[CP] Official statement - my position on the war between Russia and Sweden
Endymionis
Today is a sad day, sad for us, but sadder still for our Swedish brothers.
A few hours ago Bohus was conquered by Russia, not long after Scania had been conquered by Ireland. Sweden is now engaged in a conflict on two fronts, just waiting for the next attack.
There was a time - during the Norwegian-Swedish War - that a lot of voices claimed that since Norway is EDEN and Sweden is ONE we would have to be enemies. I did not believe that then, and I do not believe that now.
Therefore it is with a sober tone that I state my position this conflict. The attack from Russia was done from our regions with my consent. This was by no means an easy decision to make, but I stand by it none the less.
I do not feel the need to explain or defend my position. I do however wish I had more time. to detail the events leading up to the attack, including the Swedish NE vote, but I will leave this for another day.
I know that many of you share our dream of a peaceful, stable and united Nordic...and today that dream has become more distant, more faint, but I have not lost hope yet.
For my fellow Norwegians I would say that this does not affect our ability to wipe Norwegian regions in time for Congress elections, for the Swedes, know that I hold no ill feeling towards you.
For the rest of you, thank you for reading.
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Hahaha....
Thx for the backstabb...🙂
have strength with all the trolling this will cause! Cheers!
Nice backstab! "but I have not lost hope yet." What makes you think that we should still want that when you backstab us? Not like you should have given up your hope as you're the one backstabbing. Just saying.
And oh, I am not speaking for Sweden, I am speaking for myself.
It's a good thing you haven't lost all hope yet as this is obviously a move in the right direction!
Well i think most of the swedes left, will hate you for this, and they feel kinda screwed over by you. When Russia attacked you without any notice, you wanted Swedish help to defend your country. I would like to hear more about your reasoning why you let Russia attack us.
I think with this statement and the choice you made you have made sure that the relationship with our nations are if not utterly destroyed, then seriously injured.
It's not our abilities that show what we truly are, it is our choices.
Haha, first Finlad, now you. One of the Swedish political parties that hold this swe-scandinavian relationship high must feel stupid right now.
The attack on Bohus was pre-planned, as was the Irish bribery of our congressmen that made up the "excuse" to get leverage and your consent to bypass the 3 day old treaty. I had expected it to last a week or so. Even I'm surprised by their eagerness to get aluminium. Well played by TEDEN, I must say. Not chivalrous perhaps, but there's nothing to be gained from that these days anyway.
Sweden will be wiped in 3-4 days. I don't think that there are enough players to make a Scandinavian peace possible, it simply takes too much time and it doesn't make the game any more fun.
This game is designed around the concept of mammoth alliances, focusing on countries with large amounts of two clickers. It's become all about the war module and nothing else. This clearly doesn't inspire Scandinavians enough to continue playing the game and thus, our countries will continue to be harassed by whichever alliance we decide not to belong to.
You should be damn grateful that I'm not the current President of Sweden - there is one distinct difference between my Government and the governments that have been in charge after I left office:
I used diplomacy and warfare - and I wasn't afraid to attack to show my standpoint. The recent governments has been afraid to mess things up with our Nordic neighbors and warfare was completely left aside and they focused mainly on diplomacy.
And look what happened. Little Norway got the upper hand and betrayed Sweden 😉
"I know that many of you share our dream of a peaceful, stable and united Nordic...and today that dream has become more distant, more faint, but I have not lost hope yet."
/facepalm on that - at least stand up to what you did and don't try to cover it up.
"I know that many of you share our dream of a peaceful, stable and united Nordic...and today that dream has become more distant, more faint, but I have not lost hope yet."
And for that you will have to thank yourself. Some may argue that the Swedish NE-vote was reason enough to invade Sweden but that is just silly. It was made by a troll and it was clear quite early that it would fail.
However the consent on the Russian attack wasn't made by a troll but by a President. By you and therefor the responsibility lies with you. You had the option to stand up and say no but instead you cave in to the Russians who have already proved their trigger happy behavior when they invaded you, their own ally, some days ago. A war even Sweden sent troops to help defend Norway.
This is a sad day.
Finland and Norway - Russia's little puppets?
I'm sorry.
It is truly sad to see such a lame act by teden.
We all knew the reason russia took norweigan in the beginning. But to attack with a reason like this is pathetic. Its a shame to see how kids"youngppl" dont keep their words. Unexperienced players with wrong position.
I'm still open for Nordic cooperation however... If you just come to your senses and stop running Russia's errands!
I'm not angry, I'm dissapointed.
I guess you were right Endymionis. I shouldn't have thanked you for not leaving eSweden out from the agreement you and eRussia made, it was clearly just there to make you eNorway look like the good guy.
Well, now we can finally move on. I don't see any reason for further cooperation with either eNorway or eFinland because of their history of betraying us when it hurts the most.
You hold no ill feeling toward us by allowing russia boarders to attack? Retarded comment, contradicting yourself. If anyone is to cling to any grudge its us. Russia walks all over you like they always do and we have to suffer for it. Despite frequent support from us you tuck away your balls the moment russia knocks on your door and forget all what our old rusty relationship has ever stood for.
Shame on you, Norway. I will never respect you guys again.
sweden backstabbed us first, when they helped serbians steal our country some months back, enough said
@Delirium90 yes and we have been helping u evar since but now ur screw again c:
"I know that many of you share our dream of a peaceful, stable and united Nordic...and today that dream has become more distant, more faint, but I have not lost hope yet."
Yeah, that's the right way to go, you give me more hope that we'll unite...
Delirium90; So two wrongs make one right? And you can't blame Sweden as a whole for the serb thing.
There's just one small part left and my prophesy will be true. I wrote this the day I left office - I'm starting to think that I am a psychic. I've seen some comment from the ruling party in Sweden and I am happily surprised over their reactions - I doubt that the last part I mentioned will happen but I was darn close:
The entire article can be read here (the following text is just an extract): http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-president-telefonartikel-1929886/1/20
"Jag vet redan nu hur framtiden se ut: Vissa säger att något stort är på gång och löften kastas kors och tvärs. Om och när anti-FBS rörelsen (=oppositionen) får makten (presidentsplatsen) så kommer följande hända:
Ingenting. Påstår man annat så vet man inte vad man talar om eller så lever man i en fantasibubbla där man tror att diplomati är lösningen till alla problem. Visst kan man prata men sanningen är att Finland, Norge och Danmark tillhör en fiendeallians som vill oss illa - det MÅSTE man ha i åtanke. Danmark kan hävda att de är neutrala men vi vet alla vilken sida de tillhör.
Vad kommer hända när man misslyckas komma överens med våra grannar - och jag säger det igen, som är våra fiender då de är med i Eden?
Man skyller på den tidigare Regeringen och allt blir som vanligt. Man har lovat något man inte kan utföra och väljer istället att skylla ifrån sig för att tona ned underlaget. Hur det här än slutar och vad som än nu görs i framtiden så kommer det alltid finnas en syndabock. Vill därför be er att inte få upp förhoppningarna allt för mycket, ni lär bara bli besvikna."
Backstab? This was to the chest and I stand by it.
@ Jim Parsons:
I can not believe you have the audacity to even comment. What you did truly was a backstab and a dirty one at that. Your politics ruined both our nations. You left Sweden in a wake of disaster and then ran away to Serbia.
But after this, how long did it take for us for forgive you? How long did it take for Finland to sign a peace agreement with you? This is why I said I hold no ill feelings against you, this is not because of some grudge.
It was a hard decision to make and I have made my choice. I spend 14 hours in negotiations with Russia for this decision to lie in my hands, to keep the peace. That is not something I would waste without careful consideration.
Still you are filled with hate.Still you would have us stand between you and Russia when you provoke them.
No matter what happened we never gave up on the hope that we again would be brothers, yet you so haste-fully do. It is also up to you how much this will damage our relationship.
I believe you when you say you hate me, but do not blame my fellow Norwegians.
Parssons,var det ikke du og din regjering som hjalp Serbians å ta over norge noen måneder tilbake..?
så du har hvertfall ingen grunn til å føle deg betrayed.
ingame, så har jeg litt imot svenskene,men jeg vet jo såklart at ikke alle Esvenske er de samme, vet om mange kule og hyggelige svensker her jeg, men skal ikke snakke så mye om det nå, anyway, Jim Parssons og hans regjering ,ruined Enorway for months, fordi de hjalp Serbiske PTO'ers med å ta over Enorge. so Jim Parssons, please stop crying...
Yeah right.
yeah
Norway is not to blame for this Sweden This is a problem created by Sweden, even if it was a rouge congress member who did this.
You NEed Russia, and gave them a golden ticket. We tried what we could, but you must not forget that we are in different alliances. When we have to choose we must choose our alliance over you, even if its hard to do.
We will always try to do the right ting, and we don't back stab.
So Sweden, don't blame Norway for this. Blame yourself and Russia.
I'm not angry, nor disappointed. This is comedy to me - maybe I was ahead of my time but now you've messed things up all by yourselves.
I attacked two regions during the congress elections - and I'm glad I did. I don't like Norway for one reason: You're a part of the enemy alliance.
I didn't leave my country burning, ONE as an alliance was burning but things got extra heated because a new party was found and that they wanted to be more PRO-Nordic, something they will reconsider now. They didn't agree with my foreign policy but an enemy is an enemy, regardless.
Since late december the Swedish government have been trying to sort thing out with it's neighbors and when Norway was attacked by its ally, Russia, Sweden deployed troops to fight for Norway.
And how did you repay this? You allowed Russia to attack us. And that is the funny part. I haven't been a part of the Swedish community since I left after the impeachment and I did that because Sweden changes - we changed our ways and all our time went towards diplomacy which ultimately lead to a weaker military - because they aren't being stimulated enough and that our "brothers" betrayed us. Win/win became lose/lose.
As I said, I don't give a shit - I'm just glad I did what I did. This showed your true face and weakens your argument that "you betrayed us, bla bla bla". You demanded change from Sweden, which was something you got when the entire political map was changed and Norway became Sweden's new best friend. And things seemed to go smoothly and then: BAM!
The funny part is how you say that it's no too late - even though you were the one who created this mess. Sweden and Norway can't be friends/allies/bros - either we betray you or you betray us. It's all about the timing - I saw an opportunity and I took it, and you faced a similar dilemma and you went the exact same way I did. I can't really understand your reasoning - you ask for one thing and then do the opposite.
sux...
I was anti-Norway the same day I stepped into office. I was enti-Norway the day I joined HKV when konkelbear was president and I wasn't afraid to show that. Norway knew where I stood and I attacked you at least twice before the day of the elections.
I didn't deceive you nor did I ask for your help and I sure as hell didn't act as your friend. My intentions were clear, and that is the big difference. I'm proud for what I did and I would do it again, without hesitation, I was at least honest about my intentions, which is something you failed to do.
1814 - 1905.
*I don't like Norway for one reason: You're a part of the enemy alliance.*
so thats why you backstabbed us and helped your 'friends' Serbia take over Norway, cry all you want Parssons, you are just trying to cover up your own mistakes, you ruined Enorway and also made it look like Esweden is full of backstabbers, even tho i know that it is not, but i atleast know for sure Jim Parssons is the Enemy....
cry to someone who gives a damn 🙂
Delirium, you just confirmed it, thanks. Now I know you're blind as a bat. As I sai😛 YES I AM eNORWAYS ENEMY (it it easier to understand when I write with capital letters??). Yes, I helped my ally, Serbia, against my enemy, Norway.
AND YES: I DID RUIN NORWAY, AND I WOULD DO IT AGAIN IF I COULD! For me, that was the highlight of my career!
Next time, try to read the entire text before commenting, this way you won't make an ass of yourself when you repeat what I said and then claim I said the opposite.
wow... you still haven't learned anything, parsons? you should know by now that lying doesn't get you anywhere.... get over yourself... *sigh*
SimconDay 1,581, 15:31
4m ago
1814 - 1905.
How low can you go... Do you think that will make us angry, child.
Parssons, i read everything before commenting...so...point?
anyway, i still like sweden in the real world : P
SVENSKE HANDEL FOR ALLE PENGA!! : D
Tommy: Please show me the parts where I am lying.
Was I ever eNorways friend? No. Go back and read the logs during our meetings and you'll see a pattern.
Did I tell you I was your (eNorway, not you in person) friend? No. I was willing to give diplomacy a shot but that didn't work out for me.
Did I help the Serbs by attacking two regions? Yes I did.
Did I regret doing that? No I didn't
Would I do it again if I had the chance? Yes I would.
I'm being as honest as I can be - I am not ashamed of the more destructive sides I tend to show when ever I think it is a good time. I'm not interested in becoming everyones friend, I play to have fun and I will do what ever I can to enjoy this game to the max - they day I stop having fun is the day I will stop log on.
Did I help the Serbs by attacking two regions? Yes I did.
Did I regret doing that? No I didn't
Would I do it again if I had the chance? Yes I would.
PTO is lame, and by most players looked on as a game exploit, Its ok that you support that kind of game play, but it is clear that the rest of the swedes is more honourable than you
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Jim Parsons, as you know how this alliance thingy works you ofc also know that Norway is not the one to blame for your Russian war. Trying to troll it and to fool young players is lame, You play dirty, and act careless. Try not to drag us all down to your level.
It a sad day for Scandinavia...
Fredrikz: Norway and Russia signed a treaty where it said that Russia weren't allowed to attack Sweden without consent from the President.
Endy wrote that he gave them permission to attack Sweden.. "also know that Norway is not the one to blame for your Russian war." - If not Norway, who is to blame?
And yes, you can point back and say that you did it because I helped out a bunch of PTO guys but that kind of excused are getting old. We can all point back in time, and if you look at the Turkey/Bulgarian problem you can clearly see that we don't have to point to ingame events - IRL works fine too!
This is getting old. Just repeat after me: Norway and Sweden can't be friends.
Lets at least be honest about that. I feel sorry (I really do) for the Swedish government for all the time they spent on this, and you showed your gratitude the same way I did. By doing the extreme. Don't point fingers at me and use that as an excuse. I left Sweden and politics a long time ago - and as you sai😛 The Swedish citizens didn't agree with the things I did, even though they reelected me after the PTO.
So why are you punishing them for something I did? The ball was on your court and you did what you though was best for Norway. But don't try to make is more appealing by throwing old disputes around, it used to work but not now - you attack me for destroying your country even though you just did the same to mine. It's fine by me - do what ever you want - just say the magic words I wrote a couple of line ago.
Parsons is dropkicking Norwegians to left and right. Will there be a single one still standing when he's done? I think not.
Nah, Alex. Parsons is just a pathetic twat. He thinks bullying is the way to go, just as Russia is doing with Norway and Sweden. I have no respect for his type, never did. Maybe it is an act, like Stekaren. Internet is a fine place to play out some roles without getting to personal.
Here is my take on the Russian invasion:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/1990097/1/20
Hit by Parsons great wall of text again, it hurts😛
I still think what Parsons did was wrong and we swedes paid for it and made amends, but with this act you norwegians have ended all hope of any peaceful relations in the future.
Norwegian MoFA apologies:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-mofa-my-apologies-swedes--1990125/1/20
Fredrikz, why insult me like that? I didn't say that you should be angry or sad, but that it's once more a sad day for Sweden. Keep your thoughts and hard feeling to yourself, we know what you are, Norwegian...
Impeach Churchill!
As outraged as I could be, it's more disappointing than anything.
Jim Parson sucks, and is hated by the majority of the Swedish community. And much of what he says is just bullshit, but he is right about one thing, you backstabbed us. These past months, Sweden has been working incredibly hard to repay you for what a bad fucking president did. Even a new party was created for a few months ago, with a goal to rebuild our relations again with our Scandinavian (ex) brothers. And today it is the biggest party in Sweden.
But honestly, you threw everything into the garbage. You do not deserve the Swedish people's trust. And probably, the relations between Sweden and Norway will never be all right again.
Regards,
Dante N