[EUNL]Negotiations with ebelgium
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by Deviltje
Dear readers
As some may know i was Prime Minister(PM) in the last eUNL government, yesterday i was appointed as representative of the new eUNL government for eBelgium affairs. In my new roll i will continue talks and possible negotiations with eBelgium.
The eBelgian government assigned a team for negotiations with the eUNL, this team has 2 members Manong Rizal and Romper. They came with the first proposal of the eBelgium government.
Last Monday evening i have had a long talk with Elynea, the presidente of eBelgium. I proposed to her a counter proposal. The eBelgium keeps the 2 companies and gets 50 gold extra.
This proposal was the same night proposed to the eBelgium congress by Manong Rizal (as he told me) for debating. On friday they started voting on it. (as i was told)
I don't know how the vote is going but when the eBelgians vote against it, the eBelgians should come with a counter proposal.
The negotiation team of eBelgium
As said Manong Rizal and Romper are the ones who are assigned by the eBelgium government for the negotiations. I have talked a lot to them, but when one came into query with me and started that EDEN may attack the eUNL.. not by force but by propaganda as they like eBelgium.. i was really surprised.
He didn't impress me, but why say it as eBelgium wants to be neutral?
So i said to him last night that i don't want to continue negotiations with him. The other accused me/the eUNL for PHX propaganda in neutral eBelgium because i didn't want to negotiate with the other one any more.
I don't know what both were thinking, but the negotiations are going between eBelgium and the eUNL, they are not about the alliances.
As i believe that EDEN and PHX have absolutely nothing to do with this negotiations and both alliances should also not interfere in the negotiations.
I hereby ask the eBelgian government to come with a statement where they state that they are neutral and not will use or agree to any EDEN propaganda towards the eUNL
Deviltje,
Minister of eBelgian Affairs
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And yet another Belgian fiasco.
The vote is ongoing, it will end tomorrow or soon this evening. The new negotiators will publish a counter proposal if Congress votes no.
And also, isn't this quite delayed? Especially when you gave us only 24 hours to make ours? XD
But nonetheless, good job on finally publishing it.
And since I am out of the team, here's my humble and non-official thoughts:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-enl-am-i-in-or-out-no-propaganda--1284393/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-enl[..]/1/20
Garmr 3 minutes ago
And yet another Belgian fiasco.
pliz don't say us that you are a diplomat. I don't like your sarcasm
@Deviltje : i can understand if you want make negociations with a person who is belgian.
BUT MANONG WORKS FOR BELGIUM ! He isn't pro-eden.
You forgot to mention that accusing you about PHX was direct response to you mentioning EDEN. I also followed it with conclusion: "See, anyone can make random accusations?"
Second question is this: Who are you negotiating with since you accepted Belgium negotiation team? In your own words: "Last Monday evening i have had a long talk with Elynea, the presidente of eBelgium. I proposed to her a counter proposal."
Well if Elynea is negotiating and not Manong and I, then go ahead and make proposals to her. This whole issue was not going anywhere until Manong and I stepped in. It seems that you liked it that way and further more it seems you want that situation all over again.
Now, since when NL decides who is negotiating from BE side? Are you going to change Belgium negotiators until you get to talk with someone who accepts your proposal, which is by the way published just now. Since Manong is no longer negotiator, I am also resigning from that position. Elynea, since you took over, it is now your responsibility.
"BUT MANONG WORKS FOR BELGIUM ! He isn't pro-eden. "
He works for a pro-eden Belgium, that's the same 😉
and then alliens let by accident a nuke fall and both eNL and eBE were gone
HAPPY END! 😃
The problem, we can't talk alone about that. The debate must be with the congress. This kind of problem is not simply a conversation on irc. UNL must talk about that with their congress.
The result is not good for UNL, then they said we don't want these negociator. So easy to make that.
The proposition of manong is the only nice one, Because the congress spoke about it before. That's all.
I'm not a puppet for you unl ! Now, the proposition is in the article from manong, we need answers.
@deviltje : i said you, i just put your proposition in congress.
But the congress decided on the proposition which is in the article of manong.
Now, i don't know why you don't want make a discussion with manong, it's a nice person, who represents the congress.
After MaartenW's
Rick Astly - never gonna give you up (erep edit)
will come
Billy Joel - We didn't start the fire (erep edit)
comming soon :3
i don't like play to the game : you said, you don't said...
i don't play with the opinion of the congress in eBelgium. I'm president, ok, but congressmen vote the proposition, i respect the result.
Maartenw : boum !
@ elynea, so tell me why he starts about EDEN in a query?
You don't respect a member who want make real negociations : Manong, i don't agree that. It's a nice person and his interest is Belgium.
so tell me why did he start about Eden in query? eBelgium is neutral
You're the one who accused me of EDEN propaganda. Lol, Im neutral, Belgium is neutral, but EDEN and PHX are involved. So let's be realistic and stop with the "hint" "hint" "hint" or the "classified" "classified" "classified". You all can be critics, but we're not idiots.
So you are basically holding me accountable for being blunt and honest? Hahahahaha. Politics.
@manong rizal, don't drink to much..
@Deviltje, don't worry, I do not drink. 😛
My comment from an other article :
"😉on't make a mess with the fact you're not choose as a trustable negotiators, it can happen... Remember, you have decided that me, the old Begian President wasn't good enough to be Minister in Belgium, and i had to resign... They want good partners, and i can understand that. We are talking about quite much ressources, and if i was eNL, i won't offer to some PTO'ers the ressources of the Belgian people. I don't say you're a PTO'er, you're an Belgian at Heart, but i can understand they don't trust you. They are talking with eBelgium, but them, who have live with eBelgians for a while, don't see any of those belgians in the current governement or the negociators team... They can find it strange, isn't it ? That being said, i'm ofcourse in favor of this negotiations..."
I struggle to find your point
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It is obvious that there are misperceptions, mistrust and legitimate grievances on both sides of this negotiation. Perhaps we should invite in a neutral third nation for some sort of structured mediation?