[From France] Can we at least know why???
Bloody Valentine
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Hi eRepublik,
The conflict between the France and Spain has degenerated into a huge global battlefield.
The invasion was not made by only one country ... Spain has been helped by its allies in its attacks, which is understandable since it is the goal of an alliance.
Second, Poland has come to occupy our territories.
Without money, with a weak and divided country, we obviously accepted help from outside, PHOENIX, represented mainly by the United Kingdom. How our country of average strength could claim to regain his lands against 2 of the greatest nations of the game?
Then EDEN intervened in its entirety by openly declaring war to France, through the U.S. in particular, although all the other countries of the alliance also took part in the conflict. However, in my memory, our relations were quite correct, it is still a few weeks ago. We had signed peace treaties with Canada and the U.S. (indeed, it was several months ago). No discord seemed to oppose with other nations and we declared officially neutral and defensive through the creation of the Entente.
When I see the world map today, I wonder what EDEN can find so special in our country to deploy as many forces and even fierceness (I think it's the right word) . We have some High areas but far from being the richest in the game ..
Of course EDEN helps Spain to retain his conquests, which is understandable.
But is it really necessary to assemble a whole alliance to achieve this?
So, it is certainly a well-founded reason to explain such massive attacks on a country that is not an enemy openly but also even to build them a new one!
During a war, the least we can do is to have a pretext to provide an objective. Here, it seems not economic or even strategic (I know nothing about military tactics in this game) or even historic ... explanation would at least be welcome. I mean, official details if possible.
France is the theater of a pityless war, CAN WE AT LEAST KNOW WHY???
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FRENCH
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Concitoyens, cet article ressemble beaucoup au précédent.
Cependant, il a été écrit afin d'obtenir quelques éclaircissements. Sans visibilité dans les pays dans lesquels il a été publié, nous ne pouvons pas espérer de réponse sérieuse. C'est pourquoi je vous demande très sincèrement de VOTER et faire circuler ce papier, si vous en percevez l'objectif voulu.
Je vous en remercie d'avance.
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Bonsoir eRepublik,
Le conflit qui opposait la France à l'Espagne a dégénéré en un gigantesque champ de bataille mondial.
L'invasion ne s'est pas faite que par un seul pays... L'Espagne a été aidée par ses alliés lors de ses attaques, ce qui peut se comprendre puisque c'est le but d'une alliance.
Ensuite, la Pologne est venue occuper nos territoires.
Sans argent, avec un pays faible et divisé, nous avons évidemment accepté l'aide venue de l'extérieur, à savoir PHOENIX, représentée principalement par le Royaume Uni. Comment notre pays de force moyenne peut-il prétendre à reconquérir ses terres face à 2 des plus grandes nations du jeu?
C'est alors qu'EDEN est intervenue dans son intégralité en déclarant ouvertement une guerre à la France, par le biais des USA notamment, bien que tous les autres pays de l'alliance prennent aussi part au conflit. Cependant, dans mon souvenir, nos relations étaient plutôt correctes il-y-a encore quelques semaines. Nous avions signé des traités de paix avec le Canada et les USA (certes, il-y-a plusieurs mois). Aucune discorde ne semblait nous opposer avec d'autres nations et nous nous déclarions officiellement neutres et défensifs grâce à la création de l'Entente.
Quand je vois la carte du monde aujourd'hui, je me demande bien ce qu'EDEN trouve alors de si particulier à notre pays pour y déployer autant de forces et même d'acharnement (je pense que c'est le mot qui convient). Nous avons quelques régions High mais loin d'être les plus riches du jeu...
Certes, EDEN aide l'Espagne à conserver ses conquêtes, ce qui peut se comprendre.
Mais est-il vraiment nécessaire de réunir une alliance complète pour y parvenir?
Alors, il-y-a certainement une raison bien fondée pour expliquer ces attaques massives, sur un pays qui n'est ouvertement pas un ennemi et même, de s'en constituer un nouveau!
Lors d'une guerre, la moindre des choses est d'avoir un prétexte, un objectif à fournir. Ici, il ne semble pas économique, ni même stratégique (je n'y connais rien en tactique militaire dans ce jeu) ou bien encore historique... des explications seraient au moins les bienvenues. Je veux dire par là, des précisions officielles si possible.
La France est le théâtre d'une guerre sans merci, peut-on au moins savoir pourquoi?
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c'est parce que c'est des tafioles
to give polish babies a toy named france
Cause although today France "claims" to be a peaceful, neutral country in the past its actions where far from peaceful, France with PEACE help, mercilessly beat Spain into submission then fought in every north american battle during WWII. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. France getting conquered is just the consequences its past actions have brough upon itself. Do i agree with france getting invaded? no, does most of US, no. But Spain does, the same way we want england, Spain wants france, so together we stand.
EDENMAXXXX
BV.. vouz avez apellez votre alliance nous appellons notre alliance. en peux pas lutter contre toute phoenix nous seuls.
pretty simple, without you, the UK would be easier to kill off. Once you and the UK are gone, EDEN will have all of western europe
So mi lyfe ys average, for you a peace treaty has no meaning?
Please... tell us and tell the rest of eRepublik!
C'est la vie.
si vis pacem parabellum. war is unavoidable, so prepare to fight. choose allies you can trust on. not like UK. but dont worry. we will seek to destroy them. we are making you a favor.
Ingo Castilho :
Past actions? Not France attacked you, you and your allies attacked France in Operation French Toast, and later France attacked back with those MPPs. You can't justify an action with a war you started and not France. Anyway it's just a game, why do you try to justify all your actions, why do you need to pretend to be saints?
My answer to the article's writer's question is that this game is mainly about wars, that's why you were attacked, EDEN guys wanted a little fun, it's fun for everyone, you won't die if you are conquered and you can free your land later, if you fail.
Zabalint
Anyway USA and France signed peace after the last French-USA war(started by USA), so that's another reason that you can't justify your attack. But again I say, you don't need to justify anything, it's just a game.
Faut pas se plaindre, des wargames gratos à la maison. Que du bonheur !
@Zabalint, no the US lost the French American war. The peace treaty was an end to world war II where France agressed against the US to gain revenge for the American attacks against France. Spain, useing the same justification, opened a war that the eUS never want. That is why we gave up the mpp's you activated.
Unfortunately events have conspired to drag us into the fight. We don't want your regions, we don't want to punish you, but spain is our ally, and we are afraid that you could thwart our war with Phoenix.
@Aurelius Ambrosius: For a long time, we (the eFrench people) were questioning PEACE's (and later PHOENIX's) objectives and actions. That's why we eventually seceded, and ENTENTE came to be.
You have to admit, though, this unilateral assault from EDEN is pushing us back towards PHOENIX…
hehe
eFrenchies begging for mercy. Music for my ears? 😁
Remember you guys not long ago went into a total annihilation berserk against eSpain. As bricktop said in Snatch:
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"😉o you know what "nemesis" means? A righteous infliction of retribution manifested by an appropriate agent. Personified in this case by an 'orrible ****... me"
The only reason is revenge and the quest that some spanish players are doing in order to find the best way to keep control of the power in eSpain .
Unfortunately, rigth now there is not place for casus belli in this war.
This attack was predictible.... Some months ago, France and Spain were in war, almost signed a peace treaty, but french congress refused it. PEACEgc asked us to attack USA, and french congress said "Yes ! Go !".
So, yes, Spain and USA are trying to destroy us, and I understand them. But we'll fight.
By the way, yes, this war is pushing France and the Entente in PHOENIX arms.... Sadly, because I hope France, Spain and USA will be in peace one day...
Le Fú, Le FAIL.
-dsniper1976: "eFrenchies begging for mercy"
> If you don't understand English, don't try to answer please.
-pechorin: "The only reason is revenge"
> Revenge? Revenge of what? Of our invasion on your territories? Lies! THAT was our revenge of French Toast, remember?
Unfortunately I do not get a definite and official answer. However, I notice, one more time, that the trolls are so tiring! This game starts to be painful
-My mife is average: "pretty simple, without you, the UK would be easier to kill off"
> lol
What can we see?
Spain and the USA sing beautiful words and then, betray. It is only a game for them, The game of the strategy of the treason.. Never believe what they say.
They lie even to their alliance which is an alliance of defence.
Rumanian a little saw it in passing.
Efrance didn't want attacked in past to be faithful to peace, a defensive alliance.. USA has a short memory and they are not honest. That's all. I lost the respect which I had for these countries. The glory can buy even the reason of the wisest.
Eden for me it's now : USA + Spain and all their puppets.
Have a nice day men 😁
L'acharnement est pour moi du à l'IRL
Les américains n'on pas pu nous blairer car nouus sommes le pays le plus anti-américain qui soit
We are helping our allies out, end of story.
"Ivan the shepherd sai😛 "Le Fú, Le FAIL.""
Now that's an argument! *Applauds*
@Anyonymous
You are helping your ally destroy a neutral e-country. End of story.
That e-country and many others will follow Phoenix.
To all:
Had you helped your ally if we were invading him, even though we made peace... I would totally understand.
But this.... no.
FUCK AMERICA ;p
Falinfi, lol. Je crois qu'il y'a plus anti-ricains que nous sur terre... 1000000 fois plus...
It's very easy to explain : EDEN doesn't want that the French come and, with the help of PHOENIX, help the British. It's a strategical and important choice for USA, and it's all. They were forced to do that.
The rest is words without senses.
The USA can find many excuses, but my vision of things is, one day, all this is going to damage them.
Reputation of opportunists and dictators. A country which I respected exactly for their freedom and their respect for the small countries.
Revenge of what? they were agressors. OK, we are going to note this word. We always have a return of its bad actions. Never forget it.
The new American diplomacy on the game : the lies.
USA and Spain are allies and friends, so USA helps us to conquer France, and we will help them to conquer UK too, that´s all.
@Caverc: What we're denouncing is USA's untrustworthiness. We signed a peace treaty / non-agression pact, so as to put all past conflicts between our two e-nations behind us… And then they violate their own word! (how twisted is that?)
le fu \o/
Maybe France should have signed peace with Spain when they had the chance...
mi lyfe ys average: yesterday pretty simple, without you, the UK would be easier to kill off. Once you and the UK are gone, EDEN will have all of western europe
have you forgot the portugese are phoenix too?
maybe if france didn't made us so much trouble in the past,this didn't happen
oh stop your whining frenchies! you want us to help or not? maybe we should just bail out and focus our battles on UK instead....sheesh
"maybe if france didn't made us so much trouble in the past,this didn't happen"
In the past... in the past you weren't playing this game. Do you want us to give you some XP points? Maybe you'll rech lvl 17 soon, ebaby...
to see crying French (those who attacked us when we were fighting vs Russia to free our regions) = Priceless
Maybe for the simple reason that you refused to negociate, worked against EDEN's plans, lied to China, lied to USA... enough? and yeah, past is not in the eHistory to be forgotten it's to be remembered.
Isn't the fact we need to erase France because of the MPPs you have enough?
No bad feelings, it's only a game, remember that. When France is erased we may sit down altogether and think about peace.
**** once again, SPANISH MANIPULATION ****
"you refused to negociate"
>>> We refused to negociate, that's a fact. But we've got the right. So, if I understand correctly, if we refuse, Eden invade us? That's right? It sounds like a dictatorship and an imperialist alliance. Isn't it?
"past is not in the eHistory to be forgotten it's to be remembered."
>>> So, USA should remember that we refused to fight against them when Peace wanted to... USA should also remember that we weren't ennemies anymore, we became neutral.
"lied to China,"
>>> Huuu... dude, SPAIN did that. China are friends for us. Do you care about this country? EDEN recently invaded them, remember???
"lied to USA"
>>> By signing peace treaties? Just... just explain because here, I really don't understand!
We deverse what we get, always.
For the record, not all of us Americans wanted war with France. The simple fact of the matter, however, is that Spain was our ally and you were not. Just as you supported your allies attacking us, so too did we need to support our allies.
@Bloody Valentine Yeah, you have the right to accept a negociation or be invaded, that's a fact.
You invaded us, USA remember that.
Your government promised something to China, you betrayed them when you attacked us again.
Your government promised USA to negociate, but your government proposed a joke instead of truth negociation.
Your government is a friend of UK an enemy of EDEN and specially of USA.
Where is that "manipulation"?, cause I see more in your words and cries. Nothing more to say.
You could have surrendered, but no you had to fight to the death. So EDEN is here to finish it because they need Spanish damage elsewhere. That's the reason.