[EDEN] Changes in EDEN (Poland)
Day 736, 18:21
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by Scorpius
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-Changes in the EDEN team-
I come today bearing both good and bad news. First the sad news i suppose. Two of our good friends in the EDEN HQ will be leaving us. Lilla_T, our Military Organizer, and smif, our Economic Organizer have departed from EDEN command.
As Military Organizer Lilla_T helped run the EMC, planned and coordinated a range of operations, and provided a calm and intelligent viewpoint in discussions. A prominent member of the Finland government, he served as MoD for them and was their military advisor over several governments. He possessed a unique aptitude for the military module of erepublik which made him a great leader as well as being a good friend. He will be missed by us all.
smif's job as Economic Organizer was to manage EDEN's finances and improve our financial productivity, among other things, but he was already renowned throughout the eWorld before he joined us. His extensive knowledge of..well...everything was invaluable to our plans, and on a personal note, he personally guided me in getting my first time tanking and getting Battle Hero medal despite my incredibly poor knowledge of the war module. Thats he kind of guy smif is; happy to share his knowledge with anyone who needs it. Like Lilla_T, he will be missed in EDEN HQ.
Yes two of our good friends here in the EDEN team will be leaving us and its a sad event, however now we are going to be getting two great new coworkers to help run the alliance. The two new team members are both highly qualified, and have been accepted by a brotherhood-wide vote.
Che Greco, who will be taking over smif's job of Economic Organizer, is the current president of Greece, one of our brother nations. A common sight in the Allied Forces channel, che's helpful and friendly disposition is well known. Besides president, he has also served as the Minister of Defense for Greece and through his career has managed Greece's ministry of finance organization. His overall knowledge and economic experience are impressive and make him a valuable member of our team.
Fartman, our new Military Organizer, is a highly experienced president of Poland, and is actually our first Polish HQ member. As a former president, he gained a good deal of experience in tactics and military planning, masterminding several wars in Poland. Through his hard work and well thought out strategies, he has become a well respected figure in Poland. These skills make him an invaluable asset to our team as the MO and we look forward to working with him.
Welcome to the team guys!!!
-More News from EDEN Media Dept.-
Since its about time for an update, I'm pleased to announce that the organization and expansion of the EDEN Media Department is moving along swimmingly. Writers from each EDEN country have been joining the staff, and soon we will begin work on a variety of projects which you will see more of in the near future. Stay tuned for more info regarding our many initiatives and as always, keep an eye out in the EDEN papers for important news.
Until next time,
Scorpius, EDEN Media Director
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and nothin about Peru and the whole recent situation=?
looks like this is the first article which wont get my vote
Traktor Tom: Peru situation wasnt related with EDEN. It was deal between Spain, Poland and Argentina. Poland and Spain have released an official article about it.
No need for us to repeat it.
what u think what will happen 5. december when Poland will elect some other president(most likely it will happen cuz as i can see, they dont simpathy their current president)
Looks like this will become an "EDEN issue" when Poland leave EDEN,but then it will be too late...
ps but who am i,just a ordinary citizen...
@Traktor Tom, have you seen who is the new Military Organizer of EDEN?
I think this is clarifier about what EDEN thinks about de Peru conflict.
And I'm totally agree with the decision.
Regards.
lgoretas, in fact a replacement of a military organizer does not explain the issue, it just shows that EDEN command decided to make it up to Poland by letting them have someone in command. It looks like a late excuse or like tossing a bone to a dog just to have it quiet.
we must free Peru. Long live Poland
@Karolina
Isn't Fartman also supporting the PTO though?
@Karolina
You really don't know how these elections happens, so please, do not assume things.
From my point of view, Fartman looks like a good candidate(and winner) after reading his resume. He's especially good considering we'll probably go on the offense soon.
Oh and I've heard people complaining about having no polish representative in the past, the truth is that no one from Poland stepped up and candidated...
One of Peru pTO supporters will be Military Organizer?
Someone should explain fast what is going on.
"Welcome to the team guys!!!"
TOO LATE GUYS! Now when we already said that we don't want to be in EDEN anymore..finally you started to care about Poland...really nice.
sadix you seem to think he was appointed to appease poland. thats not the case. he was picked for his knowledge and experience. plain and simple. dont flatter yourself into thinking EDEN only thinks about poland in its decisions. we think about who would do the best job. In this case the individual was polish. That doesnt mean anything
tell that to Spain, Greece... reorganization dont fix problems.
As Scorpius stated crc / fartman was elected because of his experience. We knew even before Peru conflict that he will be nominated.
If you dont want to be part of EDEN, that is sad to hear. Finland has always defended Poland by every way possible. Most of EDEN countries have been there when Poland had only 1500 citizens. We were there every month.
But hey be a new UK as you wish to do so. EDEN countries were there when UK didnt accept your and swedish plan to defend Germany. UK wasnt and changed side. Now you are doing exactly same. You dont agree with rest of EDEN countries what to do, you get angry, you threat to leave the alliance and you threat to fight against us instead with us.
Next move is yours. Be a UK and leave or be a Poland I remember. One who knew what is best of all of their brothers and forget selfishness.
It's really up to you. I hate to see you leave as I remember many good fights beside Poland, but if that is your decision I wish you well and hope that you dont fail badly as UK did.
And by the way we dont reorganize because of the conflict. This was election day of HQ since 2 months has passed since treaty was signed and had nothing to do with Peru conflict.
Gabriel Lavanche: lol! Comparing Poland to UK will really make things better! Good job!
@Sadix:
Nominacja crc na stratega nie jest wynikiem wydarzeń ostatnich kilku dni. Mieliśmy dostać to stanowisko. I nie, nie rzucają nam ochłapów, żebyśmy nie odeszli. :F
"As a former president, he gained a good deal of experience in tactics and military planning, masterminding several wars in Poland"
Akurat nie wiem czy Fartman jest dobrą osobą na dobrym miejscu, jeśli strategia i taktyka EDENU będą tak prowadzone jak wojna z Niemcami za czasu prezydentury Fartmana to będzie nieciekawie: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-vote-le-prowadzona-wojna-pl-ger-820501/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-vot[..]1/20
Mam nadzieję, że jednak Fartman wyciągnął wnioski z własnych błędów ;p
Swoją drogą, Sadix ma racje. W EDEN się poruszyło więc dali Polaka do HQ. Czego nie potrafili zrobić ŻADNYCH zmian od chwili powstania sojuszu, czyli od ponad pół roku? Mam rozumieć że shoot ma dalej być szefem? Jeśli tak to trochę to dziwne.
pozdr
What CONSEQUENCES will Spain face from EDEN's countries and from the Polish government for breaking the EDEN's agreement? Ultimatum was broken by Argentina and Spain still helped them, instead of helping Peru, what was agreed in the case. This is a betrayal!
Jakie KONSEKWENCJE zostaną wyciągnięte przez polski rząd i rządy krajów EDEN-u wobec Hiszpanii za złamanie oficjalnych ustaleń? Argentyna nie spełniła ultimatum, a mimo to Hiszpania jej pomagała, zamiast pomagać Peru, jak to było uzgodnione, gdyby doszło do takiego przypadku. To zdrada!
Zostało uzgodnione, że w przypadku, jeśli Argentyna nie zastosuje się do ultimatum i nie wstrzyma ognia, WSZYSTKIE kraje sojusz Eden zaangażują się w walkę po stronie Peru. Słowo EDEN-u jest NIC nie warte.
It was agreed that in the case of not ceasing fire by Argentina ALL EDEN countries will fight for Peru. The word of EDEN is worth NOTHING.
"But hey be a new UK as you wish to do so"
"you threat to fight against us instead with us."
Hahahaa 😃 Are you an idiot? That EDEN members fought against US. Spain is dead for me.
Spain is dead for me.
Implying what YOU think,is important
Maybe for Poland government everythins its ok, but its no ok for ePL soldiers
"But hey be a new UK as you wish to do so. EDEN countries were there when UK didnt accept your and swedish plan to defend Germany"
So as Argentina did, they fought against us, as UK is fighting now. Look at USA. vs Russia war. But nobody cares, everybody hates only UK, not Argentina.
Comarcher: I did compare you UK only if you leave the alliance. So don't put words in my mouth. I just state facts that you were against UK's decision and now you are exactly on the same route. You still have a chance to change direction and remember who really have been your friends all the time.
owwik: None did attack Poland and no I'm not idiot. As far as I see Peru was attacked by Argentina. Both countries are non-EDEN and in both countries have handful of EDEN citizens.
Poland and Spain decide, that Argentina is more important than Peru. Simple as that.
The region isn't in Poland and Argentina doesnt have war with Poland. if you trade iron from there to Poland nothing did change for your country. Poland lost nothing.
Borzymir: Spain didnt broke any deals and 24h cease fire was broked by a president who never got a word about that deal and when Brazil started DoW Poland and Spain decided to go for it.
"owwik: None did attack Poland"
Yes, not our territory, but POLISH citizens.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-stats-great-andes-battle-statistics-1049322/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-sta[..]/1/20
miudyk : EDEN didnt have HQ since first 3 months as it wasn't official. sebahmh was the leader back then without real status and he had 5 assistants and it was only cooperation between country presidents and not coordinated alliance.
shoot has been SC now bit over 3months if I calculate right. All HQ positions were refreshed when treaty was signed and none opposed shoot back then.
Yesterday we had new SC, MO and EO elections. shoot was only candidate for SC as I refused to participate elections. 5 of 11 countries nominated shoot in nomination phase and all countries favored shoot. There was 0 objections. With 6 objections SC elections would have been delayed until some of member countries would have point another candidate.
Thats why shoot is continuing as SC.
And again crc was nominated before Peru conflict and majority of EDEN countries favored his nomination before we even voted.
Hopefuly this explained it.
Also you should know already that people in HQ dont represent any country. They work for EDEN before their homeland. So nationality doesnt matter, it's talent which counts.
The region isn't in Poland and Argentina doesnt have war with Poland. if you trade iron from there to Poland nothing did change for your country. Poland lost nothing
really? so why We such angry?
And dont remember for much polish citizens PMG its Poland no Peru or any other country
Gabriel Lavanche:
"cease fire was broked by a president who never got a word about that deal" - he-ha-ha! Don't pull my leg! So EDEN is even unable to deliver and force his own ultimatum?
"Spain didnt broke any deals" - Do not be funny. The OFFICIAL EDEN agreement was: if Argentina not cease fire, then ALL Eden countries will defend Peru. Do you deny?
You proclaimed the ultimatum and then?... Had done NOTHING. No help for Peru, no punishment for Spain helping the other side.
The word of EDEN is worth NOTHING. People in Poland do not trust this pact, because you showed that the interes of Argentina - not a treaty member - is more worth for you than interest of Poland. That the interes of Argentina is worth more than even your own word and honour.
Shame on you.
EDEN don't even say: "Sorry, it's our vault" but want to show "Hey guys, look how nice we are, we give you a place in HQ!"
Borzymir: I dont pull your leg. Argentinan president dint get PM from Argentinian MoD and Spanish president before he attacked, as it was planned that he would continue attack without any break.
Also peruvian president made few weeks ago deal with Argentina, that it is okay that they will conquer all the regions. So who broke that deal?
EDEN didnt give any ultimatum. We promised back Poland and Spain whatever they decide to do. They had way more information than you did and you wold have done same in their position.
Why would we punish Spain as they did what all EDEN countries governments accepted? We didnt ever give ultimatum. We promised to defend Peru if Argentinian president doesnt answer. He answered late. Even his MoD was angry for him, but what was done is done and nothing can change it.
Word of EDEN is worth of everything. I have never backdown my word atleast. I wasnt part of negotiations as they weren't EDEN negotiations, so I dont know from who you got this "ultimatum".
We have a word in Finland for issues that changes when they pass by few persons. Rikkinäinen puhelin - Broken Phone.
Poland had interests in Peru, Spain had interests in Argentina. Both agreed that Argentina is more important than Peru as I pointed earlier.
And as I said earlier. I have never eaten my word and neither I did this time. By the way we gave Argentina word that they will get Great Andes 4 months ago already. Again I kept my word.
"Poland had interests in Peru, Spain had interests in Argentina. Both agreed that Argentina is more important than Peru as I pointed earlier."
Yeah, that's enough. If ex-PEACE country is more important for you, than Poland - one of the biggest EDEN countries, I have nothing more to add.
Just don't call us UK, coz that Spain is traitor, not Poland.
Keep fighting for PEACE.
"EDEN didnt give any ultimatum."
Our President in his last article said that you did. Who's a liar?
Gabriel Lavanche: "EDEN didnt give any ultimatum." "We didnt ever give ultimatum."
Who is the LIAR then?
The newspaper of Polish President, 3 days ago:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/wyja-nie-ws-peru-ci-g-dalszy-1046706/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/wyja[..]1/20
"duże napięcie w EDEN-ie i starano się znaleźć rozwiązanie całego sporu. Argentyna konsekwentnie ignorowała prośby o dołączenie do rozmów i ustosunkowanie się do argumentów innych stron. Zdecydowano, że do czasu znalezienia wyjścia z sytuacji działania wojenne powinny zostać wstrzymane. W związku z tym Prezydentowi Argentyny przedstawiono ultimatum, wedle którego miał nakazać wstrzymanie natarcia do godz. 20:00.
W związku z tym kraje Sojuszu zdecydowały się bronić Peru w przypadku nie spełnienia ultimatum przez Argentynę."
The last two sentences:
Thereupon an ultimatum has been submitted to the President of Argentina, according to which he had to order to stop attack till 20:00.
Because of this countries of the Treaty have decided to defend Peru in the case of not fullfilling the ultimatum by Argentina".
The same he spoke anwsering some citizents. That ALL countries of EDEN will fight for Peru if Argentina not stop fire.
owwik is Spain ex-PEACE country? As I said both of EDEN countries had interests there. Peru isnt EDEN country and neither is Argentina.
About the ultimatum: I have never given ultimatum to anyone in SA neither Peru or Argentina. I have promised to back up Peru if Argentinian president wont answer. 18AM I even gave orders to go Peru, but I canceled them as Argentinians answered Poland and Spain and they all agreed to continue with plan.
If someone has given ultimatum it has been Poland and after that Poland has canceled it. So EDEN haven't eaten its word as we promised to follow Spain's and Poland's plan.
"If someone has given ultimatum it has been Poland and after that Poland has canceled it"
That's not how it looks.
Presiden have ordered congressmans to wait with votes for MPP with Peru to the time when ultimatum expires and when it did his orders was to vote YES.
Ergo, neutral Poland wouldn't try to defend Peru.
"I have promised to back up Peru if Argentinian president wont answer. 18AM I even gave orders to go Peru, but I canceled them as Argentinians answered"
So they have answered AFTER the deadline of ultimatum have passed, right? Thay did NOT fullfil the ultimatum, so you should do what you promised and not cancell anything. WHERE were the orders to defend Peru before you "canceled" them? NOBODY have seen any orders like that.
"I have promised to back up Peru if Argentinian president wont answer."
HA-HA-HA! So the only EDEN's requirement for Argentina was to ANSWER?
"Answer us or we will backup Peru".
This is ridiculous. You all in this treaty are RIDICULOUS.
@Miudyk
No bez przesady.. Aż takich wielkich błędów to nie było, w końcu to co mieliśmy zrobić zrobiliśmy 😉 A jak pisałem już wcześniej - wojna potoczyłaby się całkiem inaczej, gdyby Szwecja się nie wyłamała. Niestety, jak dobrze wiesz, zaczęli w tym czasie trochę kręcić i pojawiły się pewne komplikacje 😉
@Co do tematu
Fakt - wybory były planowane od dłuższego czasu, zanim pojawił się ten cały syf związany z Peru. Także głosy jakoby EDEN dał nam stanowisko tylko dlatego żeby uspokoić sytuację związaną z Peru, nie są do końca prawdziwe.
Polak w Edenie, ale czad!
@ Gabriel Lavanche:
Spain fought for their RL friends - Argentina. There was no other interests. Maybe Poland also should start an alliance with Hungary, our RL friends? - like Spain did.
Bozymir: You are not in EDN channels, so you obviously wont see those order. You are not in finnish army channel, so you dont see my orders there neither.
Again there was no ultimatum. Only thing what had timeline was that Poland will start signing MPP if Argentina wont answer in certain time. MPP wasnt told to vote NO as Brazil started DoW as I said earlier.
Of course that answer had to include some promises and clarifications. It wasnt just a answer and answering itself didnt matter, but explanations was the point. Both Poland and Spain were satisfied what they heard and continued plan.
What is ridiculous is that you are spamming all the articles just because you dont like what happened. Our treaty, EDEN treaty doesnt say that we should defend neutral country which Peru is.
Again you dont have any of those informations that we do and you havent been there when negotiations were held.
owwik: RL brotherhood doesnt have anything to do with fact that Spain fought in Argentina. They are IN GAME brothers which is why they were so fanatic. Just like croatians were on your side.
But Spain has lot of interests more in Argentina than you even know. So stop talking about things that you dont know.
There is one major enemy country named Brazil who is neighbour of both of these countries and has threaten both Spain and Argentina.
This is only one reason and there is lot more.
"They are IN GAME brothers which is why they were so fanatic."
Just think, which dmg in Asturias fight was higher 🙂
"What is ridiculous is that you are spamming all the articles just because you dont like what happened."
Yeah, we dont like when EDEN countries are fighting against polish citizens. Just look at this stats: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-stats-great-andes-battle-statistics-1049322/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-sta[..]/1/20
Ty for clarification Gabriel Lavanche.
EDEN was neutral since the beginning and our President have lied to us.
@Gabriel Lavanche
Stop be so arrogant. You are not alfa&omega.
That's why We wanna leave. Because EDEN's commanders is bunch of arrogants.
Gabriel Lavanche - "By the way we gave Argentina word that they will get Great Andes 4 months ago already. Again I kept my word." Tell me that I misinterpreted that... You promised land to a PEACE country that was fighting against USA? What the hell is wrong with you people?!
Gabriel Lavanche:
"By the way we gave Argentina word that they will get Great Andes 4 months ago already. Again I kept my word."
EDEN Head Quarters had promised a high iron region for a country from the HOSTILE treaty?!? What have you promised to give Indonesia?
lol! this sounds better with every single moment...
The problem is not how to make peace in EDEN, the problem is how to make POL - HUN - CRO alliance works. 🙂
EDEN alliance with HQ from dead countries and couple countires which just wanna be safe.
Less countries in alliance less problems we will have in future.
"By the way we gave Argentina word that they will get Great Andes 4 months ago already. Again I kept my word."
lol i get pawned there 😨
Woah... many people here seemed too busy focused on the fighting in North America and Europe, that only bothered to look at South America for TOving them (Mexico, Bolivia, Venezuela and of course Peru) and the lulz, and have no idea what's going on in that side of the eWorld.
Polish citizens (more so, polish paramilitary groups) should try to inform themselves a little better, cause they are defenitly missing the much MUCH bigger picture. PM anyone from the region or your EDEN representatives... and ask, now.
Oh and btw, two more latinamerican countries have fallen victims of TOs today in their congress elections. Bolivia (by Belarussians and russians) and Venezuela (by what I presume are americans?)... in the case of Bolivia, TOvers have majority congress and thus making it unsurmountable for any ATO team...
We are going to help our Brothers from Hungary 🙂!
The war is coming 🙂 o/