(AM/EN/RU) - How the childish behaviour of the Founders Party endangers Armenia!
Day 2,383, 07:11
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by Zhirayr
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Barev dzez ungerner jan.Es mi kani ora Founders Party cuic tvin mez inchkan shat en yzym mer petuciun@ graven.Haystanin davajanin,vor karanan ashaten iranc iskakan petyciuni hamar turkia.Himi k bacatrem.Irank shahin Founders Party congreei kes@ ev haitararin haystani hekavarner.Yev yzecan hekavaren ym karank grancym tanq yev ym ch@ tanq.Comisia stehcin vor amin mi partian mart yharki asen ov kara lini kahakaci.Yes ch@ havataci iranc hoskerin.Verchym yes ei chisht@.Skusan turkerin kahakaciycun tan.Yev nuin martik ov vor stehcec comisian hrajarvec et mtadrucunic.
.PS. Just as I was writing this article, our "friend" officially asked his PTO buddies to join him....
"Machiavelli wrote 13 hours ago
Please everyone call your friends to eArmenia and our party!
Anyone who wants to join the Armenians. A good party. "
(Sorry, but armenian translation is incomplete, I have to release this article now and it is hard to write in armenian that most people can understand. I will add the rest of it shortly, for now, please enjoy the russian or english version.)
Hello, friends and comrades. During the past few days, the Armenian Founding Party has demonstrated repeatedly their obsession with power, and they have betrayed some of the most basic principles of cooperation. They have betrayed Armenia, in the interest of their real homeland - Turkey. Let me explain how.
Ever since they won a slim majority in the Congress Election, the Founders Party declared themselves "the legitimate representatives of Armenia". We always challenged this, but we wanted to cooperate anyway. It started out relatively well, until the Founders Party decided to tell other parties who they can and can't give citizenship to.
They made a "commission", in which we were all required to send delegates to, which allowed them to veto any citizenship proposal we could give. In return, they promised to allow us to veto any of their proposals. I was instantly skeptical that they would keep their word, and I decided to keep my party's independence and not recognize it's legitimacy. After all, the people not only gave them mandates, they also gave us mandates, and who are they to take this away.
Of course, I was right. As soon as it came time for them to start letting Turks into the country, the commission was declared "illegal" by the same people who made it, and the representatives of the other parties were kicked out. This is the statement they gave.
And the Armenian Founders Party started giving away CS to whoever they wanted.
So I, +Jus7 Me on behalf of the Communist Party met with the leaders of the National and Freedom Parties and we reached an agreement (the details of which I will soon make an article on), but in short, we agreed to all back one candidate for the presidential elections.
As soon as this was done, this is what the person we chose as a candidate recieved from the Party President of the Founders Party:
As you can see, in Machiavelli's world, cooperation with any other party than the founders party is considered PTO.
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I find this very ironic, since Machiavelli himself comes from Turkey. And an active turk at that.
So a Turk comes to Armenia, and starts calling other people PTOers, because they simply cooperated with parties that aren't his. Boo-hoo, cry baby, cry.
Furthermore, check the profiles of the Founding Party's top brass. Look specifically at the countries they have "True Patriot" medals for, and, if you have time, their friends list.
Turks, turks, turks everywhere. I don't know about you, but this stinks of putch.
So as it seems the "native armenian party that is anti-PTO" is made out of 50% Turks and 50% people who were fooled by what the party really represents.. How "great" for our country...
This is a call to all real armenians out there, as well as to anyone that wants to help Armenia, and not just conquer it, or conduct a PTO - stand up to this nonsense, say NO to the turks that self-declared themselves "legitimate" and disregard everyone else in the country.
Very soon, there will be an official article on the Triple Coalition between the Armenian Communist Party, Armenian Freedom Party, and National Party of Armenia. A coalition of dignity in the face of tyranny, and a coalition of people with varying backgrounds, all united under one cause - to stop this turkish PTO!
All new movements, wether political or otherwise are invited to join us. We want to build an Armenia of reason and decency, not one that answers to the sublime porte!
PS. Just as I was writing this article, our "friend" officially asked his PTO buddies to join him....
"Machiavelli wrote 13 hours ago
Please everyone call your friends to eArmenia and our party!
Anyone who wants to join the Armenians. A good party. "
Здравствуйте, друзья и товарищи. В течение последних нескольких дней, Armenian Founding Party неоднократно демонстрировала одержимость силой и они предали некоторые из самых основных принципов взаимодействия. Они предали Армению в интересах своей настоящей родины - Турции. Позвольте мне объяснить как.
С того момента, когда они выиграли небольшое большинство на выборах в конгресс, Партия основателей объявила себя "легитимными представителями Армении". Мы всегда считали это вызывающим, но в любом случае хотели взаимодействовать. Это началось отностительно хорошо, пока Партия основателей не решила диктовать другим партиям кому они могут и не могут выдавать гражданства.
Они создали "комиссию", в которую от всех требовалось направить представителей, которая позволяла им блокировать любое предложение по гражданству от нас. В обмен на это, они обещали нам право блокировать любое из их предложений. Я всегда скептически относился к тому, что они сдержат свое слово, и решил соблюсти независимость моей партии и не признал легитимность комиссии. В конце концов, люди выдали мандаты не только им, но и нам и кто они такие, чтобы отнимать наши мандаты.
Конечно, я оказался прав. Как только настало время начать впускать турок в страну, комиссия была объявлена "незаконной" теми же людьми, кто создавал ее и представители из других партий были исключены. Вот их заявление.
И Armenian Founders Party начала выдавать гражданства тем, кому хотят.
Поэтому я +Jus7 Me, от имени Коммунистической партии встретился с лидерами Национальной партии и Пратии свободы, и мы достигли соглашения (детали которого я так же скоро опишу в статье), но коротко, мы все согласились выдвинуть одного кандидата на президенствкие выборы.
Как только это было сделано, вот что наш кандидат получил от ПП партии основателей:
Как вы можете видеть, в мире Machiavelli, взаимодействие с любой другой партией, кроме партии основателей, считается ТО.
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Я нахожу это очень ироничным, поскольку сам Machiavelli пришел из Турции. И был там активным турком
Турок приходит в Армению и начинает называть других людей ТОшниками, потому что они просто координируются с другими партиями. Ууууууу, плачь детка, плачь.
Кроме того, проверьте профили верхушки Партии учредителей. Отдельно посмотрите на страны, за которые они получили медали патриота и, если у вас есть время, их список друзей.
Турки, турки, везде турки. Не знаю как вам, но пахнет мятежом.
Так что кажется "настоящая армянская партия которая анти-ТО" сделана из 50% турок и других 50% обманутых вступивших в фальшивую партию. Как "замечательно" для нашей страны...
Это призыв ко всем настоящим армянам отттуда, а таrже ко всем, кто хочет помочь Армении, а не только завоевать ее или провести ТО - без разницы, скажите НЕТ туркам, которые сами провозгласили себя "законными" и игнорируют всех остальных в стране.
Очень скоро появится официальная статья Тройной коалиции между Армянской коммунистической партией, Армянской партии свободы и Национальной партией Армении. Коалиция достоинства перед лицом тираниии, коалиция людей с разным прошлым, объединеными одной причиной - остановить турецкое ТО!
Все новые движения, политические или иные, приглашены присоединиться. мы хотим построить Армению разума и порядочности, а не ту, которая нужна оттоманской порте.
PS. Just as I was writing this article, our "friend" officially asked his PTO buddies to join him....
"Machiavelli wrote 13 hours ago
Please everyone call your friends to eArmenia and our party!
Anyone who wants to join the Armenians. A good party. "
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The truth has been spoken and the real PTO'er revealed... chose the right side Armenians, not the PTO side.
Voted.
Armenian Freedom Party supports real Armenians in the fight against PTO attempts.
Committee granting citizenships was the first structure created in the newly established Armenia. We all agreed on its shape. Unfortunately, Machiavelli could not influence its decisions, so his party decided to dissolve the committee. It was a clear violation of democracy. I shudder to think what this man will do to our country if he becomes cp.
Another issue is the yesterday's meeting of the congress at which Machavielli tried to discredit my party submitting fake screenshot. He tried to convince congress that I give cs without comittee decision.
Fortunately, I have met already at this man and I prepared myself for his attack. I showed to congress a real screenshot of the decision committee for granting citizenships. After I showed what a lier he is Machavielli dissolved the committee.
You decide what kind of a man he is.
And after his saw that if we cooperate together he can lose, he started calling half of the nations and all who disagree with him a PTOers, as he is some kind of dictator.
Additionally, he pushing the idea of a neutral country without ANY MPP. We will be helpless like a lamb waiting for the butcher if his homeland Turkey decide to attack us.
They have a lot of multies that is problem too.But the armenians from diasporas are here and wate for cs we will work together .AND THEY CANT STOP US
I think that's the point, for his turkish homeland to annex us, while we are helpless....
For Freedom!
Makiavelli states that the real Armenians which are in the Communist party along with us, as a friends are a ptoers, and he as a turk is not.
Don't want to say anything against you guys, but if AFP is at least 50% non-armenian, check the comments above and tell me the percentage of native armenian comments
I can see Zhirayr and jus7 m3, commenting.... the one that Maciavelli called PTOers.
But the other commentators (me including) are foreigners as well.
i don't deny that, i deny the statement that all other then AFP members are PTOers.
man, we don't have enough RL Armenians at the moment.
I'm just wanting to make sure that there are enough other nationalities that could become PTO'ers and that we should stop agitate against one group of people. Because in many countries, this behaviour (and nothing else) was the reason, why friendly foreigners became PTO'ers and oppressors
sure, there is risk. At the same time 10 Armenians could not control country with 200+ citizens. We have to cooperate with other groups
AFP is 99%.% non armenians be sure 😉
Be sure, be sure... Honestly, before replying I advise you to think about your arguments.
Then proove it. that you are armenian .merakunac bozi tha 😉 .I dont know armenians with name hassan 😉
Check the list of native Armenians and check how many are in AFP. 7 of 11 are not really proving that AFP is 99% non-Armenian. I'm no Armenian in RL. I'm just a silly Lebanese who lived among the Armenian diaspora for many years. But I'm here to help. And what I see here is a danger of PTO from more than one (or even more than two) factions. What we need is unity and not this sh*t here
We didn't say at any point we're Armenia in RL. We choose to be Armenian in game and we treat Armenia like our new home. We are active members of congress, we help establish laws, we disscuss with other about possible mpps. We cooperate with other parties for our country's sake.
You can not say that all foreign players have bad intentions and only think about PTO.
Удачи в вашей борьбе, скажем нет ТО!
Armenia needs baby boom.
you shouldn't be surprised
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lol. all noobs there. support rl fyromian player against native armenian and call yourself real armenians, albus acısı geçmedi mi hala yavrum 🙂
First PTOers, than noobs, nice to know what you really think of the Armenians...
you are fyromian 🙂
That explains what kind of person you are, calling me bad names about my country can only damage your reputation, not mine. Keep that in mind 😉
nice. its your country's official name 🙂
" A number of countries recognise the country by its constitutional name – the Republic of Macedonia – rather than the UN reference, notably four of the five permanent UN Security Council members (the UK, the United States,[7] Russia, and the People's Republic of China) and over 130 other UN members.[8] "
Do the "native armenians" in your party all speak TURKISH? 😃
whos talking? a player can be russian congressman also native armenian, but can't be turkish mofa, lol. also "communist" party never accepted that committee thing and has given citizenships except permission. find another way to smearing guys. i call you "noobs" cause of that. there is no need for more discussion. you know the quote about dont argue with... 🙂 good luck
Go back to turkey, turkey has always wanted to conquer Armenia, it is time that it is independent!
🙂 There is no PTO in this game . there are just bad (stealing or doing everything for power ) or good intentions
When i come on irc in the first congress meeting i didnt see eve one Armenian IP . ( on mibit you can see that ) . The most of the ips what is see was turkis whit those members who are in HQ in The Founding party . So how they get native citizenships ? Idn but something is not right .
I doubt that there are any actual citizens of Armenia here, but IP proves nothing. I have Lebanese IP, other Armenians here have Bulgarian IP's, does that make me or them any less Armenian?
But that make you native citizen ... I dont have nothing for that but just want to say that there was noone from Armenia .
I thought you would know. The absolute majority of Armenians live outside Armenia.
"Turks, turks, turks everywhere. I don't know about you, but this stinks of putch."
LOL WHAT A COMMUNIST REALLY.
fck this i am gonna leave ur party and join founders.
fine. Be together
Ahshaha. pashol na hui bozi tha ahaha
just a game ..relax
This is an attack against the highest body of the state, congress, elected by the people.
And I do not admit that decisions of the Congress are confused by partisan interests.
And secondly it is a great hypocrisy and disrespect, a party which from the beginning refused this committee now be complaining.
It's sad to see such situations where one party accuses the other by disrespectful legitimate decisions. The AFP has majority in Congress, but that is because the people wanted it that way.
No, this certainly is not that, this is attack against one person, a person who accuses real Armenians of being PTOers, a person who thinks that he own the country. Nothing more, nothing less.
Such a Pavlovian reaction, I am not sure if I should laugh or cry.
I will comment on one point only: Check citizenships given by each party and you will see everyone going along ethnic lines (their own ethnicity, of course). After doing that, check citizenships given by our party, and you will see .... Surpirse ! ! ! somebody from every country, and yet, what they see (or rather want YOU to see) the two Turkish citizenships given. Yeah, yeah, ignore all the others, those two Turks are going to PTO. Do the math guys, do the math. I really am sad to see facts mis-represented this way.
Yeah, let the turks into the country, hypocrites. "Ethnic armenians" my ass.
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Your behind does not interest me.
Just so you understan😛
Hadagt zis chi hedakrkrer