[eBenelux] Unification of the Netherlands and Belgium!
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[eBenelux] Unification of the Netherlands and Belgium!
Hello, my fellow Dutch, Belgian and maybe even some Luxembourgish players!
Recently, our friend Kordak who moved to Belgium published an article about the possibilities to reunite eNL and eBelgium. There was a group of people that were in favor, and a group that totally wasn't. Now, for my first ever article, I want to review this concept from a Dutch point of view and see if this could possibly work, and if it has any advantages.
General statistics
For the first part of my research I went to have a look at influence, territory and population.
As we can all see, Belgium has the most influence and has done the most damage in both the last week and month. But overall, the differences aren't that big and, for instance, both our influences combined would reach about the same amount as Belarus.
Actually, there is nothing much to say about this image. Nothing really interesting, except for the fact that the amount of citizens doubles here.
This is some current information. Of course, with our 2 countries combined in one eBenelux we could possibly gain 2 Dutch core regions. Kordak's plan also involves North Calais to be one of the possible regions to own, which is a point of discussion as it is a core region of neither of us, but one of France’s.
Military
The Netherlands has significantly more damage in the 1st division. This doesn't mean it's only an advantage for Belgium, since our influence also increases.
The influences of both countries are quite equal here. Still, Belgium has a little more, but with the 2 countries combined we can reach the double amount of influence dealt.
In the 3rd division, the Netherlands has nearly double the amount of influence. Combined, we nearly reach 30 mio. influence.
Belgium has a little more influence in the 4th division. Combined nearly 250 mio. influence.
Overall, our military power increases quite a lot. According to Kordak, if we set up bigger communes, those can make profit and give more weapons to the workers, and that way our military power increases even more.
Economy
Kordak also tells us that if we merge our treasures, the economy will get a serious boost, because the taxes can be lowered which will make people buy and import more products. There will be more transactions and still a serious income, and the only thing that has to be done is maintain this trade. A possible increase of the income may occur as well.
Problems
To successfully unify our countries to form an eBenelux, we will have to overcome some problems and avoid chaos among the population.
MoU or MoR – Ministry of (Re)unification
Kordak's plan involves a MoU or MoR. This ministry will make sure that during the unification, the treasure will be merged successfully, eDutch citizens will get highest priority to get Belgian citizenship, et cetera.
Law book
The MoU/MoR will have to find laws that are (nearly) equal in both countries that can continue to exist in the eBenelux. The laws also have to be written all over and accepted by congress again.
Forum
We have to select one officially recognized forum for the eBenelux. In my personal opinion, selecting and renaming the current eBelgian forum is the best option, simply because Belgium is on the map and the Dutch will have to move to Belgium.
Another option is to make an all-new forum, to avoid discussion and maybe boycotting. Which I would prefer over selecting one of the two existing forums.
Alliances
Currently, the Netherlands is in a discussion whether to join Asgard or not, some are even talking about a new alliance, others want to wait and stay neutral for a while.
Belgium is a member of CoT, but since talks about a new alliance have started, it might be an option to consider joining that alliance, but that is not likely to happen in the near future. This is a point of discussion, and might need a referendum to come to a decision.
In short; there are some problems which can be solved easily by using referendums, and the advantages are quite stunning at some points. And, Luxembourgish players will finally have a rightful home!
Since a unification is quite of a big change, takes a lot of time and effort and the process might be quite complicated, I will possibly write another article about a possible eBenelux. If you want me to cover some aspects in the next article, you can request that in the comment section and I will try to cover those as well.
Hail Luxembourg!
Hail Belgium!
Hail the Netherlands!
Hail the Benelux!
The statistics were taken from egov4you.com, 4th of August.
Hello, my fellow Dutch, Belgian and maybe even some Luxembourgish players!
Recently, our friend Kordak who moved to Belgium published an article about the possibilities to reunite eNL and eBelgium. There was a group of people that were in favor, and a group that totally wasn't. Now, for my first ever article, I want to review this concept from a Dutch point of view and see if this could possibly work, and if it has any advantages.
General statistics
For the first part of my research I went to have a look at influence, territory and population.
As we can all see, Belgium has the most influence and has done the most damage in both the last week and month. But overall, the differences aren't that big and, for instance, both our influences combined would reach about the same amount as Belarus.
Actually, there is nothing much to say about this image. Nothing really interesting, except for the fact that the amount of citizens doubles here.
This is some current information. Of course, with our 2 countries combined in one eBenelux we could possibly gain 2 Dutch core regions. Kordak's plan also involves North Calais to be one of the possible regions to own, which is a point of discussion as it is a core region of neither of us, but one of France’s.
Military
The Netherlands has significantly more damage in the 1st division. This doesn't mean it's only an advantage for Belgium, since our influence also increases.
The influences of both countries are quite equal here. Still, Belgium has a little more, but with the 2 countries combined we can reach the double amount of influence dealt.
In the 3rd division, the Netherlands has nearly double the amount of influence. Combined, we nearly reach 30 mio. influence.
Belgium has a little more influence in the 4th division. Combined nearly 250 mio. influence.
Overall, our military power increases quite a lot. According to Kordak, if we set up bigger communes, those can make profit and give more weapons to the workers, and that way our military power increases even more.
Economy
Kordak also tells us that if we merge our treasures, the economy will get a serious boost, because the taxes can be lowered which will make people buy and import more products. There will be more transactions and still a serious income, and the only thing that has to be done is maintain this trade. A possible increase of the income may occur as well.
Problems
To successfully unify our countries to form an eBenelux, we will have to overcome some problems and avoid chaos among the population.
MoU or MoR – Ministry of (Re)unification
Kordak's plan involves a MoU or MoR. This ministry will make sure that during the unification, the treasure will be merged successfully, eDutch citizens will get highest priority to get Belgian citizenship, et cetera.
Law book
The MoU/MoR will have to find laws that are (nearly) equal in both countries that can continue to exist in the eBenelux. The laws also have to be written all over and accepted by congress again.
Forum
We have to select one officially recognized forum for the eBenelux. In my personal opinion, selecting and renaming the current eBelgian forum is the best option, simply because Belgium is on the map and the Dutch will have to move to Belgium.
Another option is to make an all-new forum, to avoid discussion and maybe boycotting. Which I would prefer over selecting one of the two existing forums.
Alliances
Currently, the Netherlands is in a discussion whether to join Asgard or not, some are even talking about a new alliance, others want to wait and stay neutral for a while.
Belgium is a member of CoT, but since talks about a new alliance have started, it might be an option to consider joining that alliance, but that is not likely to happen in the near future. This is a point of discussion, and might need a referendum to come to a decision.
In short; there are some problems which can be solved easily by using referendums, and the advantages are quite stunning at some points. And, Luxembourgish players will finally have a rightful home!
Since a unification is quite of a big change, takes a lot of time and effort and the process might be quite complicated, I will possibly write another article about a possible eBenelux. If you want me to cover some aspects in the next article, you can request that in the comment section and I will try to cover those as well.
Hail Luxembourg!
Hail Belgium!
Hail the Netherlands!
Hail the Benelux!
The statistics were taken from egov4you.com, 4th of August.
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Been there, done that.
The eUNL lives on!
let's not do that again.
Which new alliance do you exactly mean?
I don't think it is workable, for the following reasons:
- one of the countries would be "depopulated", which would make it a prime target for a PTO, which would be very difficult to root out later on
- people from the country whose flag is actually chosen as representative of both might feel they are more "secure" in the sense they got the extra numbers from the other
- it is all too easy for, at the first disagreement, have a group of dissatisfied citizens from the 'depopulated' country to go back and "retake" the homeland.
- sooner or later controversies about use of French will emerge
Yfke has right (not in the french point but in the other yes). Until the admin do not create an option for countries to create "federations" I think that an eBenelux is unfeasible. Nonetheless good luck.
V+S It's certainly worth exploring, and for something good one needs a decent time of preparations. So let's take that time, and look at this from every angle.
There is another solution to the PTO and nationalist problem. Let's first do our very best to get eLuxemburg added. They will have 2 regions as presented in this article: http://wiki.erepublik.com/index.php/User:Bence_Csordas/Luxembourg Which means Brussels won't be needed, and could stay eBelgium, a home for those that will not join eBeNeLux. And because it won't border any other country it's safe as well.
Plus when we've succeeded in bringing eLux onto the map, our recources will be a lot better. Although it might be better to have alluminum in stead of saltpeter. 😉
they have been trying to get all those little countries added for 2.5 years now. don't think it will happen any time soon. and why would eLux get 2 regions?
perhaps you missed it but this would be under the eBL flag not the eNL flag. so eNL citizens would need a region 😉
"So let's take that time, and look at this from every angle."
it hasn't happened for the past 2.5 years. i don't think it will in the next 2.5 years. so take all the time you want.
an confederation .......think we still be an option to be wiped for other since the countries are so small.
A pact between the 3 would be fine coz every country keeps his own identity and souvereinity.
What you propose is some kind of merger......... IMO that won't work coz both countries have groups with a great national pride.
A merger would mean that someone has to give in/up a piece of that national pride.
And i don't see that happening.....soon or any time in the future.
A merger of funds an economy ......... might look fine in the short run but could be very voulnerable for robberies ect ect
Also moving citizens around would make countries more voulnerable to PTO'ers also....
It's not that i do not like the idea of the benelux , but not in this form ......
Just explore where we have tight connextions and common intrests ...... see if you can get them alligned first and maybe expand from that in a later stage.
I will be looking into every statement made here, but I think it's fun that you mention national pride here. We will merge into an eBenelux, so that means that there is no such thing as living in another country. But I see your point 😉
yes it will. the name might be eBenelux but the people need to move to eBL or eNL.
think in the line of friendship and mutual enemies , agression pacts
It's like a kids drawing , just start connecting the dots and eventually the figure will reveal itself 🙂