[CP own decision] Creation of Bank Managers.
eBelgian Presidency
Hello Dear Belgians and other citizens.
Dear PTOers, you are too late. eBelgium has been PTOed already.
Please read carrefully as some rules have changed.
Jokes aside, let me introduce you the principle. As we had too much gold, we were under high PTO risk. Of course those risks can still happen but the pie is smaller. That’s the main reason.
Golds are stored in national ORG under the CP full control. So basically as soon as a CP is elected he has full access to the national gold. Which allowed me to do this move very quickly without no one noticing it (unless one cool guy). Same can be done to steal the money. And in a regard it’s what I did. I stole took the money from the ORG without asking the congress. Is it illegal? Well not really as the constitution doesn’t forbid it (http://www.erepbelgium.com/t6140-constitution-of-ebelgium) and it seems there are no laws enforcing money to be stored in NBB-BNB. So, yes, I am storing eBE treasury somewhere else.
I believe that if you can trust your CP, you could trust former CPs and longtime citizens. That’s why, where ORG have issues, personal wallets don’t. And that's why I created Banh Managers.
Nearly all the eBE treasury has been transferred into Bank Manager wallets.
A Bank Manager is depositary of a part of eBE treasury and will react accordingly to CP and congress will. With the restriction that the money must be used for eBE and not for personal abuse from any CP.
The state will request a budget and Bank Managers will grant this budget to the National ORG NBB-BNB. It is one step more complicated, it is one step more safe.
As a starting point we believe a CP does not need more than 1000 golds unless extreme circumstances. So 1000 golds are left on NBB-BNB.
Bank Managers so far are:
Bank Managers:
Jofroi
JdlF
MaryamQ
Olv007
OneLast
We are still waiting for the "OneLast" decision.
Bank Managers agreed with this system. Even if we know it is not the ideal situation.
Some laws will come out (mainly kind of a constitution for Bank Managers). And we will invite congress on making rules.
This decision has been made without any congress approval. Even if it is not illegal (and more "grey") I do understand that some of you could feel bad.
It is true CC have been lost into the operation and we are going to get back the maximum we can (10 golds/day/manager). Nevertheless it will allow eBE to keep on education programs and fight in tournaments. While wasting money is ... a waste.
It was not an easy decision because it creates a big change in the way eBE works. During my term I've spoken with some citizens about my will of lowering our treasury. While some understood the need, other were against such a thing. And when I asked how to lower this treasury some answered about a big give away.
Giving away our treasury would mean the end of eBE. The other solution would have been a long wipe. Maybe the end of eBE. I've chosen an other path.
I know we had at least 2 more month. Always slowing down PTOers. But at the end of the day we would have been urged to act. Some proposed the long wipe as I've said. But my dream is about eBE. Some proposed massive ATO help from other countries. But PTOers have proven their patience by staying for over six months, and I don't think our friends would stay that long.
With this move we are still under PTO. But I guess it is less interesting than before.
Yours sincerely,
JdlF
ps1: by the way I'm going on holyday. I guess it's a good time as I will receive tons of mp. Good luck to every CP candidates.
ps2:
ORG, kind of fake player which can be used as a bank (can buy more golds at once). Most of the time it belongs to the CP.
NBB-BNB, national ORG working as the national bank.
eBE, eBelgium (this country) or eBelgian (eBelgium citizens).
CP, country president.
PTO: political take over, taking over a party through politics. It has to be taken in the bad way, through illegal immigration.
PTOer: person doing a PTO.
PTOe
😛suffering a direct PTO.
Comments
As eBelgium country president, I honestly think it is the best solution to protect the national treasury while allowing upcoming governments to work the way they want as far as it is not for personal purposes.
I strongly believe that such a system will allow a new things and new systems with long term views.
JdlF.
we need numbers how much etc...
we don't need, but it would be nice to know how much money to whom.
Good job, guys 🙂
I just hope you do not have internal/personal problems because of this measure and you keep in mind that gold is from every single citizens of eBelgium! Anyway, be always careful with the people you trust in, cause when it comes to gold...
Miau o/
citizen*
Don't worry, the citizens who have been picked up have got access to the national treasury in the past and nothing significant ever disappeared from the treasury 😉
nothing significant, right 😛
all... except... JdlF!!!
Not true. Most of the gold is from Backwards...
"The Bank Managers" represent the people than, the better choice is one from every party
and i hope you send a ticket to admis (erep ones) for they accept this, if not they will come take this money from Managers and we will stay with ZERO 🙁
No, they can ask it back only if the CP asks for it.
The in-game rules about the control the CP has over orgs is well established over time. This has been done transparently, and using long established eBe citizens who are holding this money in trust for the country. It is not the solution I would have chosen, personally, but I respect JdlF for taking the responsibility for this bold move, and for making it public. Supported.
I see in France one player take the money from France Org and the Admins take from him, you not think the admins will take this money ? A country can be send only to another country or organization not a player, i think is the erep rules.
Tomorrow they will see this and we bankrupt, they not will accept this for me the best solution is send to COT HQ
It is not the same situation as France at all. That was a player who had access to an org and took the money, not the CP. The CP has full control of all orgs.
supported, why not BrunoCND for the last.
We need to protect our treasury.
Finally, someone did it. JdlF you're one of the best ; )
I totally support these actions.
@Ely you or NLSP could be a better choice than me : p
no me i don't like to have a responsability with money
I'm glad to see that you would trust me 🙂
i've always trusted you
I would have liked a debate on those "bank managers", as there was time for it. But anyway, it is your right to move the money wherever you want. Provided that next CP will found the money back in his CP pocket!
CP can store the money wherever he wants, so using Bank Managers, but Congress decides where and when and if to use it.
A Debate for managers yes and for how much money
Good decision, but be careful about who has the money, as Mininuns said, when it comes to gold people can become horrible...
problem is not only if the person would give the gold/cc back, but more important that he/she doesn't get perma-banned or dies.
That's also a risk but well if they are sure of who they choose it shouldn't be a problem right? I don't think someone like MaryamQ could get banned. Also I can say that I could trust MaryamQ without worrying about the money I know she won't do anything wrong.
Good to know the money is more safe now!
Excellent decision! Thumbs up! JdlF - you are definitely one of the best CPs so far! I would like to see you taking charge of eBE at least once more in the future.
I would too, but I doesn't wish him 😁
Good job JdlF .. hope this will protect the treasury from an eventual PTO of the country 😃
Hurts many principles. Unpleasant move.
Pitty that we need to do this.
Sad to see that all people care about is the treasury ...
Even sadier to see that everyone sees this as a victory, while it's only a radical solution that didn't have to be made yet, since there is no risk for CP elections.
It makes me sick that now everyone feels safe, while the threat is still there.
don't worry i never feel safe
We have 4 bank managers, 3 are rl Belgians and none of them have ever done something against eBelgians rules.
Very very good (perfect) initative and people choice!
Yes, an unpleasant move. But this is what we had to do in eSwitzerland to keep our assets out of PTO hands.
Face the foe. Stand firm citizens.
Yep at least the rest of money was safe there and able to be use at anytime.
CP election were safe if you ask me (I know nobody will ask). We prove it so many times before that we can secure the CP seat by having all the votes for a single elected citizen. So, why the fuzz. You guys, just make me fell like me, and so many other people like sh1t, like our opinion worth nothing, like we do not count. Thanks. I think the time has come for me to leave... I feel it for some days now and I think I`m gonna start searching for a place where I know from the very beginning that my opinion doe`s not count...
Your opinion does count, NSD. This action was taken quickly and unilaterally. It would not have been my preferred option, but I understand why it was done. Yes, we have secured CP elections up until now, and we may continue to do so, but for how long? This will not stop any of the good things we have been able to do; it just makes a bit of insurance for the country as a whole.
I`m sorry but I must be honest to my self at least and say that no words can ever make me feel another way than I already feel. A decision where no eBe citizen had nothing to say it`s a bad decision no matter what. If we fight against terror with terror we are not different from the way the are, we are the same. The reason does not excuse the method`s.
The problem is that very many people want to participate/be part of/feel good about doing stuff for eBe. And I guess one would feel disappointed if one's pride is harmed in one way or the other by being excluded. I for one don't really care what the CP has done, he did it by his own judgement. It's his call, you elected him, and he made a decision he thought was right, and it's within any game mechanic law. That's all what counts, just like PTO a powerplay is taht can be executed because of those game mechanics. Set aside deomcratic urges and the need to be part of everything all the time, it will make you feel better.
People barely listen to me either, not my problem 😉
😁 D9 ... NSD you take this thing way too seriously, chill man...
@evladimir : to set things right, I fully support the move and have no problems with it 😉
mass multi using and it's over...
Yep, only need it once
And I believe it's better to prevent a completed PTO than to fix it afterward.
my noobie MoF learnt something at the end XD
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Maybe I will write another article at the end.
I taking my words back and I apologize.
Brilliant idea