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Older vs younger players

Day 1,198, 01:07 • Published in South Africa

• by Ines Schumacher

Now that the Congress hype is over and we're gearing up for the Presidential elections, I'd like to take this opportunity to clear up this whole thing about older players vs younger players that people have been bringing up in articles.

I'd like to state categorically that none of us "old" players have returned to take over eSouth Africa and suppress newbies. Except Mr Kitty. He's nefarious.

^ Pretty nefarious if you ask me!

I find it ironic that the same players who raise the issue about older players returning as being some kind of bad thing are the exact same ones who I would consider old players, too. Anyone who was around when I was still around is old. End of story. The returning peeps such as Steven Bosch, Gabriel Borien (now playing under a name that sounds like a sound a bird makes), Oceanus, Zagarius and Co may be oldER, but I think it's time for the critics to take a look in the mirror. Oprah Winfrey, Champinator and Sam Gibz have all voiced concern about how many old players are returning - I've known you guys for a long time. What makes you any different from me?

I recently left the game because my laptop was stolen, but before that I left the game of my own free will because I was sick and tired of the antagonism some people showed me and people like me. The word elitist was created by people who wanted our country PTOed and wiped off the map. Why are we using it against each other now? I returned last month because I was asked for help in strengthening eSouth African society - and so were many others. We came back because we were told we were needed - not because we all met secretly in our "elitist" headquarters and decided to be party poopers.

I have full respect for the fact that other players may be younger but have been running the country successfully for the time I wasn't here (and even when I was here). I have no intention of taking over and throwing sand in the face of the "babies" to spoil their fun. I'm here to give advice and my vote.

So just chill out and let's all work together to get this country to be the best it can be.

Comments

Ines Schumacher Day 1,198, 01:07

First denied!

NXNW Day 1,198, 01:10

When I read the title I at first thought it was: Older vs Younger Lovers 🙂

Ines Schumacher Day 1,198, 01:11

Rawr!

OKayOK Day 1,198, 01:16

I had to google nefarious

Voted

Alfred Ball Day 1,198, 01:18

stEndEc Day 1,198, 01:35

living in eSA in this module is pointless...

candymanson Day 1,198, 01:35

Glad you're back

Shiloh DeGreat Day 1,198, 01:36

Hah, nice try Ines, but your elitist propaganda won't warp my mind! I know that the government controls the economy and drugs our food! They also put hallucinogens in the ZAR! The PTO was an elaborate plan to create an elitist-run oligarchy! Mark Morcom actually is a boob! Don't close your eyes to the Truth, South Africa!

Taking off the tinfoil hat, I agree. The whole elitism debate just gets tiresome. Sure, eSA has a pretty similar group of people who often go from chair to chair in political offices, but at the same time they get those positions because they earn it. Hell, Champ has been in Congress for 10 terms and ran pretty successfully for CP (he didn't win, but plenty of people still voted for him). And not only do these people deserve it, but there's also not a whole lot of them. With eSA's small population, we really don't have too many to choose from, so often times we are stuck with those boring old vets.

I've put more work into politics this past month or two than I had all of 2010, and already I've seen my efforts being noticed. I'm not being accepted into any major positions, but being recognized is just a start. Plus I've found that I don't know sh*t about half the government, so no matter how much I ring the elitist bell, chances are I couldn't do a better job. That's just me, though.

tl;dr. I really should stop making long replies.

Mav10 DK Day 1,198, 01:50

Same ol' same ol' Heheh

Same story all over sis.

Rico Suave Day 1,198, 01:52

The fact that this article is even called for is sad.

Ines Schumacher Day 1,198, 02:03

@Shiloh: Thanks for that tl;dr comment - you hit the nail on the head.

@Rico: Agreed!

Grimstone Day 1,198, 02:32

Nice to see you writing again Schums.

Sirbeg Day 1,198, 03:37

Ah, you've got that debate too, well it's just nonsense I myself tried for months to get a replacement for myself and none of the "new guys" was willing to take over, but boy do they like to criticize :😁

Mashaka Kulala Day 1,198, 05:38

Ines, your points and positions are valid. But the anti-elitist crowd has its merits, too. Looking at the makeup of cabinet and other appointed positions, you see the older players getting selected again and again, and few new faces (though this hasn't been so much the case since we reclaimed our country from the Huns, things having changed from the ordeal).

A newer player hoping to run the ministry of X or be director of Y has little hope of being chosen for the spot if she's up against someone well-established as capable of running that particular show.

These established citizens get these spots for good reason - we know they're capable and trustworthy, while on the other hand we can't be sure of newer folk because they've never shown what they can do. Again, what I mean to say is you're right, of course, but the 'anti-elitists' do have good cause for complaint.

I think the government official training programs created a month or two ago may be a good way to start resolving the issue, and something to be expanded upon. The task, in short, is to balance the clear fact that proven players are (sensibly) taken to be better candidates, with the fact that newer citizens are short on opportunities to prove themselves and to advance in the civil service.

In any case:
"So just chill out and let's all work together to get this country to be the best it can be." x2

SamGibz Day 1,198, 08:16

Wow, you singled me out incorrectly. I have always said I welcomed the older players returning, I just feared that they would go, "Hey, we are back, I am awesome, do as I say". That is all I said. So get of your high horse and get with the times.

Bobady zoo Day 1,198, 08:17

ELITISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SamGibz Day 1,198, 08:20

Ohh, and people. For the last time, please get this right. I am not anti-elitist, I am pro equality. And to be honest, to look at the bigger picture, everyone is anti-elitist except the elite themselves.

Ines Schumacher Day 1,198, 09:53

@Sam: I wasn't trying to offend you by singling you out. I just highlighted some people who had concerns and you did.

Venetia Carlton Day 1,198, 10:10

I'm the probably one of the youngest citizens ever to be Speaker and this is my only second term as a congresswoman - living, breathing proof that you don't have to be "old" to succeed in eSA.

Oprah Winfrey Day 1,198, 11:20

I never complained...In what context did I ever have an issue with any of the returning players? It bothers me that my name is mentioned that way, Schums 🙁

I love all you guys. And I'm actually quite an old player, myself.

Oprah Winfrey Day 1,198, 11:22

Ah, I'm with Sam. I would prefer if I wasn't referred to as a "critic", and rather as someone who brought a voice to the legitimate concerns of citizens.

My one article on the subject was journalism and analysis, not necessarily personal opinion.

I'd just love it if you amend your article to reflect that 🙂

Seisan Day 1,198, 13:25

"I'm the probably one of the youngest citizens ever to be Speaker and this is my only second term as a congresswoman - living, breathing proof that you don't have to be "old" to succeed in eSA."

Quoted for the truth. We should be welcoming back old players with open arms and work with them, not push them away. Not one of them has given us a reason to mistrust them and, until they do, I will gladly work alongside them.

Jizzie McGuire Day 1,198, 14:00

Who cares if you are young or old? Everyone should be valued for what that they can contribute. Criticism is fine and welcome, but insulting people for being elitist or whatever gets us nowhere and is counter-productive.

I agree with Rico - this article should not even be necessary.