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I'd prefer an external site with two or three moderators, but so it goes. I assume you just want a yes/no vote?

I don't want to use a 3rd party site for this vote because someone can represent others votes my copy/pasting the profile link of others to cast extra votes one way or another.

I am writing everything in a spreadsheet
Name - vote - citizenship - creation date
I added the date created category to identify potential multis made just for the vote.

I am also screen capturing every PM
If the results end up being in dispute, I can easily re-verify everything.

Also, if a party leadership is leaning one way, their members that disagree may hesitate to vote against them, since one of those party members is one of the "2-3 moderators" you spoke of. With me, everyone is guaranteed privacy.

I am truly content with our nation's position regardless of how the vote goes. The nation knows I can be trusted enough to count the vote fairly.

Regardless of the vote outcome, some people on the other side will inevitably cry foul. I'll take that heat, rather than subject someone else to the burden.

I dispute results right now...please show screenshots of votes when you publish results of this...."referendum"

okay. I will do that. I will also blur out the names to keep people's privacy. Since everyone's messages vary a little bit, it will be easy for anyone to make sure their vote is in the mix.

No Bhane...no one can be trusted in Ireland...not even you.

Conway case proved you would sacrifice ireland to protect a proven traitor.

And even that issue was resolved when traitor left...fact remains you favour your orc friend before irish interests.


I dispute this "referendum" and i can bet "results" will favour renting irish holy lands.

If you blur the names then a bunch of your orcs can forge results....and it will prove nothing.

Do a legit referendum...this is a joke...an orc joke

This type of referendum is more retarded then that's Boru's referendum.

"my orcs" ?

Goodbye Kurgan

This referendum crap you try to pull is an orc thing.

Referendum where you can forge results as you wish since no one controls you....

You referendum is illegal and corrupted before even started....

Stop acting orc Bhane and do a legit referendum...

I'm not going to do a public vote so people can employ cyberbully tactics to peer pressure others into making certain choices... period.

I am strongly against the bullying tactics, no matter how much you and others endorse them.

A private vote is a legit vote when the votes re counted equitably. You know I'm not going to manipulate any results. You are trying to make hay out of nothing, in order to forward your political agenda. Stop it.

I can tell you after seeing a few votes, that a few people have gone against the grain. I don't think they would be comfortable doing so if their vote was public.

I have already seen the good friend of an adamant naysayer vote for the agreement. I have seen a member of a supporting faction vote against the proposal. People are safely voting their personal choice... not the choice of their clique.

The vote is early, but it's fairly close for now. Less than half a dozen votes separate the two choices.

VK - Bhane doesn't even need to run a vote. He is CP and can do whatever he wants with MPPs

Cheers to Bhane for holding a discussion and vote.

bhane you claim something no one can verify.
You could have a normal and legit referendum but again you decided to go with Orc strategy.

Cpt. jackson.....remove yourself from this game.
You and your friends claim you are 14 yo and by erep rules you are not allowed to play this game.

We have no need for crybaby brats here....clearly you are hungry for some milk...call your mom and stop wasting time of adults here

Well, then I guess I don't need to hassle with posting the pics. You are determined to lie about me, regardlessly. You are determined to do whatever it takes to create a false story of corruption for your political agenda.

Bhane, all i talk about is having a proper referendum, controlled referendum.

You refusing to have one and demanding you be a sole decider is unacceptable.

I personally dont care about this deal..its agood deal among friends so no special objection from my side...but your referendum have Conway signature al over...

Asking for legit behaviour from a CP is a lie?

Its you who lied Bhane when you said your MoF will have full financial report...

no one can be trusted in Ireland...not even you.
LIE
you would sacrifice ireland to protect a proven traitor
LIE
you favour your orc friend before irish interests.
LIE
this is a joke...an orc joke
LIE
This referendum crap you try to pull is an orc thing.
LIE
Referendum where you can forge results
LIE
You referendum is illegal and corrupted before even started
LIE
decided to go with Orc strategy.
LIE

I'm not making this choice, Vik, the people are. Maybe an open vote could be possible if people like you did not create an atmosphere that bullies players into actions you want.

MoF did have a full report. When you don't get the EXACT answer you want, you make up false facts to generate the narrative you wish to tell. That is EXACTLY what Fox News does. You claiming the report to be false... another LIE from you.

Your non-vote "no" will cancel out RtK's non-vote "yes", so the results will be exactly the same. Thank you both for making each other's votes still count.

Conway betrayed ireland quite openly and you supportedhim in any way even if that means civil war.

that cancels most of your "LIE".

You having a referendum were you are the only one controling the votes cancels the rest of your "LIE".

How can you be trusted when you support someone who openly betrayed this country.

but what LIE is Bhane you saying i am against this deal....especially since i already said i have no special problems with that deal.

Neither yes or no....but you as Orc like to actually lie about people.

My problemis not the deal but how you handle this referendum.

just like with that traitor you could pull awisemove and have a legit and fair referendum but instead you decided to go with Orc way.

And a voting where no one controls the controller IS the Orc way.

As for MoF i also asked the full numbers about all irish money and golds on all irish orgs.

How much golds we do have right now? NUMBERS!

This nation earned those golds and irishnationhas right to know gold situation.

If this deal goes through you will pull the same crap with that cash by "forgetting" to talk numbers.

Stop acting Orc and go back to the light....

Even though you know you are making stuff up, you continue to copy/paste the same lies. Repeating them enough times will not make them true.

I am still the same player I was 2 months ago, Kurgan. My integrity doesn't change just because you want to undermine me. In fact the tactics of your opposition only reinforces my administration.

I have addressed every concern of yours with honest, legitimate answers. Unfortunately the truth does not fit the false narrative you want to spin. So, you turn to the tactic of fabricated bad lies.... stop it.

Stop acting Kvnt and go back to the light....

Undermine you by asking for integrity,pride and honesty?

Conway openly stated in his article he betrays ireland.
As irish congressman he proposed abunch of irish money to be given to brits.
He was proven thief of irish money.

THOSE ARE FACTS BHANE!

And yet you caled him an irish hero.

Now you want to run a referendum where only your word counts.

Sorry bhane but your words also said conway is an irish hero.


Undermining you?

No...i try to do the opposite and stop you undermine yourself.

Run a fair and legit referend and stop with this Orc sharade or false referendum.

What makes me sad you find my request for fairness an atack to yourself.

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"And yet you caled him an irish hero... Sorry bhane but your words also said conway is an irish hero."
another LIE

You are still creating false facts to spin the narrative you want to tell. I acknowledged his faulted past, and said I would never trust him with state assets. I never called him a "hero", I said I believed his loyalty was to eIreland before any other nation, and I was willing to give him the opportunity to serve the country and redeem his past shady associations.

Stop fabricating lies... stop trying to undermine eIrland for your own political agenda. BTW, your friend eventually did vote. The only way for you to counteract his "yes" is to participate in the vote, yourself.

You see Bhane?
It you who keeps with lies....

I never said i am against the Deal and i never said i would vote no.

I am fine with both decisions...how many times i have to repeat that to you.

It this mockery of referendum i have a problem with.

Clearly, since Sweet is behind this, you were ordered to push this deal no matter what and an actual free will of irish people simply bothers you.

HAVE FAIR AND LEGIT REFERENDUM AND PROVE ME WRONG!

As for Conway...if he did not leave you would stillhave him as minister.

He betrayed Ireland as irish congressman, as IA member and as Irish citizen.
Did he ever apologised for his treason? No...coz he was not sorry he betrayed Ireland..coz he is Orc who only look for his own benefit.

And you bhane suporting such a creature are not to be trusted to be a sole vote counter.
Fact is you disrespected PPs of other parties assuming if they also count votes they will go against their members who vote differently.

Such arrogance you displayed is Orc style.....

This referendum is illegal and retarded and whatever "results" are, they will be irrelevant and illegal...

You LIE to me.
You LIE to the eIrish people.
You LIE to yourself.

Until you change your tactics, and your behavior, your words will continue to carry ZERO clout. If you want to be part of positive changes, then you need do some serious introspection. You are PP/CT (without their political influence).

Stop acting Kvnt and go back to the light...

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An issue this large needs to be monitored by various fractions of ireland to assure voting is fair and unedited.

An issue this large can not be trusted in hands of one human...not even if that human is you Bhane.

It this Conway's idea? Coy its so retarded it must be....


Stop playing orc Bhane and run a legit referendum...

So you and RtK can vote multiple times? RtK has ruined many votes by voting more than once. A year or so ago he rigged a party election that had over 50 votes and only 30 party members.

Cpt. Jackson...you said many times you are 14 yo and therefore you are forbiden by erep rules to play this game and by that your opinion is irrelevant.

Take your childish rants to some game for your age group.

I don't think I ever told anyone my age. All I remember is you and RtK saying that you raped my virginity EVERYTIME I posted. That went on for a couple weeks until I left the game for a while.

Yes you did said you are 14 yo who lost his virginity and have problem remembering by whome.

As minor please go fk youself from this game..

Where did I say that? You are so full of it. You think if you say something often enough it makes it true. You are full of lies and hate.

You mean like you tried to troll me by replying every comment of mine that i stole something but you were to simple to actually says what i stole?

You said, moo said, malbekh said, sweet said..you all said you are a minor.

Malbekh even had a big whining article about you calling you a minor..everybody wrote that you silly simple boy.

So according to erep law, again, remove yourself from this game or i will be forced to protect erep law myself.

Go call your mother to feed you with that milk...clearly you are cranky

liar i won that election but you guys decided beforehand in a few mails who will be pp.

I demand that 12 yo be removed from the game as is stated in the rules also you lieing you tried to troll kurgan and told him he stole something. that was so full of shit we trolled you asking you if it was your virginity. raping? is that another of your sick fantasies you probably left so you can live out sick fantasies on printouts of our avatars.

i voted NO.

i voted YES

you make a mistake when you copy/paste me mate .)

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Bhane..for someone who keep claiming not to be an Orc you keep doing orc crap.

First With Conway were you proved you care more about proven traitor of ireland then irish benefits.

then you talk about krakken banning like it was irish comunity that banned kraken even it was a bunch of orcs who did that and not irish community. You even tried to "help" by suggesting krakken to apologise to your orc friends....to apologise for demanding traitors and thiefs be removed from IA.

And now you try to have a referendum without any independent control.

We should trust you bhane? Before maybe...now you lost that priviledge.

Then simply don't vote, you idiot

Some major complainers haven't voted yet. Maybe they feel the outcome is an inevitable yes. They are clearly trying to manipulate a future argument to shout that their voices were not counted by a corrupt system. The fallacy of this plan is that if they actually did participate, the vote might go their way. By evading the responsibility of participation, they only increase the odds that the other side wins.

If you want to affect the outcome, you MUST vote. You can't avoid participation in order to generate a faux-controversy down the road.

Vik Kurgan = Fox News ?

That really isn't fair Bhane. You should not slander Kurgan like that. lol

Just kidding. Do it all you want.

Bhane you destroyed your neutrality status when you chosed a proven traitor over Ireland.

So asking for a fair and legit referendum is a normal thing to ask.

I don't mind that deal, its a deal between friends but to leave vote counting to only one person is retarded.

Bhane=CNN

I oppose this. I feel we will end with more trouble than the funds are worth.

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I voted for this - time for a little adventure!

I think it's a fair deal how Bhane want to run this referendum. Voted