[jw] Constitutional circlejerks
Hell The Great
A long time ago, in a g-. You get the idea. Basically a few years ago the UK had a system of off-game based rules. In our traditional monocle and sherry toting way, we tried to mirror the realities of real life in the game. Legislation, The Houses of Parliament (complete with a crusty set of old players fulfilling the 'House of Lords'), it was even taboo to talk of ghastly Americanised Presidents. Ultimately, the system began as a way to supplement the game; add some more 'homely' features that were more in line with our own experiences of Government.
Ultimately, the off-site system began to become more and more influential, ultimately leading to groups of players trying to control people within the game, using rules and systems that were no part of it. The modern day equivalent is Citizenship - there is no way for us to control who gives citizenship to who, but we can advise and hope.
The current consensus, as I understand it to be, amongst Party Presidents is to reinstate such a system to govern the usage of the Dictatorship system. Of course, when a party reelects the king of circlejerk, it is a foregone conclusion that there will be a powerful force trying to reinstate such a system.
But let us not forget the mistakes of the past. We have tried off-site and article based Legislation before. It doesn't work. It is not enforceable. All it takes is one person to ignore such legislation, and it is reduced to nothing. Sure, we can debate and discuss, and we can come to an agreement on what we hope to achieve. But this is not enforceable in articles or agreements. Ultimately, a non-game mechanic based system exists until someone decides it doesn't. Any elected President can, in the future, ignore such a system. UKRP, of all parties, should be ready and willing to admit this, as the last time they tried to Legislate this, a President they themselves got elected ignored it.
So in the upcoming debates that will be had in every party, I hope all members can remember one simple thing. Writing an article does not force anyone to do anything. Writing a post on an off-site forum is equally useless. The only way for this to be any sort of binding or continuous system, is for us, the people to demand it of our Presidents.
In the future, any President who does not publicly and equivocally state in their manifestos that they will pass the Dictatorship on to the winner of the next election should be hounded, pressured, laughed at, belittled, BigAnt'd, if you will, until they fall in line. Appleby, UKRP et al can circlejerk if they want to, but this guy's not one for sharing verbular masterbation with anyone.
Wishful thinking will get us nowhere. Putting someone who has been out of international circles for years, is also rather fruitless. Our Dictator can't be someone we pick just simply because we want to please the biggest group of people. Even the most special amongst us has realised that already.
Wayne has, by all accounts, still got a fair chunk of the treasury; at least from what has been said in Cabinet and Government mass PMs this month - so this decision is not just about who will be able to bring our country back. That, is part 1. Part 2 - just who do we need to put in power to get that money back? Someone competent, someone with a proven record of getting stuff done, and most importantly,
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You must have wrote this in a rush or while tired. It lacks your usual flair.
An actual comment for the article: All that off site stuff worked for a time, arguably a long time while the majority of the community supported it. It was not one man that brought it down, but rather a movement.
Bearing that in mind, this 'Consitutional Dictatorship' could also work for a while. Depending on how long it works will either justify or condemn the plan.
Travelling for business, I can only write from my phone. Don't worry, I'm back to normal from tomorrow.
I was once (for my sins), a member of the erstwhile 'House of Lords'. This did (as Jamesw describes) work for a period before becoming totally ineffectual. Ultimately, without any means of policing the legislation that we produced, the whole structure became vestigial and collapsed.
The resulting 'Dark Period' lead to the demise of many previously active eUK players (including my own transition to suspended animation).
I am sure that there *is* a way in which we can devide an efficient (and stable) form of Government for the eUK - but this will need to be through through very carefully - and will need to take into account the collective experience of our population of older players.
You seem to think that an agreed framework between all the community's parties isn't as enforceable as your own crude solution of having the CP as dictator:
"In the future, any President who does not publicly and equivocally state in their manifestos that they will pass the Dictatorship on to the winner of the next election should be hounded, pressured, laughed at, belittled, BigAnt'd, if you will, until they fall in line."
You don't see why they can't be 'hounded, pressured, laughed at, belittled, BigAnt'd,' in a different case...?
tl;dr ultimately
Probably shouldn't put you in power in case you park outside a McDonalds at some point.
you know what? making the elected president as dicktaker can also give a problem.
look at what happened in ireland. they gave the dicktaker position to the elected president and their 1.5m cc got stolen by their newly elected dicktaker.... after that they wasted 200k cc to start a revolution...
putting the CP into absolute power has a bad side too.
the best option is to make the most trusted citizen to be dicktaker and make him clicks all day and do what CP tells to him, (in other words, become a puppet of CP 😛). don't worry, he also gets 80g/month which is nice for him.
I feel like we can be much more efficient if we jerk in a square.
Triangle all the way brah...
Three of us better vote our own comments.
blame jamesw
That's the deal with trying to manage power, power doesn't want to be managed, it want's to be expressed. Use if or loose it. The governance of the stupid masses by the wise few is doomed to failure just as the well meaning dicktaker. Ultimately you either shit on people or climb up into your own arse. The game mechanics reward the guy who plays for shitz, not the overly serious people who want to better everything. I'm the guy who wants to play the best game, all the time, make the least mistakes and ensure that everyone plays my style or else. It doesn't work and even when you're in control, it's actually just as meh as if you weren't and nobody will thank you for it. Just as we can't meaningfully make inroads into taking and keeping another country, it's virtually impossible to establish long term dominance of deed. On the other hand, we can allow the subversive elements to have their 15min of fun, they'd soon get bored and leave, and if not, we could retake as easily as they take.
I'm unsure about the draft constitution and how it balances powers, and you are right that all it takes is one person to ignore it and the system collapses. What is reliable is trustworthy individuals and their promises rather than sweeping laws that we expect people to follow.