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It was so stressful writing article in erepublik :/

nana maybe you should press the proposal button, it's the eRep mechanism, you propose and discuss it here 😛

okay.. maybe it's for the first proposal on Grain:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/China/law/4455
Please vote YES
Thank You

-for better china-

mmmmm but If we lower the tax on the most basic product in erpeublik won't china lose money?

Since grain tax is most often collected lowering could either improve china's markets and/or cause less money coming in to the treasury?

dear richie450, imho, what really we need now is a trigger..
with this trigger. You know.. in some certain issues, eWorld is in crisis of high living-cost because of the labour competitin..

i see that as an opportunity for us, we could attract more citizens and companies to settle. The government might loss by tax cut, but the economy would grow and i think it's worth it 😉

MmMmmmmm...... Yes Yes of course i know what you mean.I agree with you now but I shouldn't Have voted no.sorry.

You are right the world in living high living-cost labour competition.Back in the old days,in beta version in stepember the price of food was at it's lowest in the usa at the price of about 0.30 USD now food pices have gone up to about 1.16 per q1 which happened at the start of v1 when raw materials were introducded.I see what you mean now.

I want china to be able to sell food at those prices but we need a higher pop and to get that would be to follow your plan.

Thank you richie.. although you've voted no.. 🙂

I though you were from that iranian party freedome and was trying to launch an attack 🙂

thats my girl... Nana.. Love u soo... ;😉

now i can create my company without fear export Competitor.. yohohohoho..

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hope now they understand we don`t want to destroy eChina..

geez.. is there anybody would read the discussion area and put a comment before voting?

thank you wizzie_don.. for better China! 😉

my dear nana..
they have NEGATIVE feeling about us.. even before they read our proposal they hand vote NO automaticly.. so dont take it seriously about they attitude..
for now we must work extra hard to gain they trust.. but we have 1 month rite?? and if everything settled and they trust us.. we have 3 or 4 month or maybe forever.. LoL..

lol wizzie, nothing is static you know 😛

yeah... Like YOUR feeling...

I like this allot! Good post.

well I've gain Trust with

Mimihitam
Empress Lusianna the Great

Also the congressn from CEP and DCP.

the other two parties not so much expect for these two

I will from now on look at the proposla and disscussion before voting.

@richie: who can really blame you for the way you voted? You had a good heart. Who knew some people in this party would care? 🙂 , I guess that's why I learned we should never jump the gun, if only I would of thought of that earlier LMAO.

he dont trust me.. LoL..

thats fine with me..

right after voting process on the first proposal done, i would propose..
the 2nd proposal: Food income tax to 3% and VAT to 5%
The 3rd proposal: Oil import tax to 99% and income to 3%
The 4th proposal: Moving Tickets to 5%

Export would be encouraged to gain more Golds and more values for our CNY

And when our CNY is strong enough, then we ought to import some more irons (import tax on iron should be minimized while the income tax increased) for cheaper weapons and to make sure our production focus on grain-food and oil-moving

welcome for any discussion here 🙂

indeed nice one, anna 🙂 keep up the good work

hiii there abarai...

@nana..
2nd proposal : yeah.. food income tax is to high.. we need more cheap food for eNewbie and cheap high Q food to attract new old eCitizen.
Note : eChina citizen wellness is poor.. we need to maintanence our wellness so we can get maximum productivity and cheap high Q food can make it happen (if there`s no private company so goverment can make some.. we have high grain for RM)

3rd proposal : i aggree

4th proposal : yeah.. i aggree in this.

well I hope this dosen't let you down but...

you only get two proposla for each term

NOOOOO!

again, eChina needs money. we recieve messages every day about our low treasury levels. Again, the DPC (and the CEP) stand for higher taxes. Even after having Beijing, I still believe we need 1 import, 15 vat, 7 income on ALL our industries.

the lowest I pay a citizen is 6 CNY a day. that is for a skill 0. Why do they need to keep more of it to pay for food, when that is more than enough for food?

income taxes on iron will do nothing at all. we have no iron industry, so raising income taxes on it won't help anything.

also, please realize I say this as the owner of 5 chinese companies- 2 of them being in grain. The taxes I propose will hurt me personally, but will help eChina.

make that 4 companies with 1 grain 🙂

Can I get a clarification? Since I am new and all I am not exactly sure I understand what you are proposing... A tax cut or increase?

darth- I am proposing an increase from 1%import/12%VAT(none for raw materials)/5%income

to

1%import/15%VAT(none for raw materials)/7%Income

the indos (SoM) want the taxes changed to 99%import/(no VAT for raw materials/1%income for grain and oil.

and 99%import/5% Vat/3% income for food and moving tickets.

the indos' proposal will not sustain our treasury, we will not be able to have our government do a thing, and we will not be able to pay the new citizen fees much longer.

for those who think that my proposal won't fit our treasury.. come on.. it's only a notification that the treasury is too low to afford "new citizen".. not the gov expense..

if any real chinese people might to join the game but they found their country couldn't afford their eBirth, they would join another country they know (probably USA,Japan) and would find the way to where they should be from there.

My suggestions:
- don't be afraid of low treasury. that's what we must get through
- keep in your mind that the proposal attracts new citizen from aboard, not from "new citizen"
- please.. don't call me indo.. i'm eChinesse now.. which i would consider you are. Whoever now live in eChina and work for it faithfully, are all eChinesse wherever they actually are from
- and please trust me.. i don't care Indo, I don't care Iran, I don't care USA but my glorious China.. that's it.

and thanks

@well I hope this dosen't let you down but...you only get two proposla for each term

not at all, richie😁 i'm not alone in the congress 😉

empress lusianna- I really would like to believe you have cut all ties with indonesia, but since your party received twice as many votes as you had members, I have to believe you had friends (and since you are all immigrants from eIndo, it is suitable to believe they also are eIndos) come in and vote you into office.

If this doesn't fit you personally, forgive me for calling you an Indo, however, it is hard to justify staying with a party that used this tactic

also, as to the taxes- as long as we keep income down, citizens will come. VAT taxes may be a pain, but companies will lower their prices to compete, so it evens out there.

As for Import taxes, as I've said before, wages in china are low. if a competitor in another country can produce a product that will actually sell in eChina, (meaning all cheaper offers have sold. All cheaper offers as in any native chinese company with any business sense) it is a product we need. All import taxes should be set to 1 percent.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/China/law/4521

a new proposal is up

and again (probably worthlessly) I urge congressmen to vote no.

@Laffopuritain on Import taxes.

-> why the company as you said in other countries should sell cheaper goods while we've already had a high region?? is it our industry's incapability to compete or just because of many import goods?

In my view.. Grain, oil and its finished goods should be our economic base and that must be started by chinese company. Now we help them to. Besides, importing goods only hurts our CNY value, believe me..

and why do i have to cut my ties with indonesia.. i still have many indonesian friends.. i'm not a person who just make friends then leave them like that. I hope China would be more open-minded about this.. or we just make more new visitors to go back to their country because of this inconvenience :/

I am not suggesting you cut your ties- if this is how my 'banters' have been sounding, I again appologize for it. All I am saying is that Take Overs are bad, and that the SoM in general used it to get elected, which is bad, which makes the SoM in general bad in my view.

for the import taxes, i think you again misunderstand me. I am saying that if we manufacture a product, our product will be cheaper in most cases as long as the GM of the company is not ridiculously inept. Our problem, however, lies in our shortage of workers. Until we get more workers to fill every quality of food, and to supply our nations moving ticket needs, we need imports for these. While our q3 food may be expensive, the japanese company selling the q4 food is helping eChina. raising import taxes on this will only harm relations with the company, and since japan is small, the whole nation. Also, a q4 food supply is hard to come by. especially one priced as fairly as the one on the market.

I personally thank and welcome ANYONE importing to china, and welcome all relations with foreign companies. China needs to be seen as a prosperous place, where money can be made. It will be for this reason, and not a 5-10 percent difference in income taxes and Vats, that people will come to eChina.

lol, how can you think it's fine? If it was not for China, i wouldnt set up a food company here, because of the low CNY value.

"+ Protect our industries by increasing import tax on grain and oil as high as we can (99😵"

Protecting the industry through import taxation is a primitive concept. If you're to run the grain and oil industry, you're to open up trade not close on trade, that way oil and grain production can become more profitable. This also depends on the domestic market, especially if you have a weak domestic demand, you surely need to sell outside, and if you put a tarif on products coming in, then "they" will put a tarif on your product.