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[New Era] New Era Shadow Cabinet

Tag 1,995, 11:24 Veröffentlicht in United Kingdom Großbritannien von Sven Goran Duran-Duran

Firstly, New Era and I, personally, would like to congratulate Acroc on his victory in the CP elections.




I can't remember a last time a candidate had such widespread support - and that it is a PCP man is something that I think gives a lot of hope to smaller parties.

New Era were happy to support such a capable candidate again.





Given that Acroc had so much support, applications for ministerial positions were high and some missed out but I was a little disappointed that more New Era members did not apply for more roles.

I know many of you that are ready to take the jobs on tomorrow if called on and when especially new players don't have the confidence or feel they don't have the experience to apply it hurts the eUK.





As such and as per my manifesto for Party President of New Era, I now announce the creation of the New Era Shadow Cabinet.


There are a number of goals for the New Era Shadow Cabinet:

1) to train up newer New Era players who may be unfamiliar with the mechanics of government and want to know more about a particular role - no strings attached.

2) in the bigger ministries (such as MoFA where prior experience may be important), shadow ministers would be expected to train their deputies whilst also encouraging the current Government when it is doing things well and also pointing out how New Era would do things differently in that particular area when the Government could maybe do better via constructive and focused criticism.

3) to provide a platform for future New Era Ministers of Government



There will be no shadow CP in this Cabinet.

This is not just because we support Acroc in his job as CP but also because the role would overshadow (pun intended!) the other roles and would cause overlap in dealing with analysis of a particular Government department.

Indeed, anyone that wanted run for CP probably already has experience in Government and is likely not to need to join the shadow Cabinet in order to gain more.


You can apply for roles within the New Era Shadow Cabinet - however, only New Era members should apply please.

Just drop me a pm.



So far the New Era Shadow Cabinet looks like this:


MoFA ChewChewShoe
dMoFA (applications wanted)

MoD Don Dapper
dMoD (applications wanted)

MoF Goku Jones
dMoF (applications wanted)

MoHA (applications wanted)
dMoHA (applications wanted)

MoEd (applications wanted)

MoH (applications wanted)



If you have any interest in any other roles I have not listed, please just let me know.




The Party President of New Era - i.e. me - picks the Cabinet although I hope if this works, future PPs of New Era will continue the idea and reshuffle :)

Applications close on 9th May, 12pm UK time.


Finally, if you want to be part of the decision making body of New Era - the New Era Council, please just reply to my response below.

Any New Era member can join and I will include you in the group discussions.



Sven

*edit - shadow Cabinet now chosen and a constitution is being discussed - see here





 

Kommentare

Sven Goran Duran-Duran
Sven Goran Duran-Duran Tag 1,995, 11:25

if you are not a member of the New Era Council and want to be, pls reply here.

Any New Era member can join and I will include you in the group in-game pm.

Alphabethis
Alphabethis Tag 1,995, 11:36

great initiative to build an alternative... and provide with ideas to government, as in real world.

Bohemond4
Bohemond4 Tag 1,995, 18:48

your in the freakin' government...

wigibob
wigibob Tag 1,996, 08:33

*sigh* you used to be a good player bohemond but now you are just another TUP troll, what happened?

Othere
Othere Tag 1,995, 11:42

Except for Chewie, this article is full of fail.

You may call me V
You may call me V Tag 1,995, 11:51

Voted Good Stuff !

BigAnt
BigAnt Tag 1,995, 11:58

Great idea! Come on New Era and new players alike, get involved!

Jamie2721
Jamie2721 Tag 1,995, 13:06

Voted, good idea sven

NT Games
NT Games Tag 1,995, 13:21

This is a great oportunity for new players to kick in. Although many suggested me to apply, I would like to see more new faces that can cope with the hate from other parties, so we form strong characters, good enough to represent and defend the spirit of NewEra.

The Cyber Assassin
The Cyber Assassin Tag 1,995, 14:18

That excludes me then! lol But, I really love New Era!

Malkaiser
Malkaiser Tag 1,996, 04:38

I think you both should! You are still a new face NT Games!

CheetahCurtis
CheetahCurtis Tag 1,995, 13:38

Good idea! I don't know whether or not New Era has had any party discussions about it but I think people should be able to apply for all positions, and not some players being handed certain positions(MoF, MoD, MoFA), it would make it a bit fairer. Like I said it is a good idea and I will be interested to see what happens with this shadow cabinet.

Sven Goran Duran-Duran Tag 1,995, 13:43

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Bohemond4
Bohemond4 Tag 1,995, 18:47

since I have joined, most positions have been handed on merit...

Sven Goran Duran-Duran
Sven Goran Duran-Duran Tag 1,995, 13:56

Thanks for the constructive feedback CheetahCurtis - although in the roles u mentioned (apart from maybe MoD), I do want people who can step up and do the job tomorrow if needed. This is because I want them to have the experience to train their deputies and I also want them to be able to give constructive and informed praise and criticism on the difficult areas of Foreign Affairs and Finance in particular. If the feedback is that New Era members wanna go with a relatively inexperienced shadow MoD, I'd be just as happy with that. Don is very busy anyway with the Army too.

WayneKerr
WayneKerr Tag 1,995, 14:30

Does the 'shadow' MoF know which orgs are being used for the MM and how much is invested on each org and what times they are put on the market? Otherwise all Goku can really do as 'shadow' MoF is bookkeep...

Malkaiser
Malkaiser Tag 1,996, 04:40

No imagination Wayne. I have schemes in mind and haven't even accepted the role yet!

I don't understand why I need to know that stuff anyway, not like the MoF will have me doing any of it! I just need the data the MoF releases and that I create myself.

Bohemond4
Bohemond4 Tag 1,995, 14:11

lol'd

you only get experience when you work in the role, then you retain tat experience. Without the facts I have as Minister of Defence, or the knowledge, how can Dapper expect to have the same ideas/come to the decisions he needs to without that knowledge or certainty.

Shadow governments are pointless and will only detract from your members actually applying for roles. All roles are, usually, chosen on merit of the CP candidate, if you don't apply, how can you expect to demand or expect a position in the government?

Frerk
Frerk Tag 1,996, 01:17

The idea of a shadow cabinet if done well is actually pretty good, but the 'if done well' part already conflicts with the definition of a shadow cabinet.

Sven Goran Duran-Duran
Sven Goran Duran-Duran Tag 1,996, 02:34

voted. i sense something constructive in there.

Bohemond4
Bohemond4 Tag 1,996, 02:42

if they do it well, they should be the government, but with no xp, they won't do as good a job as they would studying and learning from those experienced members...

Frerk
Frerk Tag 1,996, 03:31

Well I'm sure ACroc would welcome everybody to be a member of government if only he had the place for them, no? I don't think having 20 Ministers of Home Affairs would be a very productive construction. There's just not enough work to warrant having loads of deputies unless you like to let them do small tasks(Which some would call useless). As such we should welcome any kind of initiative that helps train people.

If it works, it's great. If it doesn't work it's not your issue, so what's the problem?

Malkaiser
Malkaiser Tag 1,996, 04:41

MoD doesn't do anything anyway?

Bohemond4
Bohemond4 Tag 1,996, 04:44

then why complain about no experience etc,,,,

Malkaiser
Malkaiser Tag 1,996, 04:46

You tell me Mr.Complainypants

You may call me V
You may call me V Tag 1,996, 05:57

would all minsters reframe from flaming in real life you would lose your job over your trolling ==shame on you minister !

Douglas Mckeever
Douglas Mckeever Tag 1,996, 10:03

Given past history, I suspect it will be more of a 'trolling cabinet' but I shall give them the benefit of the doubt and hope that they prove me wrong. It's also a little presumtive to try to take credit for AC's victory, when New Ego only backed them a couple of days before the election (or was it one day? Need to check) when it became clear that a New Ego candidate couldn't win.

Sven Goran Duran-Duran
Sven Goran Duran-Duran Tag 1,996, 12:35

rubbish - I'm congratulating him for gaining "widespread support". As for New Era, we've supported the PCP and its candidates pretty much since we existed - so there's no change there for us anyway.

WayneKerr
WayneKerr Tag 1,995, 14:27

i did lol at the retarded idea...

You may call me V
You may call me V Tag 1,996, 01:18

all you do is all LOL ,, you are rename to Trollol

Dr_Revenue
Dr_Revenue Tag 1,995, 16:27

▄▀ INFO Minutes ▄▀

Why are Eurofags using a comma instead of a dot when marking a decimal place?!

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/eurofag-comma-v-dot-2257589/1/20

anomalous_result
anomalous_result Tag 1,995, 16:57

Apparent trolls are apparent. FFS the first thing anyone's done for a while to try and add a bit of dynamism to eUK's politics and it gets shouted down by the expected lolminati. Adding credulent discourse to the debate is really important to bring the eUK together again. auto-NE neighsayers discredit themselves by attacking this.

Bohemond4
Bohemond4 Tag 1,995, 18:47

How is this going to realistically grant experience and discourse?

How are people going to learn without access to Orgs?

How are people going to learn about FA? Or the MoD without the knowledge that Ministers have access to? How are people going to learn to manage millions of GBP across multiple Orgs?

The only way is through government work. Unless you can explain how this is going to work, it seems pointless and futile.

Stryper9
Stryper9 Tag 1,995, 18:00

V27

N W G
N W G Tag 1,996, 01:07

I know this may sound a bit out there,

but if you want to work in a dept like MOD then perhaps its a better idear to message the people in the MOD area and ask to work as a understudy or simple just hang around them and learn from watching them and get their advise.

Instead of having someone like Don whos proven many times before he cant even handle MU orders properly let alone never worked in MOD or know any of the goings on and lines of communication the MOD need to have with other countries and alliance HQ's.

Why Divide more and learn how its not done when a simple mail could have you actually really working in the REAL government.

You may call me V
You may call me V Tag 1,996, 01:25

Someone like Don lol,, this someone who has created a top party oh and a top unit supplies over 100 people each day and has changed the UK landscape , , --Jog on

Bohemond4
Bohemond4 Tag 1,996, 02:44

who refuses to work with the MoD because his ego is bigger than the nation...

your unit is only good because of supplies...which anyone can do. Being Minister of Defence requires more knowledge and access to more information than you, as not Minister, or even working with the Ministry, do not have. Though, you could probably do the job justice tbf...

You may call me V
You may call me V Tag 1,996, 05:56

This is a New Era article you have nothing to do with New Era , I refuse to work with you as we are not in the armed forces simple as that , and you are wrong are unit is good due to the hard work put in sonny Jim over the last 10 months which half the time you wasn't even playing or was you ? again we have here a Minster who INSULTS and trolls being in charge of the MOD you shouldn't do that and should know better , I will be having a word with the CP over how you act ! awful player you are.

jamesw
jamesw Tag 1,997, 03:07

Hardly a great attitude to take with new players. This idea would be good, if it wasn't a) restricted to one party and b) already including players who have no need to 'gain experience'. If they really wanted to help, they would be in government.

Sir Humphrey Appleby
Sir Humphrey Appleby Tag 1,996, 04:30

Sounds like a good idea if you can keep it going

A better one would be to directly work in the government :p

Mr Woldy
Mr Woldy Tag 1,996, 09:12

I'm semi sure this has happened before

Sambo112
Sambo112 Tag 1,996, 09:43

not everyone can apples which is why NE is setting this up

Sven Goran Duran-Duran
Sven Goran Duran-Duran Tag 1,996, 11:39

you'd be surprised how many replies I've had saying "I didn't / wouldn't apply for deputy positions because I don't feel I know enough / don't want to try yet / want to try something first before i buy etc". This is supposed be a platform for New Era members to do just that - work in the Government.

Sir Humphrey Appleby
Sir Humphrey Appleby Tag 1,996, 17:35

Well surely that means they need to work in the department first to get to grips with it? That's how most of us (including you :p) started out

Malkaiser
Malkaiser Tag 1,996, 04:44

Hey trolls, so if this is nessesary I will get a position in the MoF if I apply? Right?? That is what you are saying.

Silly comments.

Danie Fox
Danie Fox Tag 1,996, 09:29

Why don't you apply and find out? You should be able to get an apprentice job.

howdyho
howdyho Tag 1,996, 06:23

id like to be dMOD under don

CptChazbeard
CptChazbeard Tag 1,996, 09:25

If handled correctly this could be a means to develop ideas and strengthen the cases of players when and if they do apply for government...or perhaps lay the foundations of the governmental infrastructure should New Era get a CP.

I'd go further into my take on the weight of experience but ultimately this is an in house decision that isn't hurting anyone; so if they want to get on with it then good luck to them.

Frerk
Frerk Tag 1,996, 14:05

Pretty much what you're saying. I fail to see the problem..

Danie Fox
Danie Fox Tag 1,996, 09:36

I look forward to seeing NE shadow ministers encouraging real ministers when they do well. Will this be done by publishing articles or by writing comments?

 
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