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Good article.Hope you will win if at this elections,but on the next month certainly.

Good luck Rory,you are nice bloke 🙂.

I'd rather you win the next 12 terms and have a breakdown and disappear, at least you'll gather a group of people to work together. Unfortunately I feel you'll support the blowing wind. As a career politician in two countries, surely you can see this is dismantling any job opportunity.

An awful mix of functional conservative government reduction with communist rhetoric, leading us to an epic mess of a hateful proportion that I'd associate with the likes of BA and co.

Why are people walking blindly into this? Crazy scheme to create total democracy ---> absolute power for the CP. Nobody will be assigned to jobs, floundering will ensue and nothing will be achieved.

Being told that you are being given the right to vote everything is crap. It's not a gift you want. I don't want to read thousands of pages of documents for each aspect of government, that's why we pay (public purse) for government, it's their jobs once voted on key issues to handle day-to-day.

We don't have many issues in eRep, and even less that suits the alternative extreme left/right.

Government is a job that allows people to get involved in this game which is a geopolitical simulation, or are we all inhaling the brain-fart and think this is real life.

I wont dissapear and probably you are right by saying all this,and I"ve respected that Michael.

Good luck my friend!

I have no idea how this would work but even if it crashed and burned it'd be fun to watch

I'm struggling to find the words to express just how silly this is. There are a multitude of different systems you could have proposed to change the way the eUK works, and indeed with the dictatorship the possibilities are endless- but you've picked the most unworkable solution.

How would a government with no ministers even work? How would our allies communicate with the government when our MoFA was just a bunch of citizens doing what they fancied? I can guarantee that the basics of government would not be done, such as MoD articles, and all the people in the govt departments would just assume it wasnt their job since they arent actually a minister

Also....as CP you can't actually dissolve Congress. Congress would have to vote to dissolve itself under the current system.

Under our current constitutional Woldean dictatorship, the CP actually has very little say regarding how the country is run. Congress really holds the reins, although because of it's distinctly split personality and the odd idiot, it rarely manages to wield that power.

As a congressman I'd vote to dissolve congress tbf

If Rory got voted in it would imply that the common folk want mongress gone, and mongress are supposed to represent the people so you could use that line to force mongress to dissolve itself and all legislation easy enough.

The minister thing does sound very problematic though

The current system only works because it's a democracy of sorts, if I actually won it would change. It would mean a majority of the population want to dissolve congress and adopt this system. Congress who in theory represent the general population could hardly disagree with the people they represent.

You've been in Congress Rory....as a body it rarely knows what it's doing itself....let alone what's going on outside it's "hallowed" doors.

It would still need to actually vote to dissolve itself and could easily disagree with the "people".

I think it'd be a very interesting start to the month if they did disagree 🙂

#madbants

"How would a government with no ministers even work?"

Pretty much exactly as it does now except one of them wouldn't be called 'minister' and anyone in that department could chip in, in whatever capacity they felt competent in dealing with.

"How would our allies communicate with the government when our MoFA was just a bunch of citizens doing what they fancied?"

I'm assuming they would contact the CP as they do now... It wouldn't be a bunch of people doing anything they fancied, you don't give people enough credit, they would be working together not doing random stuff on there own.

" I can guarantee that the basics of government would not be done, such as MoD articles, and all the people in the govt departments would just assume it wasnt their job since they arent actually a minister"

What do you think happens in the UK? That MU commanders are just sitting around waiting for the MoD to update there orders so they know where to fight? They know what's going on, and so do lots of the people in those MU's. Government plays very little role in where our damage actually goes (see legion today).

'I'm assuming they would contact the CP as they do now..' You are massively understating how much countries will contact an MoFA over a CP, just ask Fata this.

Well, if the MoD is so unimportant, why have you included it in your proposed government?

And with no actual ministers nobody would take responsibility for ministry work, everyone would just shoot off in a dozen different directions with no rhyme or reason to it. And its not like the CP could tell people to get stuff done, because everyone could just shrug their shoulders and say 'not my job'

If the people working in the Foreign Affairs department feel it beneficial to have someone with the title of MoFA on the country page, then that's easily solved.

I didn't say MoD was unimportant, my point was that what you consider the 'basics of government' are less important than your comment seems to suggest.

If you're so concerned you can simply work in any of the departments, that's the point of it.

i disagree with that last statement about legion knowing whats going on, they are fighting heavily in a training war which Im fairly sure ireland are meant to lose today's region...

The last statement was that government doesn't influence where damage goes and legion was an example...dang nabbit Aaron

The dissolving of congress is possible. But that would mean giving the CP the power to move money anywhere at any time so it has risks. Also having a national vote is a good thing but without congress only the CP and/or ministers will have the power to call apon votes. Otherwise we'd just have people trying to make random pointless laws and poor woldy will be overloaded with work.

Unless you can come up with a proper system to how this would work I don't see many people agreeing to this :/

It wouldn't give the CP the right to move money anywhere, congress approval for funds etc being moved/used is being replaced by a vote by everyone. It would work the same for the CP as for anyone in the country who needs funds for an idea, goes to a vote.

As for voting topics, these are messaged to the CP, then published to be voted on to avoid those random pointless laws and woldy being overloaded with work. MPP's for example can be chosen by the UK en mass and pre-approved to save tons of similar articles being published. Might actually save him some time 🙂

Well lets all remember that the CP can't do anything to 'dissolve' congress without congress actually agreeing to it.... and good luck with that

Why do congress need to vote to disolve themself? They are meant to represent the people, if rory is voted in, it is clear that people don't want a congress, and therefore should be removed.

Congress controls legislation, legislation says CP works with mongress, burning legislation requires congress to burn it as they control the legislation, according to... the legislation.

Therefore congress must dissolve itself, but if they refuse you could just ignore them anyway, dictatorship technically means that their word means absolutely nothing, and there's no real consequence to not following legislation.

...how did we even get to this point

Because the constitution we passed months ago very clearly sets out how govt is run and congress would have to approve any changes.

You want to introduce a new system? Sure, but it would have to be approved under the existing systems. That's how it works.

CPs may be elected with a manifesto but they *always* have to have their policies approved by Congress. It's Democracy

o7

I'll work in home affairs

An interesting idea I've got to admit and it would be interesting to see if it would work or not, sounds quite reminiscent of how some of the ancient Greek city states operated.

Anarchism would be a nice change

A great idea Rory. I fear you'll face opposition from our 'betters', who like to keep all the keys to themselves, but you have my support.

/me gives ToniJR a key if he wants it and majority agree he deserves it

Unlike some, Toni has no desire for a key himself.

Just for the eUK community to once again consist of a slightly more disparate group than the current stitch-up (as thoroughly well-deserved as the stitch-up doubtless is 😉 ).

Yes

interesting idea!
i dont know enuff about the game to know if itd work, but it wud be an interesting expeirment

A very bold and interesting concept - but experience suggests that this is unlikely to produce good results.

This is not a proposal that I would support.

The thought of Congress voting to dissolve itself? I don't think so Adolf!

Spoken like a 39 time congressman 😛

I think that I am on either my 50th or 51st term in Congress - the counter thingie was not implemented until over a year after the game started.....

CAMERON STYLE !

Having glanced briefly at the Constitution. your biggest problem would be Congress. The CP cannot ignore Congress and Congress cannot vote to remove itself. Any member resigning would simply remove themselves from the process - there being no minimum to maintain a quorum.

Under the current Constitution the Dictator must abide by the will of Congress and Congress could simply impeach any CP who tried to act against the will of Congress.

Nah they can vote to remove themselves providing they amend/repeal the constitution and all other legislation in some form of mega-vote of doom.

Now I'm not sure if you can do multiple repeals/amendments in one vote like that, however what you can do is submit a legislation piece where in the conditions it says "this act will repeal:" and then you proceed to name every act we've ever done, and then provide some other line in the act, like a pancake recipe or something.

Alternatively one could have every congress member vote to have every other congress member removed from congress, but that would be hilariously messy as you'd need FaP to set up 40 votes and each of the 40 votes requires sponsors...

Of course one must have some serious congress co-operation, as any amendments to the constitution require a 66% majority of votes in favour. Were you to have that, however, and anything is possible. In reality all it would take is one carefully done CP proposed bill as they don't need sponsors. That followed by a motion for the dissolving of congress means you'd have the lot sorted in about... 4 days? Of course if done wrong it technically means we have no set rules for dictatorship in place, and that is where things get hella funky

TL😉R

Step 1: Pancake recipe bill that also repeals everything ever
Step 2: Motion to dissolve congress
Step 3: Carnage

Although now I've just thought you can include dissolving of congress in your pancake bill, which would mean congress could be dissolved in 48 hours theoretically.

Yes, agreed - Congress would need to pass legislation empowering the CP to govern without Congress whilst still ensuring the Dictator held true to the wishes of legislation passed by Congress i.e. the empowerment of the CP.
I can't see a Majority in Congress for changing the Constitution in such circumstances and if there was not a Majority for impeaching the CP you would have a stand off between gov't and Congress which would result in the Dictator acting on the instruction of Congress.

So it's Congress that has the power - unless the Dictator 'goes rogue'

Actually... the dictator has all the power. If woldy agrees that Rory's election to CP means that people want congress to be dissolved, then he can do that. Or he could call for a national vote on whether to follow Rory's system, it is entirely up to him.

Or the eUK could just remove Woldy and instate a new dictator willing to what the eUK wants (of course if they want this).

Also to add that breaking legislation has zero consequence, take example the Woldys Angels bill which the gov hasn't been following at all.

Always thought the point of electing a CP was that they would make the decisions. Decisions should not be left to the likes of me.
Anyway at least you had the energy to write an article.The political module with Dictatorship is a joke and has gone a long way to destroying this game.
Still you may well be the best of a mediocre bunch.