apparently. After that they totally freaked out because I was not online for 13 hours and started to complain. So if they all know it so much better, they should do it themselves right? People need to chill down, because they only seems to be focused on negative things.

While I understand what you're saying, this is ePolitics and you were in a position that required certain things from you. You shouldn't put yourself in a position where you aren't able to fulfill what is required is all I'm saying.

Come on, I was online every day, but every 3 hours is not realistic. Besides of that there were no rules for sending notifications, it is just for less inactive congressmen.

biggest problem was you claiming to be online everyday but still neglecting to start a debate and later vote on an important matter in a normal timespan. 60 hours isn't nothing...

I posted about being inactive for those days *sigh*

fine let's disregard those days then till you came back. but that still leaves 18 hours... since you even posted in the topic where the vote should have started....

18 hours and yes I was on mobile, I also posted that so it took some longer. Still withing 24 hours, within the time. Now stop whining about a few hours.

no not within (not withing that's something quite different 😉 ) 24 hours. since that particular vote started 42 hours after it should have started.

Because I was not back yet, I clearly said that I would be 3 days away.. If you still don't understand it you could pm me about it.

Being CoC and being CP is not that much different when it comes to criticism. If you can't stand it when you are CoC, you better stay away from the CP spot.

This attitude will not bring you much futher, I hope you will get some more happiness in playing this game. You seem not to enjoy it anymore 🙂

Im just giving you a fair warning, about something you should actually know already. That has nothing to do with my playing experience.

what attitude kordak? as CP there will always be people critical of you. since you couldn't take it as CoC. what makes you think you can take it as CP since a CP will get 99% more bitching and whining then the CoC.

You are warning me? Aha..

I have no problem with critics, I have problems with people not listening and playing the game only to whine about others.

v & s

No worries, Lord Jale. He doesn't need our votes. He bought them. Order #11782 he bought from the voters club 50 votes so expect his total to rise more. XD

Kordak has invited me in his government team and was very polite to me, that is way I voted and sub his article. Buying votes is act which I do not approve even that is only in gray zone..

If I bought them myself I would have done that 6 hours ago, however I am thankfull to the person who bought them for me. It is a supporter or a troll haha besides of that it is strange to say that using media is bad since presidents always spend millions on it xD

@Kordak Actually once Cody's article had well passed you suddenly someone decided to buy votes?? And you expect us to believe it wasn't you? Very suspect. Either way it is immoral to do so. It's not using legitimate media. It's using money to buy your way to the top spot in the media to try to better your chances in the election. That's simply wrong.

Funny now you are blaming me for things I did not do *sigh* I have bought votes plenty of times to others, for example for James Janeway. Maybe someone wanted to pay it back idk. Why do you worry so much about me if I may ask, you make me feel uncomfortable 😛 people could decide for themselves if they vote or not, Lord Jale only posted V&S and you had to comment on it..

That's an awfully big coincidence don't you think? If you are so comfortable buying votes for others, why would you not feel the same when it comes to your own articles? And the reason I comment is I personally find it to be stupid and a waste of money and a sneaky way to try to get attention illegitimately so that's why I comment. It's not something new that people don't like when others buy votes to push an agenda. Clearly Lord Jale doesn't like people buying votes either and others as well, not just me.

Yes, he was polite to me too and invited me to be an adviser. 🙂 But I agree with you. I do not approve of buying votes either.

Why can't you people be nice to eachother? That would make this game so much more enjoy-able!

I agree with you on that

Maybe you should ask vS to be in your cabinet.

I will get the popcorn in that case

Go back to Norway and don't interfere in eNL business

Let's bring back the Ministry of Health in it's former glory! ----> Xibbert is coming back?

No only the ministry, with a different minister

Thats a shame he would be happy to provide health again, just to Norwegian.