The Wisdom Of Krapis
George Barker
Here's Krapis in his most recent deluge of sophistry:
I am sure there will always be a few who utterly refuse to see the wisdom in the path we have now been treading for four months; a path on which I intend to keep us. I am making no bones about this: working with Asteria has been fun, successful, illuminating, and prosperous. For the foreseeable future, we should stand at the ready to fight on the side of Serbia, Romania, Italy, Bulgaria, Iran, Peru, and Portugal. [emphasis added]
The key is the bolded parts.
I'm going to do something Krapis never does: ask you what you think.
Do you feel "prosperous"? What is the form of this "prosperity?" We have max bonuses -- which we've had plenty of times in the past. Of course Krapis, who has been playing for six months, knows nothing of that. So to him, this is "prosperity."
"Illuminating"? What does that even mean? Do YOU, the citizen reading this, feel "illuminated" in any positive way by our subservience to Asteria? Maybe Krapis, as a noob, and serving his first terms, feels somehow "illuminated" looking on as other countries wield their power, but I doubt even that. He needed to throw some positive adjectives into his article to fluff our current status as an Asterian vassal, and "illuminating" came up on the random adjective generator.
"Successful." Where is the "success" in following behind Asteria and picking up their crumbs? Almost any country that wants to abandon scruple and bend over for them can get the same deal. There is no "success" without challenge, and we have no challenges at all. Sucking up to Serbia and Romania is laziness and cowardice, not success.
And finally, we have "fun." Are YOU having "fun?" Maybe Krapis, sometimes allowed to sit at the kiddie table and follow the orders of his Asterian betters, is having fun, feeling like some kind of brilliant statesman, but really this isn't about Krapis and his "fun" -- or it shouldn't be. He's supposed to serve US, not himself. For most of us, the players, it's just a bunch of mindless farming. The wars we fight are meaningless and unchallenging, and the damage we do is on behalf of the empires of others. We're an afterthought fighting meaningless wars. Krapis doesn't have a full grasp of what "fun" in this game can be -- how can he, after his extremely limited experience? Allow me to attempt to educate him, although, since one can tell from the condescending tone of his articles, Krapis knows everything and doesn't need education -- it's the rest of us who just can't appreciate the depth of his genius.
For many of us, Krapis, "fun" is fighting battles that mean something. Fun is taking risks and enjoying the benefits when the risks pay off, and figuring out how to overcome the challenges that come when the risks fail. Fun comes from standing with people who have stood with you in the past, even when -- especially when -- they are struggling, not from bending over and spreading wide for whoever has the biggest ... army ... that comes along. Fun comes from toughing out the hard times, which makes the good times that much more enjoyable, knowing they were earned, not granted as a reward for sycophancy. Fun comes from knowing you are regarded with respect, not sneered at as weak, foolish, and vacillating -- as everyone in this game, including our "allies" in Asteria, do (notice Krapis' term "for the foreseeable future" -- he, like everyone else, knows the next flip-flop is always blowing in the wind. Think other countries don't see that too? With "allies" like us....). It isn't that your wisdom is too vast for us to comprehend, or that we are simply anti-Serbian -- it's that we value loyalty and friendship, having some kind of honor -- even in this game it should count for something -- and above all, we choose challenges over sycophancy. You don't -- in fact, your articles demonstrate that you don't even understand the concepts. It's all about "wisdom" (and sometimes "prudence") -- and "wisdom" to you is knuckling under to whatever comes along. Groot, Asteria -- it doesn't matter. Somebody shows strength, and you're on your knees.
Now, I think I've demonstrated that the four "benefits" of being a lackey state are benefits to Krapis -- his own words show this. But are they benefits TO YOU?
Let's get back to the idea of "fun." Krapis is having fun imagining himself as some kind of erep savant, doing things other people couldn't and many people (who've played this game far longer than he has) can't even understand. Read just about any of his recent articles, and beyond the unctuous condescension, that is what shines through. I believe fun takes different forms to different people -- some enjoy farming, some like the economic model, some like collecting e-medals, and some, like Krapis, are perfectly content to be a lackey, as long as he gets to think of himself as the lackey at the top of the pile. I'm not -- unlike Krapis -- going to presume to know what fun is -- for you. But I'm pretty confident for most people fun ISN'T mindlessly following behind as powerful countries crush weak countries and then smugly congratulating ourselves for it, while clicking on the work/train/fight buttons, and waiting for tomorrow to do the same thing again. Fun ISN'T being part of a country with its finger (and something else) always in the air looking for the next bully to come along. I've been a part of eUS when it was wiped and had more "fun" than this mindless farming while Krapis sucks up to Asteria and churns out article after article congratulating us for having him, and his "wisdom" to guide us.
Here's my own idea of "fun." Fun comes from standing for something. Fun comes from fighting in battles where the outcome is in doubt -- where you might even be the underdog: a thought that, I'm sure, makes Krapis, who only wants to hide behind whoever has power, soil his panties. But unlike Krapis, I've been around this game long enough to remember a time when we had such battles, when a win or a loss had serious consequences, when people actually had something to care about besides screwing up which occupier controlled which of our regions. When people from countries who liked and respected us IRL AND in this game were our allies and actual friends. A lot of you who have taken the time to read this far do, too.
I'm going to conclude this part with a thought experiment: for many years, we had people from Croatia, Albania, and Turkey here as citizens. They helped us, participated in our politics in a positive way, and made the game more fun with their shouts and interactions. Can you imagine the same outcome if we granted citizenship to a bunch of Serbians? Is that what you want? It's what Krapis thinks would be a good idea. A simple rule ought to be if we wouldn't feel comfortable granting a country's citizens citizenship here, that country isn't a proper fit as an ally. Do business with them when necessary, but never fool ourselves into thinking they are allies. Of course, this rule is too simple for Krapis and his subtle genius.
It's becoming obvious Krapis, who won a bare plurality last time, plans on running again -- after all, no one has his sharp grasp on affairs, so who else is there? My suggestion for those of you who think as I do is to get a good candidate ready and push your political party to endorse them -- endorse anyone but Krapis. Longtime stalwarts of our community are quitting, a mentally unstable jerk is creating havoc and Krapis and the people who pull Krapis' strings are too weak to control him, and we are the lowest of the low as laughingstocks in this game. I, for one, have had enough of Krapis' idea of "fun" -- and far more than enough of his condescending articles telling us how lucky we are to have him and his "wisdom" to guide us.
Vote him out. Get rid of him. Stop letting him have fun playing the wise, all-knowing bigshot at your expense. Send a message to the small group of people who hang out on Discord and have reduced our country to a chaotic laughingstock that you've had enough and what you've had enough of ISN'T "fun."
Comments
the article can be finished after this sentence.
"Do you feel "prosperous"? What is the form of this "prosperity?" We have max bonuses -- which we've had plenty of times in the past."
we don't really have much of a choice. either this or wipe. think about it 😉
You clearly didn't read, or understand, the rest of the article. Read it, then think about it. 😉
Well said George!
The argument itself is ofc legitimate, "fun" can be had either way really...it is as you say a matter of taste and there are valid points to go both ways. For most of my elife I had my fair share of fun playing forlorn hope/underdog styles. Now, I find this direction to be refreshing and challenging both in the military and political aspect.
What does the eUS wants? well Krapis brought this issue in a very straight forward manner before Congress and imo Congress gave him a bright green light, he's not alone in this and you're making it far too personal.
A lot of ad hom criticism in this article which I believe doesn't do Krapis Justice, but even more important, interferes with what is otherwise a very important discussion which I'll be glad to see play out.
In fact, Krapis has not brought this to the public in a "straight forward manner." There are clearly all sorts of things he has left out, and his articles demonstrate he doesn't even understand.
While I'm at it, please look up what "ad hominem" means. I'll give you a short lesson now: not all insults are "ad hominem."
By the way, tell me what the "challenges" you've overcome are?
hail George, the critic of false, artificial joy
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umber bear was here,
and there when there was no fun
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"There is no "success" without challenge, and we have no challenges at all."
"For most of us, the players, it's just a bunch of mindless farming. The wars we fight are meaningless and unchallenging,"
Agreed with above.The war against Brazil was not our finest hour.
I do think there is a large part of the eUS community which approves of this course though, at least for the moment. It is hardly a case of Krapis dictating this to an unwilling congress and country.
I think there is a large part of the community that goes along with anything, partly out of apathy. Whether or not they approve of it is a more complicated issue.
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I can speak directly to this "fun" thing.
Think back 6 months. Was it fun when CODE had their boot on Canada's neck? Was it funny when Groot mocked Canada and lied when saying the Canadian's enjoy TWs with CODE? Was America prosperous when Canada's bonus regions were occupied? Were you entertained by Canada's lack of Congress? Yes, the great and powerful United States of America had a good laugh at Canada's expense.
Let's talk about then. CODE moved into Canada because our friends let determination build in the regions they occupied. BTW, they were invited guests for negotiated TWs. At first CODE had a certain amount of decorum and we communicated. They stayed off our bonus regions and allowed Congress. Since this game is mostly a crappy Farmville we tolerated the occupation. As time wore on the communication slowed and finally CODE ignored us completely. At this point I contacted PotUS Groot. (So you don't have to go look, I'm Canadian MoFA.) At first he was friendly. In diplomacy friendly and a couple bucks will get you a cappuccino. I won't recount the whole story but in essence Groot gave Canada the finger and lied to America about it.
Let's talk about now. You are currently being used by Asteria. Per agreement with Tyler's administration, the U.S. is to host TWs with Asteria friendly countries who liberated Canada and kicked CODE out of North America. The purpose is to pay reparation for their expenses. The occupation is to last 6 months. You also agreed to a NAP with Canada. The NAP was insisted on by Asteria, Canada was opposed as we wanted a simple gentleman's handshake plan like we had previously. Canada was at the big boys table and helped in the negotiations. Asteria asked what Canada wanted out of the deal. We made sure that in no way would the occupation of the U.S. be punitive. Every consideration was to be made toward the needs of the Americans and desires of your government. All things considered, IMO, you've been treated much better than Canada was.
Bottom line from Canadian POV. We want this to be over too. It remains to be seen how relations shake out when Asteria leaves. Leaders on both sides have been working on projects together. One biggie is moving a chunk of money out of your Treasury to an org where you can get to it. Using mutual concessions you're "paying" us a ton more cc than we're paying you. The bulk of cc is being deposited back with you. Canada is making a little but we're pleased that you trust Canada to handle your money. Our goal is to prove that the U.S. and Canada can be good neighbors regardless of alliances. If you prefer CODE good for you.
If you read all that, thanks. I hope that clears the air but I'm realistic enough to know there will be people who want to kick my teeth in. To those, let me assure you of one thing. Canada is pro Asteria. We are not their lapdog nor are we anyone's puppet. That goes for the United States as well, so forget the notion you can push us around. We will associate with whoever we see fit. So go ahead, tell me how stupid I am. I'm obviously a deceived idiot. I'm paid off, drank the koolaid...
Anyhoo, thanks America!
Bear with it a bit longer, it's almost over.
We know what it's like. 😉
As always, if you have concerns please PM.
Serious, we intend to hold Asteria's feet to the fire.
Canada insists that you are treated with dignity and respect.
Thedillpickl
Canada Minister of Foreign Affairs
Blah blah blah..
Exactly...
That's what I hear when you blather on.
Honestly, I preferred us wiped out from the map than the agreements with Serbia.
I respect you and your defend your right to this opinion. However I completely cannot agree with the idea that there is a set of nations in a game that -under no circumstances- can we ally ourselves with. That is hamstringing ourselves from the outset.
What is it about Serbia?
What is ONLY true about eSerbia that is not true about any other eNation?
This is the valuable missing piece in the argument against our current Foreign Policy.
They like food?
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Krapis continues with his "it's about Serbia" BS to deflect away from the fact that it's about loyalty, genuine teamwork, and commitment. \
I do not disagree with you about *the importance of loyalty, teamwork, and commitment.*
What I disagree with you about is *which group of nations with which we should work to establish these.*
I also disagree with you that our 2021 Foreign Policy should be governed by our 2015 (or pick a number) Foreign Policy.
Describing something that is brown and stinky as sh*t isn't an insult.
Krapis also continues misrepresenting motives as being about "2015." Really, to call Krapis unctuous is understating what a slick scumbag he is.
Ah, more insults.
He really does not know eUSA history does he? 😃
I was hoping by this point in the comments someone would have pointed out that, at least since the resource wars event which set our current bonus structure into place, eUSA has NEVER had full bonuses until now. Opening the article with a false narrative got my attention, but not in a good way.
Also, as has been pointed out above, a lot of this anger is directed at me over a foreign policy and direction I (gladly) inherited from the prior administration. If the author prefers that we violate the terms of our NAP and call that "scrupulous", then I don't know how to come to any kind of agreement at all. Would it be "fun" do so so? Hell yes. It would be drama central! I've chosen the path that seems wisest to me, my administration, and four congresses.
I also vehemently disagree that a change in the course of foreign affairs is somehow UNscrupulous. The idea that we cannot abandon friendly relations with one nation in favor of another - for defensible reasons - is to suggest submission to the same kind of tyranny the author accuses us of being under now. Lick CODE's boot simply because we fought together in past wars? In a video game? Please. Who needs a foreign policy when it's being set by the past?
Nostalgia makes for horrible Foreign Policy.
The proof will be in the pudding. If Asteria pulls the carpet out from under us after we have acted in good faith according to the agreement which eUSA signed in MAY by the most decorated CP in eUSA history (7 terms!) then he, his administration, I, my administration, and each of the past four congresses will all be proven wrong. Even so, in such case it will be Asteria lacking scruples, not eUSA. We signed an agreement in good faith. Every CP, Cabinet Member, and Congress member elected during its 6-month term are subject to its parameters.
The author makes this a piece focused on me. He laces his arguments with insults about my demeanor, experience, and selfishness. He greatly harms his argument in doing so. This has been a communal effort which began more than four months ago and of which we are stewards until circumstances open up wider possibilities.
This article is an effort to oppose eUSA's developing relationship with Asteria. The substance of the article is that "we have never been allied with those countries before but we have been allied with different countries in the past".
The author is noted for his position.
More of your unctuous condescension. These aren't "insults" -- they are accurate descriptions of what you are. They only seem like insults because what you are isn't very pleasant. Being selfish, and having it laid bare, isn't pleasant. Being ignorant but presumptuous isn't pleasant. I could go on -- and as long as you continue misrepresenting my motives and being a condescending, unctuous ass, I will.
George, I haven't made any claims about your motive.
You referred to my article as a "deluge of sophistry" which is likely an insult.
You implied that I don't listen to other people - an accusation Congress can attest as false. I think your implication is probably an insult.
You imply I use an adjective generator to write my article. That's insulting.
You have accused me of "unscrupulous" leadership. That's an insult.
You have me sitting at the "kiddie table", an insulting jab.
I'm "condescending", pompous, and a fake genius. Pretty insulting.
And that's just the first half of your article.
I've repeatedly invited substantive debate on the topic of pro-Asterian foreign policy.
You've offere😛
1. they weren't our friends in the past
2. they will certainly never respect us moving forward
Kevin Sheridan accused you of ad hominem. He was close enough. Ironically your defense against his accusation was to tacitly admit to your insults which, in response to my comment you are now denying. Where Kevin Sheridan is correct is in noticing that 95% of this article is about what an idiot I am and the other 5% is about how much you think we should go back to our old Foreign Policy. Heck, you even titled your article in my name.
As I did with Sheridan, I suggest you educate yourself on what an ad hominem is. That bit of pedantry aside, you must be stupid if you don't know the difference between wry hyperbole and a serious accusation. Do you really think I believe you use an adjective generator? Are you that incredibly dense? Finally, and I continue, and will continue, to make this point: it isn't an "insult" if it's true. You are weak and cowardly and sycophantic. You continue to misrepresent the motives ("nostalgia," "anti-Serbian", and so on) of people who disagree with the course of action you now -- finally -- admit you are taking, even after they've explained you're wrong, and what their actual motives are. You haven't been upfront with people about your own motives and intentions. Your own article, and the paragraph I quoted above show you are selfish. So the things that make you cry your baby crocodile tears are simply true, not insults. Unlike you, I'm not a simpering hypocrite, so I say what I want, how I want. And I'm going to continue to do it, over and over and over, until you stop being a weak, simpering, lying hypocrite, or fade from the scene.
Great article!! I like having fun in my own way. Even tho this is a political browser game and on our part, we do thr roll playing. In the end, its all a game to me and i do my best not to take shit so seriously. The gaming itself it is.
THIS is how to disagree!
Bravo Josh Whitehead!
We should have remained neutral and sold our damage -less Groots- to the highest bidder.
Mercenaries R us...
Better yet, why don’t you run for president and show us how it’s done?
LMAO, YES!
It's funny that you think us leaving Code started with Tyler haha
Tyler signed the NAP. The NAP is a binding document on our foreign policy. I am trying to make the most of it by abiding to both it's letter and it's spirit.
I don't know if you are speaking to the author or to me, as I am not aware that the George Barker is laying anything on Tyler. If he is, I've missed it. So I'll assume you are talking to me here.
I don't think our leaving CODE started with Tyler. I would trace it back to the Boycott as the most pivotal moment. It's difficult to know what was going on during many of the terms preceding Tyler's due to an absence of media. But I've heard that relations were going downhill.
But in terms of our CURRENT trajectory, there is no more important chess piece than our NAP.
My phone keyboard gets apostrophe-happy with the word "it's". That pisses me off.
Yeah. Was talking to George🙂
Ok, can't keep my mouth shut.
I'm speaking as private citizen pickle (as ca fa I'm supposed to use decorum).
Look you little pip squeak, U.S. leaving CODE started on YOUR WATCH. You were so smug, nothing you could do, eh? Canada likes CODE stamping around our resource garden, shutting out our Congress. Telling people I'm the liar?! Laughing in my face, telling me there's nothing we can do?
Yep, if y'all wanna know who got the shit ball rollin' talk to Groot. Have him explain how he snubbed Canada one time too many.
If anything, Tyler and now Krapis have saved your asses through D-I-P-L-O-M-A-C-Y. Groot wouldn't know diplomacy if it bit him on the ass.
Well, at least I feel better getting that off my chest.
You need a tissue?
like WildOwl was saving the USA with diplomacy? We all know how that diplomacy ended. Also we all know nobody will ever trust the USA again not even their new Asterian "allies" or it is better to say "colonizers" for more accuracy.
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