[HUN] Nyertunk! Mi kovetkezik? / We won! What next?
Zoli
Magyarorszag megtamadta Horvatorszagot! Mindenki harcoljon kemenyen, fegyverrel Nortwest Croatia regioban!
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A tegnap valaki megjegyezte, hogy Magyarorszag szamara nem egy jo jel, ha itthon cikkezem arrol, hogy mit kene tenni, mert altalaban az orszag ahol ezt megtettem bajba keveredett. Szeretnem ha komolyan megvitatnank, hogy merre haladjon Magyarorszag a jovoben.
Az eRepublik egy olyan jatek amelyben nem letezik egy cel amely elerese gyoztest hirdetne . Ennek ellenere vannak orszagok amelyekrol azt mondtak, hogy “megnyertek” a jatekot. Az elso nyertes Romania volt amely felepitette az elso igazi birodalmat. Ok tulzottan a hoditasra es az elnyomasra helyeztek a hangsulyt es ezert meg is buktak. A masodik gyoztes Indonezia amelynek sikerult hossza tavon is megtartani ezt az eredmenyt. Nem nyomtak el a meghoditot orszagokat es felszabaditottak a szamukra nem fontos regiokat. Ok nagy hangsulyt fektettek a gazdasagra is.
Jelen pillanatban Magyarorszag tekintheto a jatek 3.-dik gyoztesenek. Jelenleg Magyarorszag 34 regioval rendelkezik amelyek 3 kontinentesen es 11 orszag teruleten talalhatok – USA, Kanada, Dania, Svajc, Nemetorszag, Ausztria, Ukrajna, Oroszorszag, Kina es Eszak Korea. Az egyeduli kerdes, hogy a romanok vagy az indonezek peldajat fogjuk kovetni. Magyarorszag elore halad, azonban nem tudom, hogy felfele, vagy mar lassan lefele gurulunk.
Mi dontunk a sorsunk felol. Kovethetjuk Romania vagy Indonezia peldajat. A vilag beke nem beke. Ha akarjuk elfoglalhatjuk az osszes ex-Atlantis orszagot es 50 regionk lesz, de mit teszunk onnan tovabb? Ujabb haborukra lesz szuksegunk es akkor a sajat szovetsegesein ellen fordulunk majd? Annak erdekeben, hogy tovabb fejlodjon az orszag, Magyarorszag egy vilag egyensulyt kell kialakitson, egy olyan egyensulyt ahol megis a merleg nyelve a PEACE iranyaba billen.
Szuksegunk van, hogy ismerjuk az iranyt amerre az orszag halad, szukseges, hogy tudjuk miert harcolunk. A belso mocskolodas altalam el nem kepzelt szinteket ert el. Ez azert van mert nincsenek kozos celjaink es mindeki szorakozni probal. Egy jol ismert cel nelkul a napi harc es ugyanolyan rutin mint a napi train es work. Oceanokon tul nem is olyan izgalmas harcolni. Nagyobb hangsulyt kell fektessunk a jatek tarsadalmi es gazdasagi reszere.
Felvazolok nehany dolgot amelyet szerintem meg kell valositani annak erdekeben, hogy megtartsuk nagyhatalmi szerepunket
Ellenseges orszagokkal valo kapcsolatunk
A nagy ero nagy feleloseggel is jar. Meg kell tartsuk a kulcsfontossagu regiokat, de tisztelnunk kell az ellenfelelinket es vissza kell adnunk a kevesbe fontos regiokat. Az elfoglalt orszagoknak csak a becsuletuk maradt es azt nem tudjuk elvenni toluk. Ha nem fogjuk most a legjobb donteseket meghozni akkor a jelenlegi benazasok megbosszuljak magukat a joveben
USA – Megtartjuk Alaskat es visszaadjuk North Dakota, Montana es Washington regiokat
Le kell zarnunk a haborut ameddig nalunk van az elony. Az USA ugyanabban a helyzetben van amelyben mi is voltun amikor a roman legyoztek. Megalazo beketervuket elvetettuk. Nem kene mi is hasonlo hibat elkovessunk. Le kell zarnunk az MPP-ket. 4 honap mulva ha megtamadnak akkor 1 az 1 ellen vedjuk majd Alaszkat.
Kanada – Megtartjuk Nunavut and Manitoba regiokat az eroforrasokert es visszaadjuk Saskatchewan regiot.
Tudom, hogy nincsen aktiv haboru Kanadaval, de tobb regiojukat birtokoljuk, tehat targyalni kell veluk is. Saskatchewant visszadnam, a tobbi meg maradna. Egyezzunk meg veluk is egy 4 honapos bekerol es az eleg ido lesz felkeszulni a jovore.
Eszak Korea – Szabaditsuk fel Hamgyong regiot
Semmilyen eroforras sem talalhato itt, es strategiailag sincsen szerepe. Tudom, hogy valoszinuleg ellenenk fordulnak de ez szukseges az egyensulyhoz. Szeptember 5 utan kell felszabaditani a regiot mert akkor 20 napig nem lesz vezetoseguk, tehat semmi sem tudnak lepni.
Svajc – Ez maceras de vagy felszabaditanam az osszes regiot (Graubunden, Romandie, Svizzera italiana, Deutschsweizvagy olaszoknak adnam.
Targyalni kell a teokratakkal. Elobb vagy utobb ugyis lesz allamuk, es inkabb bekes legyen a kapcsolat veluk.
Kapcsolat semleges orszagokkal
A semleges orszagokat a PEACE oldalara kell hozni. Ezt diplomatikus uton kell elerjuk, nem fenyegetessel es ero bevetesevel.
Dania – megtartjuk mindket regiot: Nordjylland es Syddanmark
Nincsenek eroforrasok de strategiailag fontosak szamunkra. A danok megkertek, hogy tarsuk meg oket.
Kina – megtartjuk Heilongjiang regiot
Ez szamunkra a high iron regiot tehat ezt meg kell tartani. Ha majd a jovoben naluk is lesz baby boom meglatjuk mit teszunk, keresunk egy ujabb regiot vagy harcolunk ezert a regioert.
Kapcsolat barat es PEACE orszagokkal
A PEACE-t es a PEACE orszagokat meg kell erositsuk. Segitenunk kell a szovetsegeseinknek, hogy high regiokat szerezzenek.
Oroszorszag – Vissza kell adjuk North Caucasust
41 oil ceg van itt, amelybol maximm 11 aktiv (5 vagy tobb alkalmazott). Gazdasagi szempontbol ezt a regiot helyettesitjuk Alaszkaval. Szerintem oroszok kene fizzessek a korhaz es a favar arat (600 GOLD) mi pedig fizetjuk az RW megnyitasat es az allam kifizeti az orosz licensz megvasarlasanak a koltseget a cegek szamara.
Ukrajna – Siveria es Dnipro regiokat visszaadjuk
Ez egy eleg kockazatos lepes mivel Romanianak meg mindig faj a foga Podoliara. Ma megszerzik erdekesebb lesz a jatek es kezdodhet ujbol a taktikazas es a harc. Figyelembe veve a TO veszelyt ajanlom, hogy szeptember 25 utan adjuk vissza miutan lejarnak a kongresszusi valasztasok.
Nemetorszag – Visszaadjuk Baden-Wurttemberg, Lower Saxony, North Rhine-Westphalia, Rhineland-Palatinate, Saxony-Anhalt, Schleswig-Holstein, Thuringia regioakt es megtartjuk Hesse-t.
Az utobbi 3 honapban 2szer mentettuk meg a nemeteket. Amiutan visszaveszik az uralmat a kongresszus felett visszaadjuk a regiokat. Hesse marad nalunk, mert strategiailag jo az elhelyezese.
Ausztria – Megtartjuk Burgenlandot
Gazdasag
Mivel a gazdasagi modul tavolrol sem tokeletes tultermelesi problemak fognak felmerulni. A jatekosok egyre tobbet fognak gyartani es ezt nem tudja ellensulyozni az uj jatekosok belepese sem. A haboruk serkentik a gazdasagot, de most a legnagyobb haboru alatt is sok fegyvergyarto panaszkodik, hogy nem tudja eladni termekeit. Kepzeljetek el mi lesz amikor lejar a haboru – a gazdasag osszeomlik
Annak erdekeben, hogy csokkentsuk a tultermeles a minosegre kell helyezzuk a hangsulyt. A magasabb skillu jatekosok olyan cegekben kell dolgozzanak amelyek jobb minosegu termekekeket allitanak elo.
Skill 0 – 2 -> Q1 Ceg
Skill 2 – 4 -> Q2 Ceg
Skill 4 – 6 -> Q3 Ceg
Skill 6 es felette -> Q4 vagy Q5 Ceg
A land cegek eseteben az allamnak tamogatnia kell a Q1-rol Q2-re es a Q2-rol Q3-ra torteno fejlesztes koltsegenek 50%-at. Ugyancsak a land cegek eseteben az allamnak 50%-al tamogatni kell az export licenszek megvasarlasat olyan szovetseges piacokra amelyek nem rendelkeznek az illeto nyersanyaggal.
Mindezzel parhuzamosan az allam egy 10.000 GOLD-os tartalekot kell kepezzen.
Hadsereg es haboruk
Mivel sok jatekost foleg a haborus modul vonz es mivel harcok nelkul a gazdasag is meginog, szukseges, hogy harcoljunk majdnem allando jelleggel.
15 napig RW-kben harcolhatunk mikorzben felszabaditjuk a szamunkra felesleges regiokat . Kozben fegyvereket es aranyat tartalekolunk.
Az elkovetkezo 30-60 nap soran megtamadnam Horvatorszagot. Szorakoznank es visszafizetnenk amit az olaszokkal tettek. Ez segitene a szerb szovetsegeseinknek is hogy elerjenek addig a regioig ahol vas talalhato es amelyet meg akarnak szerezni.
A horvatokkal harcolni ugyanolyan kemeny lesz mint a romanokkal mert egyforma MPP-kel rendelkeznek.
Politikai elet
Mar nagyon szeretnem ha partprogramokon vitatkoznank es nem a sarat dobalnank egymas ellen. A tegnap valaki azt mondta, hogy olyan embert kell megvalasztani aki nem kivanja a hatalmat. Teljes mertekben egyetertek, mivel jelen pillanantban olyan vezetokre van szukseg akik az orszag erdekeit kovessek es ne a hatalmon maradas legyen a fo celkituzesuk.
Tarsadalmi elet
Sajnos itt nagyon sok otletem nincsen, de fell kell porgessuk ezen a teren a dolgokat.
Magan kezdemenyezesek
Kiemelek 2 programot:
Ludovika Program – tehetosebb jatekosok naponta 2 Q1-es fegyvert adnak fegyverhordozojuknak mig ezek elerik a Colonel rangot. Jelen pillanatban tobb mint 40 ember reszesul tamogatasban.
Utolso Vedelmi Vonal – Szerintem ezt mind ismeritek. Amint a neve is tukrozi ez az utolso tartalek amelyhez az orszag nyul ha megtamadjak. Majdnem 400 GOLD gyult ossze. Tamogassuk lehetoseg szerint, barmekkora osszeg szamit – penzadomanyt ide kuldjetek .
Rovidtavu celkent a jelenleg aktiv haboruk es foglalt regio helyzetenek a tisztazasat latom..
Kozeptavon megerositenem a gazdasagot es haborut nyitnek egy szomszedos orszaggal.
Hosszu tavon celokra varom a javaslatokat.
Mi dontunk a sorsunk felol. Meg kell ertsuk, hogy a nagy hatalom nagy felelosseggel jar egyutt. Remelem, hogy ugy mi mint polgarok, mint a Magyar Kormany a legjobb donteseket fogja hozni. Azt akarom, hogy 12 honap mulva is meg mindig nyertesek legyunk. Tolunk fugg az egesz.
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Yesterday I received an interesting comment to my article. Somebody said it is a bad sign that if I start writing articles about Hungary and what should it do. In any case I would like to start a debate to see in which direction should the country go from this point on.
eRepublik is a game with no final goal, which could declare a country a winner. But still we have countries which can be declared winners. Romania was the first real winner in this game. They built a great empire, the first really big empire. But they were too focused on conquest and oppression, so they have fallen. The second winner and big empire that appeared in the game was and still is Indonesia. They have succeeded in keeping a good relation with population of the occupied regions, they have freed regions which did not provide any resources nor had no strategic importance, and they have focused on economy.
Hungary can be considered the third big empire and winner of eRepublik. Currently Hungary has 34 regions spanning across 3 continents and 11 countries – it has regions from Canada, USA, Denmark, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Ukraine, Russia, China and North Korea. The only question is if Hungary will learn from Romania or Indonesia. Hungary is going forward, but none of us know if it still goes up-hill or if it is on a downward slope.
We will decide our fate. We can follow the example of Romania or the example of Indonesia. In my humble opinion world PEACE is not peace. We can take out all ex-Atlantis countries and rule over 50 regions, it is feasible, but what then? In need for new wars will we turn against our own allies? I believe that in order to be able to grow, Hungary needs to maintain a certain balance of power in the word, but keep the edge for PEACE.
We need a direction, we need to know what are we fighting for; we need to know the direction the country is going. Internal bickering has reached unseen heights ; many times the shit hit the fan. This happened because people do not have a goal, the try to find something to do that is fun. This is why people are PTO-ing opponent parties; this is why so many attacks appeared in the press. Without a goal the daily fighting has become such a routine like working and training. Fighting in battles across the sea is not that fun anymore. We need to put more weight on the social and economic side of this game.
I will draw up a few measures that I believe Hungary would need to take in order to maintain and increase its super power status.
Relation with opponents and conquered regions
Great power comes with great responsibility. We must keep the key regions, but we need to respect our enemies and give back them the regions that belonged to them and that strategically have no importance to us. We must remember that all the conquered countries have left is their pride and we can never take that away. If we do not act now our incapability to take the best decision will come back to haunt us and bite as in the ass in the future.
USA – we need to keep Alaska and give back North Dakota, Montana and Washington
I believe we must end this war as long as we have the upper hand. The USA is in the same position as Hungary was in the war with Romania. Remember that they had a humiliating peace offer that we have rejected. We should not make the same mistake. We need to close the war and close all active MPPs from this war. We will get 4 months to build a fortress in Alaska and after that we will fight if needed one on one for that region.
Canada – we need to keep Nunavut and Manitoba for their resources and must give back Saskatchewan.
I know that we have no active war with Canada, but we must still negotiate with them as long as we took 3 of their regions. We must keep the valuable ones and give them back Saskatchewan. We must negotiate a 4 months NAP. Enough time for all sides to prepare for the future.
North Korea – we should liberate Hamgyong
This region has no resource and no strategic importance. I know it would probably put back on the map a country that will again ally with our opponents, but as I told before we need to keep a certain balance of powers in the world. This move must be made after the 5th of September when they’ll have no President or Congress, so at least for 20 days they are not going to be able to do anything.
Switzerland – this is tricky, but I would liberate the entire country (Graubunden, Romandie, Svizzera italiana, Deutschsweiz) or give all regions to Italy
Terms and conditions should be discussed with the Theocrats.
Relations with neutral countries and land taken from them
We must try to focus and attract neutral countries to join PEACE. We must do it through diplomacy and not through force.
Denmark – we need to keep Nordjylland and Syddanmark
This region has no resources, but it has a high strategic value. As Denmark signaled us that they would like us to keep the region this is an easy one.
China – we need to keep Heilongjiang
This is the high iron region of Hungary so this is a must keep. As long as the number of real Chinese people this game is negligible, we must keep it. If in the future they’ll have a baby boom similar to that of Russia we must look for other high iron regions.
Relations with friendly and PEACE countries and territorial claims
We need to keep these ties really close. We must work on making PEACE and PEACE countries stronger. We must work on getting as many high resource regions for our allies as we can.
Russia – we must give back North Caucasus
We must give this region back to Russia. There are 41 oil companies here, but only 11 seem to be active (5 employees or more). From an economical perspective this will have no real influence on Hungary, as oil can be produced in Alaska. In my opinion a fair deal would be for Russia to pay the cost of the hospital and defense system (600 GOLD in total) while Hungary would start the RW and pay the Russian license for oil companies that are located there.
Ukraine – Siveria and Dnipro must be given back to Ukraine
This action carries a high risk as a Romanian PTO in Ukraine could lead to the loss of Podolia by Ukraine. In this case we must use brute force to get it back from Romania. It would be a difficult operation but I am for challenges. In any case I would give back Dnipro only after the 25th of September after there is certainty that Romania did not PTO Ukraine.
Germany – we need to give back Baden-Wurttemberg, Lower Saxony, North Rhine-Westphalia, Rhineland-Palatinate, Saxony-Anhalt, Schleswig-Holstein, Thuringia and keep Hesse.
As history has proved us, in the last 3 months Hungary saved Germany twice. After they take back control of Congress these regions will go back to them. We need to keep Hesse as it was the only way to help in case of further attacks.
Austria – Hungary will keep Burgenland
Economy
Due to the economic module we will face over production. The skill of players rises faster then the population so this leads to over production. Usually during wars demand rises, but right now when we are in the middle of the greatest world war even some weapon producers struggle to sell what thy produce. After this war ends the world economy will come crashing down.
In order to stop this over production we must focus on quality rather then quantity. This means that people with higher skill will need to work in companies which produce higher quality products.
Skill 0 – 2 -> Q1 Company
Skill 2 – 4 -> Q2 Company
Skill 4 – 6 -> Q3 Company
Skill 6 or above -> Q4 or Q5 company
In the mean time the state should give grants that would cover 50% of the upgrade cost of land companies from Q1 to Q2 and from Q2 to Q3.
In order to decrease the pressure on the local market the state should give grants for land companies to cover 50% of export license to ally countries that lack those resources.
The state would need to create GOLD reserves, which should amount to at least 10.000 GOLD.
Army and wars
Because most players are interested in the war module and because the economy depends on the war module we still need wars and to fight.
For around 15 days we could solve this by starting RWs in regions that should be given back to their original owners. During that we need to stock weapons and gold, so we can start new wars.
I would say that in the next 30 to 60 days our target should be Croatia. This war would be about LULZ and payback for what they did. By this move we could help out ally Serbia in reaching one of their goals (I will not be more specific here as most of you know what they want and where they need to get).
I would not attack Romania as it would generate too much RL hatred. Croatia through its MPPs is as strong as Romania so it will be fight to remember.
Political life
I have not seen real platforms for quite a while. We need to get back to our roots, to the days of political debates based on political values not on mud throwing.
Yesterday somebody made a good point. We should give power in the hands of people who not desire power! This way we can have people who would work in the interest of the country and not in the interest of keeping power.
Social life
I do not have many ideas about what to do, but we need to spice it up!
Public Private Partnerships
There are 2 great private initiatives:
The Ludovika Program – wealthier players receive a padawan and they must give them 2 weapons each day. This is great and should be extended
The Last Line of Defense (Utolso Vedelmi Vonal) – it is a private fundraiser and they will use the funds only if the country is under attack in an original region and if the President asks for their help. They have gathered almost 400 GOLD already. You can help them by donating any currency here .
My long term plans are to make some order in our conquered regions.
The medium term plans are to make the economy stronger and start a war closer to us.
The long term plans. Well here I run out of inspiration so I would like you to share with us what you think our long term goals should be.
We are the masters of our destiny. We must understand that great power comes with great responsibility. I hope that we as Hungarian citizens and that the Hungarian Government will take the best decision. I want to see Hungary as a winner in 12 months too. It is in our hands to succeed.
Comments
Nagyon precíz. Vote.
Play rolegames like build 1000 Q5-hospitals and declare it a spaceship.
Hungary first spaceship of new world, sounds pretty awesome, right?
great big vote
Yes, you have learned well.
Megprobalom leforditani de az meg kb. 2 ora mert munkaban vagyok. Legkesobb holnap reggelre meglesz a magyar valtozata is.
I'll try to provide a Hungarian translation too, but right now I am way to busy.
Beginners guide to Erepublik:
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Business guide for beginners:
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How to import rawmaterials off the market:
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Very good article,with one problem.Don't liberate Svizzeria italiana,my weapon company is there and i want to remain in Hungary not in Swiss😛.
And Romania,you should liberate Dnipro 🙂!
meow
very good thinking, great vote for you Zoli
You guys are going down, in four months we'll be in Budapest,
eUSA
"Great power comes with great responsibility." - Uncle Ben 😃 ?
@Gomboc - for extremist people to be happy
"Terms and conditions should be discussed with the Theocrats."
eHungary doesn't deal with eTerrorists....
"Austria – Hungary will keep Burgenland"
For what??!!!
Last time I checked eAustria is a member of PEACE GC.
So we are keeping regions of our allies permanently?
What is win anyway? And what is lose?
Azért fura hogy először angolul dobtad ki és magyar "fordítást" készítesz hozzá 🙂.
Részemről tlejesen egyetértek kivéve a kínai dologba. Ha lesz 10 ezer kínai akkor se adjuk vissza. 1 hogy nincs másik, kettő hogy ez egy háborús játék is ahol a legértékesebb dolog a high iron. Ha már világhatalom vagyunk had ragaszkodjunk pár fontos régióhoz.
I prepare an e-nuke for you ....After they are no winers and no losers
and What is Nico without Sianipar, PEACE without War, Zoli without Cluj?
az van, hogy long term planként senkinek sincs szerintem más ötlete, mint Nagy-Magyarország létrehozása, ha csak rövid időre is.
vagy pedig össze kell balhézni a szövetségeseinkkel.
Michael Marn:
I would like to see that. You had nothing but your big voice for month and some of you didnt learned that its not enough against military. Wall dont fall or rise becouse of words 🙂.
From this war USA should have learned to realise its capacities and work on to grow stronger. Fanatic words like your dont help your country. Like they didnt helped before the war started. You had month to prepair for the war but you did nothing except saying big word how strong are you.
Hungary isn't at war with the eUSA.
Zoli, we all know that today's eRomania is just a shadow of its former self, however you cannot compare it now with eHungary when you have been conquered last year.
You say that the reason for not conquering us stems from higher moral values, I say that you are aware that we could prove a deadly bite for your empire. Could you picture the two communities having the same media nowadays? It would get really messy and would make a lot of moderate players drop the game.
Zoli, viccen kívül indulnod kéne elnökként..
jó cikk de örülnék neki ha a legtöbben a magyarok lennének az eWorldben😃
sebahmah LOL...Cluj 😃😃😃😃😃😃 Kolozsvár 🙂
Social life plans:
1) Recruit/Introudce more women into the game
2) Introduce ewomen into the game -> Random +1/-1 wellness per day
3) Organise more irl parties wait no, too much geekdom
4) ???
5) Profit!
Milyen nyomorék nevet adtatok sebahmah az elrabolt magyar városoknak...
Cluj is also the name in English...why so edgy dude?
Zoli, will you fight against Hungary if Romania will be attacked by it?
Zoli, always sharp minded 🙂
I agree to attack Croatia. Nice article.
Mihu: Cluj is only your "daco-roman" fantasy name 😉
@iber.pl you were faster...🙁 I wanted to say it! 😃
Nagy hatalom nagy felelőséggel jár...
Amúgy Vote és Zoli for President!!!
Zoli: 1 region isn't going to make extremists happy, you know that 🙂
They want it all... and that's a big problem... fortunately they are in minority, for now at least.
Hahaha, you are talking about Napoca. Get your names straight. Cluj comes from the Hungarian "Kolozs".
And since when are you a historian? I'll believe you if you show me a diploma.
HUN-Cimbye man, you are so frustrated, naming cities from other countries..lol
Cluj is Romania, was, will be. so get it over.. don't cry
and btw:
At least i was able to say Budapest! Romania! 😛
u will never say Bucharest! Hungary!
thus we are more "winner" than you 😛
@Mihu Copilu please ignore Hun-Cimbye. We have already learned to ignore him.
i miss your articles last few days 🙂
Ma zoli fiom in continuare trebuie sa stringe-ti tare din buci ca sa nu va intre rau morcovul...
good point zoli.
if eromania will ever come back riding on the big horse, will need inteligent players like you.
"What next?"
Hát a spanyol aranyból - ha még nem kampányolták szét hülyeségekre - zúzzuk le a térképről kedves román szomszédainkat. Hogy miért? Mert eSvájc vagy eKanada eltüntetése a kutyát se érdekli. Az embereknek show kell, hogy itt maradjanak játszani! De nem epolitikai mert az szánalomtenger.
Ha már ilyen IRL-es indokokkal adogatjuk vissza a területeinket, akkor IRL indok miatt is lehet elfoglalni!
Don't fight morons over history you will only succeed in dumbing down to their level.
Thanks for the tip Zoli...anyway in the last few days I've learned that the most fervent revisionist opinions come from people who have never been to Transylvania (let alone live there).
It's easier to hate something you don't know. Anyway my previous comment was 100% erep related. The conquest of Romania will also hurt the Hungarian community really badly...imagine the flame wars...
Zoli for president!!!
Every one of us wants to destroy eRomania, the difference is that extremists want it immediately while the others know that we need to wait for the right moment, but when it comes we will show no mercy to them, we'll destroy all their hospitals, defense systems, ruin their economy, erase them totally from the map, and after that we gloat 🙂 it will be Gloat Fest 2009 😃 I already bought the cake 😃
"Hungary will keep Burgenland"
Of course. You're original booty. Your original sin.
I agree, don't fight over IRL History, better make eHistory, like conquering the USA, Canada, and next Romania and Croatia 🙂.
Without commenting in detail what you are proposing in respect to which land to keep and which land to give back, I agree to the point that we cannot see this as what is the maximum we can get from this war to a perspective of how do you want the eworld to look like after the war and how we want to be seen by the rest of the eworld. I only would shift the starting point from eHungary to PEACE as an all.
The 2 reasons why we started the war were the following:
1 – Mitigate the threat eUSA represented to PEACE
2 – Teach a lesson on humility
Objective 1 was achieved probably even more completely than we expected
Objective 2 was partially achieved. A lot of influential eUSA citizens change their perspective of eWorld after this was. The ones than did not understand our message, will never be able to understand, consequently continuing the war will not allow us to achieve much more.
War objectives are important (also in RL) and if we want to be true to our objectives we should now sign a fair peace treaty and conclude this stage of the game.
In my opinion the peace treaty that is being proposed to the eUSA is fair but incomplete. We cannot close a war and just continue other wars with other ex-Atlantis countries. The peace treaty should include or be linked with separate agreements with at least eCanada and eSpain (the theocracy issue is different and should be addressed but at a different level and North Korea is not really important to no one except for eUSA).
Other point is that we cannot discuss this agreement was separate parts, we have to reach internal consensus and then discuss the terms of the agreement. Be as coordinated in diplomacy as we have been in war.
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A békevonalat én is támogatnám: sztem olyan béke kell, ami számukra (amcsik) rossz, DE azért van esélyük (ha kisebb és nehéz is) a visszatérésre.Kanada úgy tudom, hogy nem hajlandó még tárgyalni sem a békéről.
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