[EN/ES]Interview with Dmitry Odinets / Entrevista espontanea con Dmitry Odinets
Pura Fruta
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Recently I got in touch with Dmitry Odinets by pm to get as many details as possible about a part of bolivian history in eR. By March of 2010 he and some other ukrainian players had the bolivian cs. By that time the ukrainians, as they recently told me, were here with two challenges. One was to attack eParaguay and give eUkraine a war to be part of by the MPP they had with eParaguay, and the second one will be told by this interview. At the end of this article I may also add some information about what I chatted with Michelle Freebird some days ago.
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As I said, I have to complement this article with what I chatted with Michelle Freebird some days ago, so I'll proceed: She told me that the reason why it was impossible for the ukrainians to PTO us was because we were protected by a rumanian military group called Black Cat Commando (BCC) and by that time rumanians and ukrainians were eEnemies. Now we don't have rumanian back up, but we have argentinian back up as an ATO group since they still play as bolivians but letting our democracy be what we locals want it to be. Our population grew and the argentinians here are a significant number too.
We don't want to repeat the past and let it seem that we're sourrounded by xenophobia and a way of thinking that is closed to a more diversity of choices as the war between AFA and INCI seems to be (at least is what some people wants us to believe). But we want to ensure that the game of Bolivia is in trustworthy hands, so if you as a new bolivian want to proof you are not untrustworthy you should follow our rules to let us clear that you came with good intentions. Somewhen soon you can gain our trust if you do an effort to understand us, so please don't try to achieve goals immediately and instead of that get to know us first. We want people to stay or at least to ensure us a friendship relationship that survives for a long time as we got to have with a lot of players.
If you are against xenophobia please vote this article and help a fair game to prevail and to avoid real grudges and rancor to exist.
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Recientemente me puse en contacto con Dmitry Odinets vía mensaje privado para obtener tantos detalles como pudiera sobre una parte de la historia eBoliviana en eR. Para quien no lo sepa, por marzo del 2010 Dmitry y algunos ucranianos más tenían la ciudadanía eBoliviana. Por aquel entonces los ucranianos, como recién me contaron, se propusieron aquí dos desafíos. Uno era atacar a eParaguay y así darle a eUcrania una guerra en la cual tomar parte a través del MPP que ellos tenían con eParaguay, y el segundo desafío lo daré a conocer con esta entrevista. Al final de este artículo también agregare alguna información explicativa que obtuve de una charla con Michelle Freebird algunos días atrás.
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Como dije a un comienzo, tengo que complementar este artículo con la conversación que tuve con Michelle Freebird días atrás, así que aquí va: Ella me contó que la razón por la cual fue imposible para los ucranianos conseguir PTOvearnos fue porque teníamos la protección de un grupo militar rumano llamado Black Cat Commando (BCC) y para aquel entonces eRumania y eUcrania eran eEnemigos. En estos días no tenemos respaldo ATO rumano, pero si tenemos uno argentino desde que ellos dejaron el TO y empezaron a jugar como eBolivianos, permitiendo a los bolivianos rl y locales que estábamos primero tomar un protagonismo democrático haciendo como en consenso democrático eligiéramos. Nuestra población creció un tanto más que lo que éramos el 2010 y los argentinos que hoy nos apoyan son también un número significativo.
No queremos repetir el pasado y dejar que parezca que estamos rodeados de xenofobia y una manera de pensar cerrada frente a una mayor diversidad de opciones, como lo que la guerra entre INCI y AFA parece ser (o al menos es lo que algunos quieren que creamos que es). Pero en cambio queremos asegurarnos que el juego de eBolivia está en manos confiables, así que si siendo nuevo en eBolivia quieres probar que no debemos desconfiar de ti entonces debes seguir nuestras reglas y respetar nuestras formas para dejarnos en claro que vienes con buenas intenciones. Eventualmente podrás ganar nuestra confianza si te esfuerzas en entendernos, así que por favor no intentes alcanzar metas de manera inmediata y en vez de eso empieza por conocernos. Queremos que quien llegue a eBolivia se quede o por lo menos tengamos por seguro que forjamos una relación de amistad que perviva por un largo tiempo así como lo que logramos con ya varios jugadores.
Si estás en contra de la xenofobia por favor vota y comparte el artículo y ayúdanos así a tener un juego justo y sin rencores o verdaderas rencillas.
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Su problema es que son pocos, y difícilmente si tienen lazos con argentinos los enemigos los veran con buenos ojos. Pero es parte del juego, nada más, y de como se han dado las cosas dentro de el.
Saludos a los bolivianos rl!
i was xenophobic but i got penicillin
DeeDeeeeeeeeeeee
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just ukrainians and romianians wasn't so enemies in that time, it was time of doublereletionships, i mean we wasn't just enemies or friends, its hard to tell, but everybodies had own interests and goals in that friendship and war. its what about eUkraine)...
about eBolivia just a little pity there no much people who can tell this history)
hole, no tiengo amigos...
como hace para tener amigos?
gracias shaos!!! voy a tomar en cuenta tu consejo jejeje!
I used to be a xenophobian like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee (?)
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V+S interesting read
its not xenophobia if these ppl had a TO plan. Why hide behind a "ism" or a "phobia" when your EVIL plans fail? Since you probably could not communicate with them i would not say it was xenophobia more something like natural distance between foreigners. they want to communicate with people of their own culture and language,as well as have ppl in place of their own :how is that xenophobia? there probably wasnt a high number of young players they probly busy with chicas bonitas leading to a...
age gap as well. Aye curambe when they told ya "puto gtfo " you should have listened instead you tried to ramrod them :negative sentiments was justified.
I think you missunderstood the point. I'm not the PTOer here. We, locals, would welcome whoever that really wants to come and help and be part of our community. The message we want to transmit is that if between the new outcomers there is one or a group that wants to join us then we welcome him/them. We are saying that there are ways for them to show themselves as trustworthy people.
Thank you for interview!
Dmitry, Michelle o/
votado+S muy buen articulo PURA FRUTA
@Dmitry only those who wasn't there or don't know the history believe's you.
I remember your action or Ri Andri's or Maniek.
@Pura Fruta if you want a true history ask a RL bolivian. Ask jesusfbo. To bad Ernesto don't play anymore
Tengo la sospecha de que muy pronto seré visa player para lamento de mis eEnemigos que quieren verme fuera de escena. ¿O lo seré ya?
@Guvid: I'm in touch with Ernesto even when he doesn't play. He is still active in our forum. But he hasn't told me anything. However it was, the intention of this article is to give a message to those brazilian and/or serbian PTOers that appeared recently the give reasons to CoT to attack us.