[Analysis] The Parties active in Belgium
Apotygma
Congress elections are coming up and Presidential elections won’t follow soon after that. It is important that a good view remains of who we can trust here in Belgium, people that seem to be willing to work for a good and free Belgium. A Belgium without any foreign interference, this doesn’t mean foreigners are not welcome.
The upcoming days will determine how our country will evolve in the upcoming days, and after the results the upcoming months. This first election will determine how strongly we are committed to our country and how strong the foreigners are. IF we cannot win this first election, bad days are coming and our country will be lost again.
I will try to keep you informed of everything going on in the country, the facts we discover, this with hard facts. I will not try to fool you as a lot are doing, I am giving all the parties the opportunity to discuss in the comments and try to inform you of everything they say.
First, a little presentation of the parties that are now active in Belgium.
1 – The council
This party is led by Highst, a well known person among all of you. He’s a member of The Group, the organization that took control of Belgium for a couple of months. For those who don’t know The Group, it’s a Romanian military organization with huge amounts of money. They have hundreds of active players that they can move all around the world. Belgium wasn’t there first shot to take control of a country, they already tried this several times before. Their main interest last time was to use the Belgian population as a human shield against the “threat” of the eUK towards Romania.
Beside using us for this, we also were a cheap way of making money for them. Under the moto: ‘We are stabilizing the monetary market’, they kept taking out money for the state account and donating it to one of their organizations. Those who don’t remember everything, here are FACTS to prove my accusations.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/20111 (20.800 BEF)
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/20911 (100 gold)
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Belgium/law/20727 (13300 BEF)
They ruined our country by stealing a lot of money, money we could have used to rebuild our economy, strengthen our army, support new players,… We cannot forget what they did. Today THEY ARE BACK ! BE AWARE !
Our current president is one of their members : Grinch85, today Highst is already running for presidency of our country under the party name : The Council.
Don’t fool yourself : they certainly don’t have good intentions.
2 – The movement for Belgium
We don’t know much yet about this party. Only a few things are known for the moment and they don’t give me much hope. We are today fighting for a free Belgium, a Belgium free of all foreign influence. We accept foreign aid, but this party doesn’t seem to be only aid.
For the moment, we can see that they have 7 members, if you check there newspapers and shouts, you will see that at LEAST 4 of their members are polish. Polish, the nationality of the people who conquered half of Europe, the nationality of the most powerful country in the world. Why are they here…
Since the beginning of our freedom, no official article was published. There party is unknown and doesn’t participate in the active political debate going on. We don’t know nothing about them, and as I like to think : NO news, BAD news.
I’d like to give them a shot, please if one of their members reads this : publish an article presenting your views about Belgium. Show us that you are trustworthy. Show that you are willing to work for the greater good and not just exploit our country. Show us that you care about what is going on. SPEAK to the people who will vote for you !
3 – The National Democratic Front
Facts, the highest level members of their party are NOT Belgian. They are :
2 romanian
1 irish
1 polish
1 Lithuanian
1 Swiss
And for the other it is hard to determine, but they are all low levels and thus have more probability of being real Belgians. But the facts are there : a lot of them are pro-EDEN supporters. Read there newspapers, even if you only read the one of their PP you will see. Don’t forget that it is EDEN that is nowadays taking control of nearly whole Europe.
This is also the most active party in Belgium for the moment, and they are the most trustworthy of all. BUT don’t trust them completely, they haven’t proven yet what they are worth. We can read a lot of words in the newspaper, words that are showing good signs. They are indeed asking for a free Belgium, they seem to have a plan, but can we be sure that they are not lying?
Some facts tend to prove that they are foreigners just here to take control of our country. We don’t have a party of the moment that is led by the Croatian that “Freed” our country. The relation if it’s PP with the high EDEN officials, they even admit that he is in close collaboration with them (“in order to prevent us from being attacked”, which is rather surprising as we are surrounded by EDEN, that EDEN paid for the RW, that most of Belgians ARE EDEN, I think everyone will be able to take the right conclusions !).
We may only know when the election starts, what their REAL intentions are (NOT what they are announcing in the newspaper). But don’t be fooled, once we discover it will probably be too late to change something.
Furthermore, some of their members are pretending to be member of the Belgian Revolutionary Party. A party well known to those who fought against the group, and now exiled in the eUK. Until the clear affiliation with EDEN, this party has always been in favor of a free Belgium FOR Belgians, WITHOUT foreigners. Have they changed their minds? Are they also mistaken for the moment? Do they really know who they are working with? We don’t know, clarifications may be in order !
4 – Conclusion
For the moment, no party seems to stand out as a REAL Belgian Party. Two of the parties are really not looking good for a future in Belgium, one is standing on the crossing line. It shows signs of good will in the papers, with real Belgians in their ranks, BUT also clear signs of foreign influence. Isn’t this foreign influence what we especially DON’T want for Belgium? Don’t we want a FREE Belgium?
There statements seem contradictory in certain points. We will have to monitor the situation closely the next few days. New parties may arise, parties may disappear. We are now at a turning point, keep your eyes and mind open. Stay alert. Don’t be fooled easily.
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Comments
thank you - finally someone telling the truth about Belgian politics. As for EDEN conquering a Belgian Belgium - the cost of the war declaration and for soldiers for the RW would be lots of wasted gold, so in a way would still be a victory against their EDEN oppressors.
Great article! Vote+sub
As a representative of the BRP, I would like to strongly protest against the claim that my party is EDEN affiliated. The Belgian Revolutionary Party always stood for an independent and neutral eBelgium, and will not support independency if it would mean becoming a vazal of one world bloc alliance or the other.
Under the current circumstances we chose to send a deligation of our people (by "pretend" you probably mean "claim", since NFRonny, Wout and uaithne are active commissioners for the BRP, let there be no doubt about it) to ensure a representation of true eBelgians in Congress, which is of utmost importance for the future of this nation. Unualibro, the man who started the RW and founded the National Democratic Front, although a prominent EDEN figure, as he states himself, strongly encourages the presence of real Belgians in the government, and at least this point speaks in his favour. Still, choosing for the pragmatic and constructive approach doesn't mean that the BRP or its members turned to the side of EDEN. We'll maintain our cautious attitude towards the foreign "liberators", and won't spare any criticism if needed, but the current situation asks for dialogue and cooperation, in the best interests of our nation.
If by Irish you refer to uaithne, I will assure you that she is a true Belgian. She may not live in Leuven or Liege in real life, but she had eBelgian citizenship under the martial law of The Group, and as a member of the BRP she stood up against their tyranny. I can assure you of her integrity and commitment for this nation.
Thank you Aldous, at least a clear answer. In your answer I recognize the BRP i knew from the time under The Group. I do not contest or attack the BRP, your clarifications made some elements perfectly clear and will clarify a lot the current situation.
Still, Unlalibro isn't a Belgian and even if he "Encourages the presence of real Belgians in the government", he doesn't state that it will be a country for the Belgians, ruled by Belgians. It may only be a way of interpretation, but it still is a good point I am making. Do you believe that he could have started the RW without the monetary support of EDEN? Would EDEN agree if he hadn't a good motivation for doing this? Brussels hasn't a strategic position and for the military purpose, the logic seems lost.
By joining yourself at is party, and official supporting him I think you may have lost a little of the "Cautious" attitude you are prowning. Be attentive, but I fear that one day we will come to late to discover his real actions. The positive point is that, apparently, only members that BRP trusts and that are real Belgians are running for congress.
And for Uaithne, I didn't count here as Irish, there is someone else. Check his Newspaper, the name is very explicit.
Now lets wait for the other parties to react, if they do.
I vote for you!
Voted and subscribed. Great articles Apotygma!
Well, Apotygma, I checked his donations list, and it isn't very extensive - I have all reasons to assume that unualibro payed for the RW with his own Gold, just as he states here:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/who-wants-to-help-belgium--1153749/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/who-[..]1/20
Also, from different sources I have picked up that he does stand for an eBelgium for and by true eBelgians, but of course we will have to find it out when the time comes - I must admit I'm neither a prophet nor an oracle 😉 Still, "supporting" him (although, we haven't written any contract in blood, we didn't promise to make any concessions to him or pledged our allegiance to EDEN) we got a place to run for Congress in eBelgium. It can only result in true eBelgians in the government of our nation, if the voters will show their trust for NFRonny, Wout and uaithne. As I've written in a comment to a different article, we only have a chance if we get busy and do something, because if we don't, nothing will change. We won't lose anything if we try, we can only win something.
And thanks for starting a dialogue here, it is something that this nation needs right now. I hope other parties will join and make their intentions clear.
A very interesting analysis, though the cards have changed.
Vote, but I hope you change your point of view.
An explanation, you can find in my newspaper.
Greetings,
NFRonny.
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Take good care. eCroats will dafinitely try to TO Belgium Congress. And you know what that means. It means that eBelgium will NOT be neutral, as most of you in eBelgium wish.
I really wish you good luck on next elections.
Hi, Im from Spain, i Dont want that think that i come to belgium to protect his sovereignty from EDEN or from PEACE, im a memeber of The National Democratic, because I read it from http://www.erepublik.com/es/newspaper/lost-in-transition-188162/1" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/es/newspaper/lo[..]62/1
and i talk with the writer of the article about the posibility of TO in Belgium, I dont want that Belgium will be a member of EDEN or Pro EDEN, i come here as muself and I only want to help.
this is my article of spain:
http://www.erepublik.com/es/article/ayudemos-a-belgica-a-evitar-un-to-demostremos-lo-grande-que-es-espa-a-1156057/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/es/article/ayud[..]/1/20
Osculton, I've read your article - such idealism and solidarity is heartwarming to see. I hope we will manage to avoid a PTO.
On an different note, it is somewhat ironic that your avatar is a puppet - it's a word that gets thrown around a lot in these parts 😉
Front National Demoratic Ce parti ne représente PAS la Belgique !!
ça débarque de gauche à droite et ça ne parle pas une des 3 langues nationales, allez, quelle blague !!!
Les VRAIS Belges, ils est temps de vous mobiliser !!!
Rejoignez le parti "Belgium for Belgians", tout est dans le titre [du parti 😉] !!
PS:: gamiiiin, gamiiiiiin, revient, c'était pour rire, va'pas rester ds s'bois ts seul...!!! les vrais comprendrons 😉
Third time I've read this comment under different articles - that's called spamming. Plase stay polite, and stop, Blackshark.
Hey blackshark : I truly believe that NDF is going to fight for the Belgians. Don't say things that are not true, you are hurting the credibility of your party
Oculton : Thanks for the call in Spain (I can read Spanish), but don't forget that Belgian for Belgians is also a pro-Belgian party. NDF will confirm that they are both working for the best of Belgium. I know you joined them, but they are not alone.
So, or please call the spanish to also vote for Belgium for Belgians, or I will retract the promise I did : Ask Navy and SF to vote also for NDF.
It will be that soldiers from Eden and Phoenix will decide who will come in Belgium congress. No democracy will be in Belgium, no viable state I think will arise from soldiers votes.
It will be that soldiers from Eden and Phoenix will decide who will come in Belgium congress. No democracy will be in Belgium, no viable state I think will arise from soldiers votes.
It will be that soldiers from Eden and Phoenix will decide who will come in Belgium congress. No democracy will be in Belgium, no viable state I think will arise from soldiers votes.
It will be that soldiers from Eden and Phoenix will decide who will come in Belgium congress. No democracy will be in Belgium, no viable state I think will arise from soldiers votes.
It will be that soldiers from Eden and Phoenix will decide who will come in Belgium congress. No democracy will be in Belgium, no viable state I think will arise from soldiers votes.
It will be that soldiers from Eden and Phoenix will decide who will come in Belgium congress. No democracy will be in Belgium, no viable state I think will arise from soldiers votes.
It will be that soldiers from Eden and Phoenix will decide who will come in Belgium congress. No democracy will be in Belgium, no viable state I think will arise from soldiers votes.
Niemcy wywołali RW - słuchaj się rozkazów MON-u:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-roz[..]/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-roz[..]/1/20 PODAJ DALEJ!
BIJ WYŁĄCZNIE W ZIELONE !
Niemcy wywołali RW - słuchaj się rozkazów MON-u:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-roz[..]/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-roz[..]/1/20 PODAJ DALEJ!
BIJ WYŁĄCZNIE W ZIELONE !
Niemcy wywołali RW - słuchaj się rozkazów MON-u:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-roz[..]/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-roz[..]/1/20 PODAJ DALEJ!
BIJ WYŁĄCZNIE W ZIELONE !
seems like the comment system lagged abit lately 🙂
I hope many people read this and vote wisely, I support the NDF and I firmly believe those who are not from eBelgium in that party still stand for the eBelgian independence and not for a TO.
Blackshark : avec une bière?
tu dois être wallon toa 🙂
sinon je le marque en français car mon anglais de l'école n'est pas terrible. Il faut vraiment une mobilisation de personnes qui ne soient pas égoistes et qui ne veulent pas faire de la propagande pour Eden ou Phoenix. Des personnes qui voient l'intérêt du pays avant toute chose.
we want persons who want freedom for belgium and not in the side of eden or phoenix, neutral before all. Thegroup was an opressor and put our money in their group or on monatery market. Don't speak about them to me...