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Don't donate to this bank!

The Swiss NationaI (with a big "i" instead of a "l") Bank is the most secured one.

Huh i understand nothing

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financial propoganda.
everyone has already figured out that the confederation bank is your bank cliffy. there is currently 1,600 gold in your bank that you have taken during previous administrations. you could spend some of it on mpp's. i'd like to see an mpp with italy and austria.
spend some of our money cliffy.

the Swiss Nationai Bank is the official bank of eSwitzerland.

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So which bank is Official Swiss bank?

SNB? Switzerland needs just one bank.

Höre ich da etwa wieder mimimimi aus dem Kommentaren?

@Rican: First, I'm not the MoF, therefore is this article not from me. Second, the SCB is in the hand of the new President of the Swiss Confederation and Head of the Federal Department of Finance, ask him if you have questions about SCB money. Third, maybe you should finally stop with your daily/hourly propaganda because that's destructive.

@Ghostbiker: WHICH IS THE OFFICIAL? If we're serious are both banks official (also if F4uc0n last written his destructive propaganda like this: "SCB is a fake bank"). The first bank was Swiss National Bank (SN😎, but Eleriel and F4uc0n has this bank over one year taken away and won't give next democratic elected President of the Swiss Confederation. This both guys decided alone, which President of the Swiss Confederation or Swiss government has access to the Swiss treasury.
Against this dictatorship, the Swiss people created the Swiss Confederation Bank (SC😎, the alternative Swiss treasury. The idea behind that is, that every new President of the Swiss Confederation has the warranty, that he has access to the Swiss treasury and are not dependent or need to be brown-nose to Eleriel or F4uc0n. The SCB secure, that democracy and the free of speech is guaranteed without consequences like "Access denial for undesirable politicans"!

signed cliffy ;o)

The SCB last month contributed nothing to the safety and security of the Swiss people, even though in October the SNB had worked with Walther to purchase an MPP.

Don't donate to this bank!

But the SNB had? I remember you of the lost of many hundred SNB Goldz in November (last month like you said) and nobody know, who taken this whole money away. Therefore I'm happy that the SCB has proven again, that she isn't a part of the SNB corruption which was made last month with tax money.

And regarding October, the SCB paid 50% of the MPP costs. But nobody is forced donate to any bank, but write such propaganda like above confirm how important the SCB is for free of speech. We had already such a scenario, as some Swiss citizens was democratic elected to President of the Swiss Confederation and Eleriel denied access to the SNB because he had personally aversions against this politicians. I understand that some citizens wanted dictatorship, but the most Swiss citizens won't such a system and won't allow that a very small group decide which democratic elected President of the Swiss Confederation is able to use Swiss treasury. Elected is elected and I require, that everybody accept democratic decisions!

One example again, we assume that serban_b were elected as President of the Swiss Confederation. The most know, serban_b is not long in Switzerland and member of a small party (not supported from the both strongest parties). Now the question: "Who warranty him, that he can execute his term with the Swiss treasury? You Penguin4512? 😛P".

ghostbiker, the confederate bank is for the sole purpose of making cliffy rich. period
remember, all expenditures go thru congress. who is the president has little to do with which bank is holding the money. the Swiss Nationai Bank is the official bank of congress, and therefore of the government.
i understand why clifford defends his bank. it's more money for him.

i am not a congressman for any particular president. i am a congressman for the swiss people. they never see a penny from the confederate bank.

What Clifford said about the banks is only half-true:
Eleriel (who created this bank) didn't give its access to the first Shaolin president who was elected here because this russian group stole 235 gold.
He didn't want them to steal 1000 gold more and that's why he kept the bank for the next president we could trust.
That's when Clifford created the SCB.

From this time, the SNB is used when the SNP isn't in power and the SCB when it is.
When Clifford said "The idea behind [the creation of the SCB] is, that every new President of the Swiss Confederation has the warranty, that he has access to the Swiss treasury", it's a lie because the SCB access was never granted to any people which wasn't from the SNP. In fact, he criticize the SNB but he's doing exactly the same.


Another important thing is that the SNB made a first step to cooperation with the SCB by paying 50 gold for a MPP when Walther (SNP) was president.
But when Paul (SFP) was president, the SCB didn't pay anything for the MPP so the SNB had to pay the full 100 gold. That's why we shouldn't trust it anymore.


In fact, there is only one bank you could trust: the Swiss Nationai Bank.

Ouch, it's more complicated as i thought. : /

For me, the choice is clear.

In October, the SCB and the SNB agreed to both pay half of the price. But in November, the SCB didn't contribute, and the SNB paid the entire 100 gold. Clifford claims that there was no discussion about it, but it's pretty obvious that the SCB did this because cesgon was still smarting over his loss.

Oh, and this "corruption" that Clifford keeps going on about? In November, cesgon invented an entire story about a scandal with the SNB. When F4uc0n denied the tale in his article, cesgon's accusations disappeared, only to now return, weeks later.

And as for the SCB not being involved in corruption? Just ask Clifford about the 1000 gold "gift" from Russia.

Cliffor😛

If the 235 gold were invested in a Q5 hospital compagny, where is this state compagny now ? You know that the Shaolin still have it (http://economy.erepublik.com/en/company/meditation-hall/57491). We never had access to it. The SCB even gave gold to it for builind an hospital but we never saw it. In fact, it was corruption: giving state money to private friends.

About the 1000 gold, why would they steal the gold of people who helped them (the SNP) and could still help them to seize power in the future ?
We (SLP and SFP) were against them so they would have stolen the gold of the SNB for sure.

You gave the SCB to Arschmann, Walther and cesgon but they're all from the SNP. But did you gave it to Paul or Jimakos which were both elected as every other president ?
And about Paul, he didn't have a direct access to the SNB but he never asked for it because he knew he could ask for the gold which was on this organization. It's the same for Jimakos_Thess.

Now about the MPP, we asked for the gold but you never gave it. We made a first step, you had to do the same but you didn't.
If Paul sent a mail to the SCB, it's because Walther should have had access to it as it was the previous president but he hadn't. As Paul didn't know who had access to it, he wrote directly to the organization. That's normal.




Ghostbiker:

The more complex. The more fun.
What ? We don't say that ? 😁

Anyway, if you have questions about this situation. You should ask us and make up your mind because you'll never see Clifford or me telling to give money to the opponent's bank (even if I did by paying for the MPP when Walther was president and had access to the SC😎.
I'm nearly certain that you don't even know what we're talking about here because it happened months ago (that's not a critic because most of the people who are active now weren't here at that time).

@Penguin4512: I have not claims that there was no discussion, but that he not asked (no mail, i knowing nothing about that). How can the SCB pay if they was never asked?

Regarding the 1000 Gold, Paul was in the time of settlement responsible of that. But he ignore the payment, so don't accuse the SCB regarding this isse. And all my explanation regarding the responsibility problem were ignored because nobody wanted solve this problem. Instead of that, I read just troll comments.

@F4uc0n: You're absolutally wrong. I said often to you, if we need a hospital, we have one. But currently we don't need one, therefore we don't need put one just for fun. You use this facts, mixing that and write this above ridiculous accusation without matter.

And your accusation, that Arschmann wanted steal money from the SNB is outrageous! That's still a fantasy product because you wishes the cold war back😁

And your text regarding access to Paul is very interesting. You accuse the SCB, they have not given acces to Paul, but in the same time you did the same. You (the SN😎 has never given any President of the Swiss Confederation the key. The SCB did that, and this very often. And your description with the words "he never asked", naturally ;> We know very good, you won't give the key because you trust nobody, even your own friends ;>

strange

two Bank have money-gold

butt country is on the one level in the last year
boring and nothing

Clifford, according to you, the 1000 gold is all Paul's fault because you took out a loan and then expected him to pay it back. That's ridiculous!

And now you say that Paul never asked for aid from the SCB: "(no mail, i knowing nothing about that)"

But earlier you said that, "He written only a mail to the SCB."

Which one is it?