• Idea: The Unofficial Official Government of China •
Flem inc
We all know that Iran and Indonesia are not here to help China but to protect their own sorry ***es and rather than asking for our help (which we would have given them), they decided it would be better to just overrule us. So now they own our Official government and can make official laws and such.
Sadly, we cannot beat Indonesia or Iran in a game of votes, so we aren't going to magically win a majority on the 25th to take Congress.
They also probably wont go away because they have a vested interest in China and our ability to form a "Great Wall" (pun!)
Good news, They sort of need China to exist, so on that front we're doing pretty good, they still overrule us.
So I propose that we make an Unofficial Government regime that will have a President, Vice President, and Economic manager (and others if you want). These people will be known Chinese leaders who support China, not just Peace.
Opinions will be heard by all and we will vote for our unofficial President (Votes will only count from Chinese PP's and not Indo/Iran).
This government will WORK WITH Iran and Indonesia to make sure that they don't step on toes. I say work with because we aren't going to kick them out and should do our best to befriend them rather than just harass them.
I'd also like to see Logo release the Bank of China to the President so we may still operate with our own funds.
Modelcon, Laffo, and others can discuss variations if they please and I think one of those two should be Pres.
So consider the idea so we can keep a Chinese government.
*** IMPORTANT ***
I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE ALL BUSINESS OWNERS TO BUY/SELL ON THE BLACK MARKET AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE! If you have questions on how to do that, ask me, but it's basically posting offers at 0.01 CNY, buying them, donating them, and receiving donations as payment. This way we wont pay taxes to a government that hasn't announced what it's doing (They fail at leading not because they are Iran/Indo, but because they don't bother to let us know what is going on).
*** At our new Government ***
Sorry. We don't like you. We don't trust you. So we don't want to be a part of you and your project. You don't keep us in the loop with what you're up to so we assume it's no good. I think we can get along though, you just need to open your yappers and tell us what's going on so we can work our problems out.
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I will sign on with this government.
I will sign on as well
Long live independant China! Defeat the imperialist pigs! Create a China for the Chinese and our friends! Drive out the invaders!
oooh a Government in exile that isn't in exile...hehe
As I said before, I believe immigration and spreading the word about how great eChina is is a neutral position...one that I do normally almost any day. So, its not needed in an unofficial government...but I am always willing to help bring in new immigrants for who ever is running things (officially or not)
So I always ask real Chinese to communicate in Chinese. Otherwise, how to recognize them?
Group it into party is more organized rather than giving a name as unofficial government.
i will sign on as well
I will sign on to this.
Fleming, talk to Modelcon about this. (You will get it once you've talked to him)
@William Lai
对不起,我很少说中文可是我是e中国人。
"In fact, we hope you grow eChina to be 10x bigger and greater"
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/official-statement-772202/1/20
But everyone is just gathering government of exile, that wont solve the problem. When we're trying to open a discussion, many of you wont do it and instead create a government in exile. So how are we going to grow eChina 10x bigger and greater?
"In fact, we hope you grow eChina to be 10x bigger and greater...but until you have been around longer than 2 weeks tops...we are going to be skeptical"
please don't take my words out of context
But as i said, we cant grow it 10x bigger and greater if everyone is doing things like this, like trying to make deal with *cough* to impeach the president.
Signed
i am for this.
I hope Modelcon is willing to take the job of official unofficial eChina president- I believe the part where you say we need to work together while still disagreeing is a vital part of this plan... and well... frankly, I haven't shown myself to be very good at that 😛
@We all know that Iran and Indonesia are not here to help China but
who are eIndonesians? i'm NOT eIndonesians!
You just want to feel happy to see "us" fail.
i tell you guys, you guys just worsening eChina.
You victimize whole eChina only for your bad manners.
Sorry.
eIndonesians are the group who asked other eIndonesians to move to china, vote for mimihitam, and then leave eChina.
If Logo had gotten eUSA to do this, you would be justified in calling it a US takeover of China.
Since it happened with Mimi and Indonesia, Mimi, the leader of the SoM, an Indonesian faction, has taken over.
Modelcon? The one who try to make deal with *cough* to *cough* me? 😛
I assume you're referring to the freedom party, when you say he tried to make a deal with them. If you are, come out and say it.
I had no idea he was planning that, if it is what you are inferring, and I am not sure weather I would support it or not had it been brought to my attention, as I do not know the details.
I however, do have faith in Modelcon, as his reputation in eChina is one of patience. I think the fact that the freedom party is supporting you (via pajmaaan's comments on every article) is more evidence of your takeover, however.
@If Logo had gotten eUSA to do this, you would be justified in calling it a US takeover of China.
i'm not and will not justifying people with faithful commitments and good-will. That's not me. Sorry.
the Khmer Rouge had good will and faithful commitments when they massacred three quarters of Cambodia. Are you saying I would not be justified in calling them 'bad'?
good will and faithful commitments are not all that is necessary. the Cause and the actions you take there are just as important.
They are called the ends and the means.
I do not know the SoM goals for the ends. for all I know, you could legitimately want to help, and stay in, eChina, for no other reason than to see it prosper.
What I do know, is the means you are willing to take to reach whatever goal you have in mind. This includes the take over of a country, using tactics that 90% of erepublik find appalling. It also includes having the party you claimed to be stopping in the first place support your efforts.
for these reasons, in my mind and the minds of many other eChinese 'rebels', the SoM= the Khmer Rouge.
"the Khmer Rouge had good will and faithful commitments when they massacred three quarters of Cambodia. "
massacred? wkwkwkwk, any massacre here? BIG LOL
"good will and faithful commitments are not all that is necessary."
not necessary? without that it wont be so success
"the Cause and the actions you take there are just as important."
you guys act like you're real Chinese, shame on you.
"for these reasons, in my mind and the minds of many other eChinese 'rebels', the SoM= the Khmer Rouge."
irrelevant
Conclusion: you guys acted like you're the owner of eChina, but you all are American, not even born in China, shame on you though.
ya actually...how much did you offer them? they keep trying to donate money....now that they are supporting you, you all vote yes to they proposition?
http://www.erepublik.com/en/organization/1378722
@ekspresi if I am not very much mistaken, there is a certain Orlando Ocean warning that he will do his best to ban us and silence us.
DarthXile, correct. These people are making eChina worse. Making a government in exile, having to move to the black market. Everyone picture them like the Triads... They are corrupt, dark, and miserable.
If you care about eChina, then stop revolting because its going to make things worse. Obviously, if you have clarity in your mind you can figure out that these guys are revolting because they "lost" their power, not because they wanted a better eChina.
So which side are you at? A group of people who consider themselves eChinese and are very power lust? Or a group of people who are dedicated and focused to making eChina a better place?
I'm signing on to this underground government idea as well.
ah another prejudice, their CNY in Iranian bank is even have not reduced yet.
Just @ William: 同志,我是中国人。
@ Ekspresi: I'm more Chinese than you, IRL and in this game. So I wouldn't be talking. The European imperialists oppressed the Chinese people for years before courageous groups such as Yi He Quan were able to stand up to Imperialist Rule and create a truly independant Chinese state. When the Qing Dynasty tried to enforce a law against opium, the British came in and attacked them with their superior military. The Qing had no choice but to cede Xiang Gang and pay massive reparations that drained much of the Dynasty's wealth. The Chinese people never forget these injustices brought upon them.
And if you will keep in mind - the Europeans called the Chinese people who wanted to be free of forgein influence "rebels."
东方红...太阳升...中国驻了个Modelcon
他为人民做贡献...Hu-er-hei 她是我们的大救星!
In Reply To:
Orlando: "These people are making eChina worse. Making a government in exile, having to move to the black market. Everyone picture them like the Triads... They are corrupt, dark, and miserable."
If I do recall, the Nationalists said similar things about the Red Army. And look where the Nationalists got driven to? They're now sitting on that tiny little province where they once used to hold all of China + Outer Mongolia within their grasp. WHY? Because the people knew that the Nationalists were wrong and that the Communists were right.
As far as I can see, The current government represents foreign invaders and imperalists.
This unoffical government represents rebels, but I do have to give a warning. For every successful rebellion that succeeds in freeing a country, there is at least 10 more that causes havoc, chaos, and destructions before being crushed.
@Mimihitam
You make Dear Leader angry as you not happy with your sex. I thought China did not want girls. Dear Leader will bring rand tunder to your pathetic country!
ekspressi is ignoring my points
the point was not the massacre, but the fact that the khmer rouge did what they believed was right. it is fair to disagree with their actions, even though they had good will and commitment in mind.
he took my quote out of context. please reread it.
"good will and faithful commitments are not ALL that is necessary."
I am real eChinese. I am not an american. I was born in ePoland. I came here to make a profit, and to help eChina to prosper. The SoM is using us to accomplish PEACE goals.
@lusianna (yes, all the way up there)
None of us doubt that you support China. It is. . . other people that we are wary of.
Rest assured, these people can only talk, keep talking. I have nothing else to say but to point out that when things get better, it will be the weapon to end this dispute.
@Orlando Ocean by my comment I comment that silencing people and banning them are eRepublik's version of killing and masscreing
Nice initiative there. I support this plan.
"@lusianna (yes, all the way up there)
None of us doubt that you support China. It is. . . other people that we are wary of."
Actually, no. I have doubts.
Can we just settle down these internal conflicts in our forum? it would harm our Chinagrak programs.. none of visitors would like this, imho. Thank you
of course Lusianna. because then, all of the new citizens will support you because there will be noone telling them the truth about your Take Over, and the handing over of Chinese funds to the Iranians.