The Expanded Delegation Act
Day 4,842, 10:28
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by NicholasVincent
Within the confines of the capital forums, I have posted a discussion that I would also like to know the general opinion of. For this month I was made a delegate for Congress, it has opened my eyes as a new player to the game within the game and it's something I've really liked, it's added a layer to the game that I was very much missing. Congress though could be a much bigger and more inclusive place though, and I think that it should be. Because afterall this is a game, and the goal is to have fun. With the lack of population I think it's more important than ever to have voices heard and people included!
A LOT of talking is done in this place about peace, and about building a community and getting rid of old grudges. I think the best way to do this is by interacting with one another positively and getting to know one another. Congressional debate and discussion can be a great way to do this, and with the new Ultimate Congressional Roleplay Act congress members are supposed to meet on voice chat to discuss matters. The first week had 10 people show up, my hope is that by allowing many more delegates and allowing parties outside of the top 5 to participate it will harbor a new culture of productiveness and collaboration.
The Expanded Delegation Act
The Expanded Delegation Act is a step toward inclusion and hoping to have more minds working on a solution rather than sitting on the sideline bickering about the problems there are. I am proposing two things within the act:
1. Allow up to 5 delegates for all top 5 parties.
(In doing so I hope that newer players such as myself are given a chance to participate and learn about the intricate process of eLaw and policy. As well as every top party having adequate representation.)
2. Allow 3 delegates for any non-top 5 party with more than 20 members.
(In doing this it is hoped that the parties, that are not top 5 but still substantial in size are given a chance to represent themselves and have representation. Because afterall "There's no taxation without representation!").
(Keep in mind this is still in the discussion stage so all numbers are subject to change, but these were the initial submissions.)
So please give me your thoughts and concerns below!
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I fully support this proposal.
The only issues I have with delegates is their ability to vote on the eUS forums and there is no limitations to how long a player can be a delegate. I feel the delegate system should only be used for learning purposes. Parties could run players as delegates for a month or 2 then if they would like add them to real congress in-game they wish.
Allowing more delegates with no limitations would allow parties if they wish to further abuse the use of delegates by putting in seasoned past congressmen to gain congress votes on certain issues on the eUS forums.
We could introduce a clause that states
*Anyone who has served more than 4 terms as a eUS Congressman cannot serve as a delegate.
This could alleviate that if it is a concurrent concern of people.
But the point is to get people included, both old and young. Everyone is allowed the same amount of delegates, so it's not necessarily tipping the vote in any one direction.
New players are not the only use for delegate positions, as noted in the three-part statement in the original law that people seem to ignore.
I thought about limiting by terms but the issue with that is a returning player with more than 4 terms wouldn't be able to take part. Could make it where player with 4 more may serve only 1 term when returning and new congressmen or congressmen with less than 4 may serve 2 terms as a delegate.
You are new so you aren't aware of the abuse of power that has taken place on the eUS forums.
You also aren't aware of how many players have jumped parties over time but stayed allied with their old party sort of creating many parties to be the same with different names which helped certain players consolidate power on the forums over time. Again best way to eliminate the abuse of the system is to remove delegates voting power and limiting the amount of terms they may serve.
DMJ I am aware of that part and that is the part I disagree with. I feel delegates should only be allowed for learning purposes with no voting power or it really is just another scheme for parties to gain more votes on the eUS forums.
Furthermore so, I think the non-T5 parties would prefer to have experienced representatives since there would only be 3. So I'm not so sure that I would like that clause added myself, as it seems to put them at a large disadvantage instead of the attempt of including people and trying to build a community that can foster teamwork and cooperation.
In the past non-T5 parties would make deals with T5 parties to run players from non-T5 for congress in the T5 parties congress list.
Again I am all for including more players but many of the non-T5 parties are just old seasoned congressmen/players who could easily get a spot with most of the T5 parties if they wanted.
Allowing more than 1 player from a non-T5 parties will only help certain parties push their agendas.
Again if you remove their voting power there would be no issue with allowing more.
What do you care about what happens in Congress? You and your buddies in the WTP have left Congress again but you still wanna have a say in what happens there?
I am in congress. I/BSP left the eUS forums long ago. I am surprised it took another party this long to follow. Not sure why you are saying I/BSP or WTP left congress because congress is an in-game given power which I still remain much a part of even if I am not doing it the way you or others believe is the "correct way". About time players learn that not everyone wants to be told they have to go to an outside website ran by players that can abuse their power if they wish just to be apart of congress. Some players forget the real game is here and if they don't like to play the actual game that is their issue and should not be pushed on any other player.
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We dont need more meta.. I spent last 16 months trying to kill that meta bs...
Pew. What's that smell?
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Probably that 12 y.o. you fingered earlier?
If the point is to get experience, then a non-voting delegate system would be OK I think. That many appointed delegates not only throws the legitimacy of congress into question, but raises the very real possibility that measures passed by "congress" will be resisted by in-game congress. There would be 30+ delegates under this plan, more than the number of elected congress members on the board at that point.
I think it could be good to consider a "nonvoting observer" or "nonvoting commenter" status for forum congress.
As it stands, technically anyone can reply to a public congress forum thread, but their reply needs to be approved by a mod.
Also, delegates get to see the private section
Let's form an altogether different power structure, One Big Union of all the players. Everyone is a delegate, representing themselves. It is ridiculous to try to emulate real-life parliaments and congresses anyway.
Everything in-game Congress does is rote anyway. There is never any serious debate/discussion over funding the CBO or approving of war strategies/tactics. Pretty much everybody is agreed on tax policy anyway. Meta-Congress and its "laws" are pure role-play. Let's let everybody play.
I like this idea and agree it's kind of ridiculous to emulate real life
What if we kept delegates but took away their voting power. It would solve the issue of "the meta" having toouvh power but also include new players in the legislative procedures and give them a voice to debate.
Read my comments above I addressed all issues I have concerns with and how I believe we can make the delegate system actually be useful instead of a tool of abuse.
Read them you are correct, I agree
Looks great
Since WTP/BSP has decided to -again- walk out of Congress this Law would allow Congress to better judge the will of the people.
Nobody walked out of congres.. The F you talking about? You should quit smoking drugs...
https://www.erepublik.com/en/article/what-is-to-be-done-1-2730906/1/20
According to your Fuhrer, the whole of WTP has left...
Yes FS BSP left long ago and WTP just left the eUS forums a place where the fake congress goes on and voting on things that break erep laws take place like buying accounts to use as "national defense" army bots. 😛
It is true that BSP left a long time ago, yet spend their entire online time complaining about what you and your party consider the 'fake Congress' and what happens there. If it is what you claim then you should not give one f**k what is going on in 'fake Congress'.
As for the 'National Defense Drone Army' please name a country that does not have one? An Army which you supported so long as they didn't sit in a party like your cousins in the WTP is doing with their Drone Army. Don't act like your innocent. A couple of WTP members claim to be running 45/46 personal drones.
I will say this, at least you and the BSP refuse to take part on principle while the WTP is doing solely because Chicken demanded to be banned and now wants to take it back.
So FS saying because others cheat that means eUSA has to lol. I have and never will agree with this type of behavior. This is also 1 of the reasons why our country is taken as a joke. Our country has been run to the ground by players thinking they know what is best for the whole nation.
Every time BSP said something was wrong or wouldn't go as planned we were right yet certain players will never admit they were wrong so they double down and look even more foolish.
The reason why I care what goes on in fake congress forums is because anytime I take an ear off of them certain players in congress use the eUS forums to pass more fake laws to keep themselves in power or use our tax money to buy bots or w/e suites their agenda at the time.
These are issues that concern our whole nation yet only a few decide on.
I am tired of all the back alley scheming that goes on there as well. Maybe if we had more players with integrity we wouldn't be in this current position of civil war issues or being considered clowns by other nations.
Forum doest not equal Congress. Leaving the forum doest means people left congress.. Everyone elected for congress in February still in congress...geezz Franklin.. you really are a special kind of stupid arent you...
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I can support that
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Looks reasonable. o7