[CP] Referendum: Results
Bhane
The results are in.
The final tally was 50 - 13 in favor of the rental. I want to thank everyone who participated in the referendum. I will spend the next few days polishing the language to sign the official agreement. The dail has been tossing around some ideas for the rental money. It's time to start making decisions soon. You can look forward to more good news in the future.
Thank you for your time,
Bhane
Comments
Good decision! Well done!
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Awesome, Hail Ireland!
USA and Ireland pact!
it's gonna cost ya a lot more than it's worth to keep it, and it's not nearly enough money to be worth it for us
a bad idea, carried out poorly
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only 63 votes, and some from non eIrish fellows, for an important decision.
this is the true fact to see. 🙁
66 total votes.
61 citizens
2 MU citizens who carry foreign citizenship for production bonuses.
I did not count the 3 from foreign patriots in the final total.
My dear God on Heavens!
What a suprise!
Did any of you sheeps thought there would be any different outcome?
Even if 300 irish voted no results would still be in favour of the deal.
You think Bhane and his Orcs would let some silly irish citizes decide on their destiny.
Bhane....this will hunt you for a long time....a very long time...
You LIE to me.
You LIE to the eIrish people.
You LIE to yourself.
Until you change your tactics, and your behavior, your words will continue to carry ZERO clout. If you want to be part of positive changes, then you need do some serious introspection.
Stop acting Kvnt and go back to the light...
then why this mockery of referendum?
you being sole vote counter?
I dont think so...run legit referendum first, then you can claim results.
Orc changes are not positive and if my words carry zero clout...IGNORE ME YOU ORC!
Change your kvnt tactics, CT... I mean Vik.
I can't tell you apart from him. Both undermine eIreland by constantly bullying, and harassing players.
Demanding from a CP to stop with the crap is not bullying.
You gave ministry position to a proven traitor and now you had illegal and forged referendum were you were sole vote counter.
You refusing to run legit and fair referendum proves you forged results with this mockery.
Where is your proof Kurgan that Bhane forged the results? Just because the results are not to your liking does not mean that they were faked.
70 NO's were discounted because they were multi votes. But 13 interesting rope he is presenting to hang himself by.
Another LIE
You LIE to me.
You LIE to the eIrish people.
You LIE to yourself.
Until you change your tactics, and your behavior, your words will continue to carry ZERO clout. If you want to be part of positive changes, then you need do some serious introspection.
Stop acting Kvnt and go back to the light...
kvnt and introspection what orcish words you speak my son. dont think there is something like introspection .
Introspection - the examination or observation of one's own mental and emotional processes.
"quiet introspection can be extremely valuable"
synonyms: self-analysis, self-examination, soul-searching, self-observation; contemplation, meditation, thoughtfulness, thought, pensiveness, reflection, rumination
How do you know that 70 no's were discounted as multies. I have not read that anywhere. If you know this then you must have committed this fraud. How is anyone supposed to believe a word you say when you would try to rig a democratic referendum? You are tying your own noose here.
yes tell him ac good point . thats what we have been saying that he has rigged the referendum. good points my friend good points.
Any attack on eIreland regions by the U.S.A. will be considered as an ACT OF WAR by Eire citizens. You have been WARNED!!!
Any influence going against official orders will be considered an act of treason by Eire citizens.
naw it wont bra 50/145 is no majority decision in any book.
50/145? Where did these numbers come from? 50/13 is a majority decision in any book.
Central Limit Theorem
If we were to repeatedly take samples from a population and graph all the means we'd have a normal distribution of sample means with the standard deviation of these means called the standard error.
This is such an important concept in statistics, almost everything else you learn after this depends on the fundamental concept. It's called the central limit theorem. The central limit theorem in it's shortest form states that the sampling distribution of the sampling means approaches a normal distribution as the sample size gets larger, regardless of the shape of the population distribution. So the sample means will be normally distributed (especially when the sample is above 30) if the population is positively skewed, negatively skewed or even binomial (having only 2 outcomes).
Especially with a population as small as eIreland, the guideline of obtaining at least 30 responses from the population is more than enough for a representative sample. We doubled that number which means the vote substantially represents the entire population. The 79% approval rate means that 115 of the 145 voters in the CP election are in favor of the rental. The odds of all 82 other votes being "no"s is so many standard deviations outside of the normal curve that the infinitesimally small odds are too many decimal places away for the average calculator to show. It's not just infinitesimal... it is, in fact, impossible.
You are again creating false facts to spin the LIE narrative for a political agenda.
You LIE to me.
You LIE to the eIrish people.
You LIE to yourself.
Until you change your tactics, and your behavior, your words will continue to carry ZERO clout. If you want to be part of positive changes, then you need do some serious introspection.
Stop acting Kvnt and go back to the light...
Do you lift? You damage is piss poor.
Great decision.Nice move for our country !
Good job, Bhane 🙂 Don't listen to trolls like VK 😉
Democracy made the decision. Shame more citizens didn't vote! The monthly income will be useful I'm sure and if it makes no difference to Erin's sovereignty and can be revoked when necessary then I can't see a particular problem with the agreement.
HAIL IRELAND!
HAIL USA!
I accept the result.
Good decision.
HAIL IRELAND!
HAIL USA!
The people have spoken. Now we have to figure out the best way to get the money to work for the people.
The dail has been tossing around some ideas for the rental money.
? Are we reading the same dail thread? The one that's been pretty much silent?
The cabinet has probably had more discussion. But I know Raven mentioned his desire to plan an AS with the money. A few people talked about spending the money to upgrade citizen training centers. Maybe one of the congress threads had more talk then the other. Some people were hesitant to discuss it, since this rental was by no means guaranteed.
Regardless, the money is coming soon, and it's time to get serious about deciding how to spend it.
Just a note...each month i was in eIrish congress 1 out of 2 congress threads was silent, almost dead!
I'm looking forward to it. Welcome USA
I''m still against this. I think it's a bad idea and I will continue to oppose it. I don't think the eUSA is a stable or reliable enough country for this. We have to give up our shield for it. We have to pay to quell any rw's that nations such as ePoland or eSpain fund to pull damage away from fights they want to win. We also have to endure constant give me this and give me that's from citizens. I'm sure we'll also see ample amounts disappear into the treasury that will not have any accountability over it.
I will be fighting against the eUSA once they begin the attacks. I'm still working to get the eUK stench out of my garden, and now I'm supposed to welcome a McDonald's there instead?
simply don't understand you bro, you mean that shield won't be destroyed once? its great opportunity for us to get huge amount of money in treasury. and you will fight against country orders( including IA orders) if you will do so, you don't deserve to wear that avie.
No, I'm standing on my own principles. If it's decided that my conscience is trumped by IA orders, then I'll remove it. At that time, I'll really get serious about paying for RW's and causing as much trouble as I can manage.
Paddy, you are not alone in opposing the rental agreement. The manifestation of that disapproval is entirely up to each individual.
A) One can respect the decision of the majority, while allowing your passion to lead you to advocate for an end to the rental with articles and comments and other rational discourse.
😎 One can succumb to their darker side, as RtK has decided, and actively sabotage/undermine the democratic choice of the nation.
I am glad you are choosing A, as a reasonable, rational human being.
I also do not expect you to fight against eIreland in the passing of the regions. I know I can't bring myself to do it, and I would not hold others to a different standard. Food fight for TP damage if you must, but I humbly beseech you not to spend money pushing the wall. Allow the large 2-click population of the US to win, per the agreement our citizens have endorsed. If the wall is close, please fight for our allies abroad.
In true spirit of the Army and following a national consensus, HQ will never set an order that the members will not follow - no point, no one will follow it, this is a game afterall. But the discrepancy here, Paddy, is if HQ told members to fight hard against the US, no point because those results say the majority support it, so the majority wouldn't follow the order.
In your rights to oppose the deal, but this is a team game, comrade. Our team has collectively decided on a game plan, not everyone agrees, but there it is. If something goes wrong, then the game plan will need to be changed, but we're all going t be burdening the consequences or rewards of it - come hell or high water.
We don't have to pay to defeat the RW's. That responsibility falls to the USA.
Spain & Poland will not be interested in sabotaging USA's resource holdings, they're preoccupied with their own concerns.
We already have to endure constant 'gimme gimme'.
While you are a free man to do as you feel, you're also a member of the national army. Taking action that undermines national strategic interests is frowned upon.
Easily fixed. I resign from the IA, effective immediately.
whoa nice thinking, all you can do is put us at really huge trouble ( dat shield you're whole time crying about isn't that worth at all)
Actually for a small country like eIreland, it is worth!
it is worth but not that much 😉 70 k per month is huge ampunt of money + they'll put in some more for that shield. do you know how much dmg can you buy with this money? i'd say mich more than we have shield.
Although one thing about the shield is that we can depend on it rain or shine, regardless of the state of merc markets or time zones. A small factor, but because of the shield issue I did really struggle with this proposal.
In the end I voted yes to the referendum, but it wasn't an easy vote for me. Either way it seems the majority are behind the idea, and since that's the case I'll happily work to see it become a success.
the shield is nice, but CO's have proven that even TWO mercs will fight against their own if the price is right. Many have fought against their own just for the chance of the new medal. This money is great for a small nation like ourselves. Not to mention, the investment of training grounds are only going to make our military that much more efficient.
So yet again ireland is doomed to just argue about every decision made by whatever leader makes it. What's the point, in the end the country is only weaker for it. A decision has been made, the debates have been had. Just pick up your toys, put them back in your prams and get on with it. Can't we just work towards a single direction whether we agree or not. I don't understand this division, is it an ego thing ? People tell me eireland is organised, that's a laugh, every decision made has an army of people saying they will do whatever they can stop it, how organised is that.