[Congress] Congratulation, analysis and explanations about what happend

Day 798, 13:19 • Published in Belgium United Kingdom • by Apotygma


Hello World !

The elections are over, and now the real life of our country starts. Without a congress a country is powerless. Without congress everyone can try to take advantage of the situation. Without congress a country is powerless. I am today proud to announce that this situation is OVER. Belgium is now finally on the map, has a new elected congress and will probably soon have a new president. Yes, a new president. Read this article to analyze with me the changes that occurred.

1 – A word of explanation



I never hided in all my articles that I was a fervent supporter of “Belgium for Belgians”, a name that may have caused some trouble (I will explain my view on this later). Even with this support, I’ve tried to give a good and as neutral as possible opinion on the situation of our country. I am an IRL Belgian, despite what some may say : it is true (Those who are willing to meet me in Leuven are always welcome), and by this I tried to serve my country by publishing these articles.

This will not stop for now, I will go on as I believe that we have the right to live free. A right to be fully independent, even if, I have welcome all the citizens that are willing to work FOR Belgium, to come and live in our country. All the parties I qualified of PTO parties, where parties with only foreigners, no locals. Not trustable in my eyes.

But, talks have now started between different parties, and we will see how they finish. Positive news has already been spread over the news, signs that some PTO parties have clear objective and are willing to cooperate as long as we don’t interfere with these objective (later more).

2 – VICTORY

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First of all, this is a victory, a huge victory if you look from where we came. Belgium grew from a country without support to a country with a huge active population. Not all are RL Belgians, but this is not important anymore, we all live know in a country under the ruling of RL Belgians or people that don’t want to oppress the citizens.

First of all, the results (taken from this websitehttp://tinyurl.com/elecresultsBe)

Belgium defense party - 313 votes – 3 Seats – 15% of congress.
Belgium for Belgians – 800 votes – 9 Seats – 45% of congress
Movement for Belgium – 337 votes – 6 seats – 30% of congress
Belgium Neutrality Party – 140 votes – 3 seats – 15% of congress
National Democratic Front – 53 votes – 0 seats – 0% of congress

As you see, the results are very clear : The parties that wanted to work for an independent Belgium had a majority of votes. I am deeply sorry that the National Democratic Front, a group of good and hardworking people, didn’t get congress seats. They where one of the most active in the news, the most active on the official forum (That I all invite you to join : http://ebelgium.forumotion.net/) they disserved seats. But elections are hard, people with the most support win. All parties called in a lot of friends and people from other countries to ensure that they won, all with different purposes.

National Democratic Front didn’t ask for help in other countries and they pay the price today. But, I want to congratulate them. They are the once that kept a good and constructive debate going. I am sure that we will see some of their members again in the government and that next month, they have some of their members in congress.


For the other parties, I welcome all of their congressmen in our country and hope they will enjoy the good beer, French fries, Mussels, and women ! Their names are as follow : asonalwaysready, Rod Damon, Msuracer, Ivan Vancho Makedonski, Baab, Jonnymkd, KuzMann, Olv007, thedragon, Murena, Hugo Lilly, Manong Rizal, hyhyhy123, Blejk, lukasznaw, hellmartin, Jarhead94, kryty, klkl, SportBilly.

3 – The future

As I already said, the future lays now in our hands. We now have a congress, people to represent us and that (may) help our country grow. New laws will be voted, new countries will be set up, we will set up the official power. A very interesting time is coming up and we will soon see how it will end. To add my piece to the whole, I want to make a proposition for the first law that will pass.

I think the first law a country has to pass has a certain meaning, something that will stay through the times, something that people will remember and that has a meaning. I do, by this, mean that the first law a country votes should be an important law. A law that makes sense and a law that will set a good course for the future.

Because of this, I think the next law makes sense :



- IMPEACH PRESIDENT GRINCH85

Why does this make sense? Grinch is the remain of something that belongs to our past, something that recalls bad memories to the events that occurred several months ago. The Group ruined our country, stealing our money, taking us more or less captive from the systems. Babies joined, but left the same day because none was there from the government to give them a helping hand.

We need to forget this history. Need to forget this PTO. We need to get rid of this fear ! Having him staring at us every single day is something that recalls us what went wrong. Where we failed the first times, why we have to work to prevent it from happening again !

Secondly, why? Because a country cannot run without a president ! We need a president to propose an MPP. We need a president to represent us though the world, something that will be necessary as we are today in the middle of the battlefield : LITTERALLY. Grinch85 is inactive and he will remain inactive as a country president. He is not someone that is willing to work for a free and independent Belgium, something most of us hope for.

Thirdly, he would be replaced by Olv007, the current PP of Belgium for Belgians. A lot of you know him or will get to know him through his active work for an independent Belgium, a Belgium that works for Belgians and foreigners that are willing to cooperate with us.

4 – Clarrification

I think a lot of you are wondering how “Belgium for Belgians” got so many votes and why some people on our list are not RL Belgians. I am not Olv007, but I can try to give my point of view and what I THINK has happened. I warn you, I may make mistakes, only Olv007 will be able to tell you the truth.

Until yesterday morning when I came back from my exam, I didn’t know that BfB had so many foreign support. For a lot of you it wasn’t a secret anymore that they had support from the British Army and a lot of the Belgians in the eUNL, the PP of the Belgian Party even officially asked to not vote in the Netherlands so that we could prevent the takeover of Belgium. This was all commonly known to everyone active on the forums or IRC.

But, during the day, as I was coordinating the voting orders (mistakes were made costing us seats…), I saw that a lot of people where infact involved in this. More than 800 votes where addressed towards the candidates of BfB ! 800 !! From what I heard, people from everywhere in the world came to vote in Belgium : Hungarians, French, Germans, English, Dutch, Serbians and I am sure I am forgetting some.

Everyone PRO-EDEN here will say : “See I told you so, PHOENIX PTO”. This is NOT the case. Why did we ask for their help? Because we saw that a lot of EDEN sympathizers where coming to Belgium. We tried to get EDEN involved through contacts with high officials, no response came. EDEN wasn’t interested in helping RL Belgians living in a free country WITHOUT being a support for eUK and PHOENIX. So we turned to the last solution : PHOENIX.

Apparently this was also the reasons why America got involved. They saw huge amounts of PRO-PHOENIX rush to Belgium, candidates from the eUNL present (this comes later), they thought PHOENIX was doing a PTO so they organized a counter PTO. In fact, under the lights of the latest events, a counter-counter-PTO. Apparently they didn’t have the support needed as they only have 3 seats, but I believe we can work together.
EDIT : Apparently they only targetted this amount of seats, it was their goal and that's why they only got 3 seats. Important clarrification I think 😛

For the Polish, still no information is available. The only person we hear of is Kryty, who claims to be of good will. But can we believe him, is his voice the voice of his PP? We don’t know as we still didn’t hear of him/her. As a person he may have the best intentions, but his voice may not be the voice of its party ! I received a message from him showing that he, Kryty, is willing to cooperate with the BfB, but what about its PP? We don’t know.


Secondly, I know that all the people on our lists are not RL Belgians. Some of you pointed it out and were right. They are not and we never hided it. After talks with Olv007, these people are people that are willing to cooperate for a free Belgium. Some are from the eUNL, but wasn’t Belgium until a few days ago a member of the eUNL? Didn’t all Belgians live there? Is it because someone lives in the eUNL that he IS Dutch? No. Those people are as much Belgian as I am, maybe not form birth, but in their hart they are.

Last but not least, if you want to understand why all of these EDEN and PHOENIX people are so interested in Belgium, I refere you to my previous article .

5 – I am sorry



I wanted to apologize to all Belgians and people who voted for us. I wanted to apologize for all congressmen we didn’t get into congress. Part of this is my fault, some also Olv, but still. To diffuse orders, we used a google spreadsheet as you all probably noticed. That spreadsheet was updated every 5 or 6 minutes during the day by me.

The last hours we updated this again, crucial moment. But, there was something we didn’t take into account : the publication delay. I learned this morning, that it takes up to 5 minutes to google to update the publication of a spreadsheet. I was updating the spreadsheet, but those updates didn’t show on the page all of you could see.

This caused a certain delay, causing AT LEAST 4 or 5 votes to go to the wrong persons. I truly believe that we had enough votes to get AT LEAST 2 seats more. Let me explain :

- Kryty got into congress only because he had more XP than Mjinks. One vote was enough to get one seat more (1 vote wasted)
- Azaert wasn’t safe, with one vote more we could have ensured him of congress (1 vote wasted needed)
- If we had a little more votes, only 6 votes more where needed to get Hellmartin out of congress and get Paladijn in.

Those were 8 votes we needed. 8 votes, 1% of all our votes. 8 votes and we would have 12 seats. This wasted because I didn’t take into account this delay and didn’t change the publishing method (like giving everyone access to the spreadsheet itself that was directly up to date).

For this I apologize to all the people who donated money. I apologize to all people that I didn’t get into congress due to my mistake. I apologize to all the people who voted for us. I apologize to all the real Belgians that wanted a Belgium for Belgians and willing foreigners. I apologize.

This defeat in the last seconds is part my mistake and I feel guilty about it. We still have the most seats and with discussions with other parties a certain majority. But I still apologize to all of you.

For those of you who want a compensation : I was myself running in East of England for UKRP, until the last minute i was in congress, due to the lack of mobile voters I lost my seat also. You are not alone.

6 – Conclusion

As a conclusion, I invite all people who are willing to cooperate for a free Belgium, all new congressmen, all people who are just interest to join us on the official Belgium forum. http://ebelgium.forumotion.net and on the official IRC channel : #eBrussels on Rizon. Thos two elements are very important for a new country. Get involved and make this country live ! How more it is alive, the stronger we will be in the future !

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