For Mr. President
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by OmuNegru9
I'm not going to start and argue again with people around here. But there are some things that I can't leave with no answer.
Yesterday I've wrote an article in which I've expressed my opinion on how we can help eAustria economy. Some smart guys (I bet they don't have a clue about economy in RL) replyed with some stupid comments but that doesn't matter, I'm used to it since Stoneman was MoF. Also our president replyed :
"From what you're saying it seems to me that eAustria is like a girl who's selling her body for cash every night instead of finding a job."
-> Exactly this is our position, so what? eAustria is exactly this and was this for a long time and until we get a babyboom, this position will not change, so you should start realizing or move on.
Let me tell you something. I live in eAustria for 2 years. I'm not an asian muppet who moved in here to win some congress medals and then move on. I've tried to help this country like others tried to but we couldn't. Wanna know why ? Because every time some smart guy who is MoF or MoE or even president has batter ideas. And guess what, their ideas are stupid. And when they realized that, when they see they can't do anything good they leave silently. Those people don't care about eAustria. And because of those people eAustria is like that.
"I just wonder what are you going to do with all that gold you get from renting our regions, because people are leaving eAustria."
-> Gold is needed for a new MPP and this money we wouldnt get over taxes even we would hold our regions. If you would follow the press, you would know this and you would know why we cannot sign a MPP yet.
The reason you can't get this gold from taxes is because you put your friends as ministers even if they don't have a clue about economy and finances and others. You put him there because he's your friend.
If eAustria had all her right regions then the resources bonuses will be 10% for food companys and 5% for weapons companys. And if we swop regions we don't need with our neighbours then we can get 20% for food companys, 25% for grain companys, 15% for weapons companys and 25% for iron companys. Do you know what that meens ? It meens people will open new companys, new jobs, cheap products, more exports, market will be more active, you will get more money from taxes. Not to mention that when you swop regions you get fights.
Mr. Penegrin : "You miss the most obvious point: we can not defend a rented region. Everybody can start a RW in any region at any time. And there is just no way we can defend a region in a RW. And even if we would the costs would be a lot higher than any benefit we might have... "
Do you think one guy can win a RW ? How about 10 ? If you have an agreement with your neighbour and swop regions do you think they will start a RW ? And even so what's the problem ? You get free fight, no MPP needed.
"Ohhh sorry, I didn't know you, the president of eAustria also left this country ... good luck but I can see you failed"
-> Bitchmode enabled? If you can't handle the facts, you can move along. I left 2 days ago because of fighting issues and help countries who helped us in the past too. And if I fail, I am able to realize and take the consequences, you see fails without realizing your own obvious fail.
No mode enabled. Only "I fight against profiteers". I'm not moving. I'm staying here and try to help this country. I'm not like you. You've seen there's nothing to do in eAustria and move quickly. Why don't you stay here, work for 10-15 ATS, buy food from here ? You moved becaused fighting issues. For you is more important to help other countrys then helping the one you lead ? You are like a captain who left the ship before it sinks. You are the last one who should leave eAustria.
I may failed, but I'm not the president.
That's all I have to say. I'm going to be silent for now. But I hope some people will wake up and start do something against this kind of people, against those who came here just to make a name, reach president and then move on.
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Voted so hard..
I don't think we should exchange regions, a +5% boost isn't as much as we could get for one-way giving a region for rent.
Yes, eAustria is a girl that has to sell her body in order to survive. That's what I did when I was president and what did it get us? 500% higher income, NOT counting the >170g The only point I dont agree with is that Penegrin is a bad minister and that JaFe is a bad pres..
First of all: Staying silent doesn't help. Good discussions without insulting people are great and help build the community. And I think all are grateful for a little life in the Austrian media.
The point about us not being able to defend regulary against RWs is good, because we have very few strong players and the military still doesn't operate because of the not yet made economic changes by the admins. I also believe (like I commented on your last article) that none of our neighbours would be really interested in a region swap.
And finally I think even with all the possible boni you mentioned, the Austrian market would still be too small for an economic boom. More companies won't help at all as the existing ones (whith owners who don't produce just for themselves) already have huge stockpiles and have mostly stopped producing. There are only a few dozen people buying products and the prospects of getting more to join Austria won't improve much with bigger economic boni. Building a reputation for having a nice and caring community would be much better suited for that.
Those are the reasons why I don't think region swaps are helpful or even doable. I'm not against the idea, it just seems unrealistic to me.
"A +5% boost isn't as much as we could get for one-way giving a region for rent. eAustria is a girl that has to sell her body in order to survive. That's what I did when I was president and what did it get us? 500% higher income, NOT counting the >170g That's because you didn't know what to do with our economy. If you knew you wouldn't rent regions just like that. Having more regions, which will give companys bonuses on productivity will help them to sell cheap, to rise the salarys, to offer new jobs, to export and bring money in eAustria and so on. People are looking for countrys were products are cheap, salarys are big. You prefer renting regions for 150-200 gold and remain with only one region, with few people who live in that region, with a market that's stucked because there are no people to buy those products, with salarys that are decreasing. And you get that gold and do what ? If there are no people ?
"The point about us not being able to defend regulary against RWs is good, because we have very few strong players" -> I've heard this thing 3 times. What RW ? Who will open RW ? That's what I don't understand. If you have an agreement with that country who will open RW ? And if there is an RW what's the problem ? You have were to fight.
"I also believe that none of our neighbours would be really interested in a region swap." -> And I answer the same. You think a country prefers to keep 2 or more regions with the same resource then swoping it for a region with a resource they don't have ?
You're right, I didn't properly respond to your statements. I try to do so now:
There are people out there who want to have a resistance hero medal and look for easy possibilities to start a RW to get one. Any region occupied by Austria would be such a possibility. Even if the government of the state we rented/swapped the region from/with told their people not to fight, there would still be some who would do just that, making any defense difficult for us, as nearly all our neighbours are way bigger and stronger. Relying on the military of the renter/swapping partner to help us can't be a long term strategy.
"You think a country prefers to keep 2 or more regions with the same resource then swoping it for a region with a resource they don't have ?"
I think that of all our neighbours only Slovenia (grain for fruit) and Germany (iron and fish far way, but they would need deer and we have successfully rented [100 Gold!] our only spare deer region) would do such a deal. And both have too much problems for the foreseeable future to think about region swaps with us. The other neighbours are most probably not interested or would just conquer the region without any contract.
And I still doubt a country would give away one of the three raw materials boosters for a small 5% bonus without some further compensation. Why should they help someone else more than they are being helped? 5% is too small, if your economy isn't really big in the first place.
"And you get that gold and do what ? If there are no people ?"
Hopefully the government will sign one or more MPP(s) to increase sales, thereby helping the economy even with few people.
Maybe I'm an idiot and I can't make my self clear. You say for example that eSlovakia will prefer to keep 2 regions with iron and no aluminum region then swoping one iron region for 5% bonuse for an aluminum region. Yes iron region will give us also 25% bonuse for iron company but that doesn't change things. Why a country should hold 2 or more regions with the same resource. They need only one to get the bonuses. And trust me 5% is really BIG for a small economy. And also by swoping regions you will need to fight. That meens you don't need MPP.
I understand your point, but our opinions differ. That's not a big deal. I salute your efforts!
And for the part, why a country should hold two regions of the same ressource they don't even benefit from, the answer is simple: They do this, because they are able to do it. Slovakia is holding Styria for months now without rental agreement and offered us Styria back for some of our gold. Is this the way we should go for it? Currently we are down to one regions and the regions, they are occupied with an rental agreement gives us a good gold boost. The occupied regions without a rental agreement are different but can you force Slovakia or other countries to hand em back? If so, please go for it, I would bow in front of you.
ty, JaFe
Jafe's comment O__O
You really think that with an income of 2g a day a 5% increase (calculations have shown this 5% is worth only around 4% net) would help more than 170g? lemme calculate for a sec: 2g*30=60g*0,04=2,4g
Wait, I think 170g is slightly more than 2,4g.
Yes, if we could manage to be the cheapest country on the market, people would come and buy here. but we're not, and we won't be. And keep in mind lower prices would also mean less income. We could too try to lower the value of the ATS to 1g=200 ATS and sell the cheapest grounds, but i think JaFe's way is right. I think we should keep selling regions.
All I saw was a lot of insult and lack of any real basis for them. But maybe I'm just 'some smart guy.' I wasn't active in eRep for the CP elections but it's easy to see just reading this and comments that Jafe wins alone based on curtosy and respect. 😛
If you care about eAustria then try to fix your attitude and work with the people in it instead of insult them all and make baseless claims. Right now you're just hurting it and causing some drama llamas.
Also tl;sadly read, Jafe. O____O
Jafe's comment O__O x2
Jafe intimidates his opposition with comments full of analytical genius 'o'