eUK, here's why our society is corrupt!
Sir Nick Griffin
Right, this isn't a UKPP centric article, hence there are no [UKPP] tags, so I'll try and keep it as plain as possible.
An incident has happened in the eUK chatroom involving DanMoir and myself. I posted a thread on the forum regarding this, but it was swiftly removed (as I predicted). They cannot remove articles, though, without reporting them, and this this article will likely be sent to every UK player. Below is exactly what I posted in the forums.
As you may all be aware, the ruling government has no power over the running of the Forum or #euk Chatroom, which means they are in the constant hands of the same people, all the time. These people can sometimes ban justly, but most of the time use their power unjustly. I suspect, after minutes of posting this, it will be deleted and I will receive some form of Forum ban, or suspension.
So, about 5 months ago, DanMoir kickbanned me from #euk chat for doing nothing, just hanging around and greeting new players into the chatroom. He wrote that the reason was 'racism', yet, when asked to find the logs for me, he refused. I remained banned for 4-5 months and only recently was unbanned after plenty of brown-nosing and apologising for something I hadn't done. Now, I have just been banned AGAIN by DanMoir. Here is what happened http://mibpaste.com/LxHLQt
After reading this, you may think that a kickban was rather steep, and unfair... you're correct. If you ever visit the euk chat, you're constantly bombarded by racial slurs such as n****r, vile swear words, constant spam and trolling. All of this makes the eUK look like total imbeciles and turns away potential new members of our eNation. The thing is, I have watched people like Sanic and Chew-Chew (isn't even in the eUK) get away with this all the time, often being kicked once or twice, but promptly returning to the chatroom to carry it on. Yet, whenever I or someone from the UKPP gets noticed by DanMoir we have to behave and not speak a word, otherwise we'll be thrashed and banned for months on end.... and then called a racist.
Well I'm sick of this. This has to be sorted. We must put an end to constant leadership of the forums and of the chatroom, or at least remove DanMoir. And then get some proper mods who can sort the room out and make it a comfortable place for new players to be. I will be campaigning on this and if nothing is done, then when you get a UKPP government we'll simply have our own national forum with a national chatroom that is governed fairly.
Thank You,
Sir Nick.
So, now that you've read it, what do you think? Do you think we should carry on letting the same idiots run our country into the ground and turn noobs away from our community, or should we campaign for a new set of admins who can actually do their JOB.
I think it's high time we the country changed for the better, and if we cannot get change, we'll soon have new euk chatroom and a new euk forum, without all the crap.
Best Regards,
Sir Nick.
Comments
Cry me a river.
It makes me think Ajay's propaganda ... in worse
what you say maybe true but i do not see having UKPP controlling everything as better. if anything, this would mean alfagrem is in control of everything and that would be much much worse.
It would not be UKPP controlled. We would divide control somehow amongst certain individuals. You'll find UKPP members are fair when it comes to moderation. The only reason we banned certain players from our party channel is because they were trolling and not allowing UKPP members to talk. On top of this, I'm banned from most gov channels... why?
>So, now that you've read it, what do you think?
You were banned for continuing after being told to stop. Seems legit.
And, from what I hear, IRC channels you admin never ban people, for legit reasons or otherwise.
Grow up nick, the ban was completly justified, you just create problems for yourself
Nick, you banned Lily on account for not restricting Sanic.
We are not permitted as a party to restrict Sanic from talking as that would be against freedom of speech which is in turn against ESO.
"In 1998, Griffin was convicted of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred, for which he received a suspended prison sentence." - wikipedia
Maybe you get banned for having "knighted" a racist? Not that I agree with it, but it's an answer.
"You'll find UKPP members are fair when it comes to moderation."
Deluded much.
Wall of text + 4 votes = not good enough to read. Sorry
It's funny, cause I see new people in IRC all the time, and none of them seem to have any problems. Strange world, huh?
i just got kb'd from #ukpp for joining and saying, and i quote, "sup".
the hypocracy of ukpp really does know no bounds.....
[10:40] "You'll find UKPP members are fair when it comes to moderation."
[10:40] looks like nick was wrong!
[10:40] what was that for/
[10:40] busy
[10:40] busyness gets in the way of principals, duly noted
[10:41] not my principals
[10:41] when it comes to comparisons between your way and my way.................I just meh
😁 thats cos we were having a private discussion
if you try again you will be welcome
#UKPP - Channel for UKPPers (name gives it away somewhat)
#eUK - Channel for ................?
I'm on the akick list because I always go there, apparently.
Also:
>private meeting
>public chat
Yeah, right. Sure.
You are correct, #eUK is outside of the control of government. Its a social room for likeminded UK citizens, and for people who want to find UK citizens. The same is true of #UKPP.
Anyone can (and in my case, have, and will probably constantly) be banned from either channel, often for no reason at all. Reform starts at home, so before you bicker about this, I'd hope you remember how you and Alfagrem do exactly the same in #UKPP.
I dont understand why others even come into the #UKPP chan.
All they do is join, lurk and say nothing, probably waiting for it to 'kick off' so they can copy and paste logs.
If you ain't gonna chat then why lurk in a channel that contains people you don't particularly enjoy the company of? Makes no sense to me, hence why I rarely stray into #eUK, never have been in tUP's chan and seldom pop into see how our ESO brothers are doing.
He banned me too for an innocent jibe about his wife's ethnicity!
So you're mad because you got kicked from a channel by people you say do it because they don't like you, yet kick everyone out of your channel because you say they have no business in it.
Makes sense.
Usually, I get a good conversation with ppl in #ukpp. That's until Sir_Nick .kb me for no apparent reason :/
#UKPP - For UKPP Members...
#eUK - For eUK citizens...
ehhh.....
The fact that it is not a government-run channel means that it is not really required to follow any guidelines on moderation...just as #UKPP is. I think you are overreacting, stop crying.
I like to chat with you WayneKerr ( =
It is a government sponsored channel. Yet not government controlled. #UKPP follows our own guidelines since it's a private chat for party members to socialise, we reserve the right to kick anyone who is spamming, as we have done.
The eUK chat is for everyone. And despite everything else, you HAVE to admit that banning me was plainly wrong.
You not banned are you Elle? Would break my heart to think our epic conversations would be missing from my eLife.
People are only kicked when they are contributing to a uncomfortable atmosphere. Guests such as ApronChef, Rodney Mackay and others of that caliber are always welcome. Others such as sanic are no longer required or permitted access.
Well said, Wayne
It is a government sponsored channel. Yet not government controlled. #UKPP follows our own guidelines since it's a private chat for party members to socialise, we reserve the right to kick anyone who is spamming, as we have done.
Since the government is elected, and new channels can pretty much be created at will, what stops you from convincing the actual government into making a new channel in new hands? I don't give a f. about your quarrels, I do think you have a point regarding it not being in the hands of the actual government. Have the government promote some diffrent channel, in which other minorities get .kb'd for merely being annoying...
From what I'm reading here and other places, I don't seem to be missing much not being on IRC...
THE WHOLE THING BETWEEN EVERY ONE IS PATHETIC GROW UP ALL OF YOU FOR GOD'S SAKE
It seems like everyone keeps confusing eUK channel and forum with private ukpp, eso, etc channels.
I entered eUK once and heard there nothing but how wrong my party is.
Now question: Is eUK an official anti-UKPP channel?
I lol'd.
FYI I was kicked on arrival yesterday while trying to help out, and I defy anyone to call me a troll.
As for #euk, you gotta ask yourself- if people there are so hostile to you, why do you want to talk to them? And if you do want to talk to them, why do you ban them when they enter your channel instead?
Logic'd.
"#UKPP - For UKPP Members..."
It's a public chan, ergo for anyone who wishes to join.
if its a private channel for UKPP members MAKE IT PRIVATE AND SET A PASSWORD OR MAKE IT SO PEOPLE HAVE TO BE GIVEN ACCESS. otherwise, stfu
And people wonder why new players dont stick around much. FFS ITS A GAME
If moderation were so bad you can just make a channel called #erepublikuk or #uk.er or #erepublik.uk and just wait till the thousands of peoples tired from Dan Moir's horrendous moderation join that new channel en masse.
Besides.
[12:10] * Now talking in #UKPP
[12:10] * Topic is 'Welcome to UKPP's public channel || Party: http://tinyurl.com/5sm7aqd || Forum: http://tinyurl.com/6fz5xy2 || Wiki: http://tinyurl.com/6bhasgn || MU: http://tinyurl.com/6c6sp7r || Party Website: http://z13.invisionfree.com/eUK/index.php?act=idx || Private Channel: #UKPP.Private || Royal Navy Channel: #UKPP.Navy '
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THE WHOLE THING BETWEEN EVERY ONE IS PATHETIC GROW UP ALL OF YOU FOR GOD'S SAKE
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Exactly... It is pathetic and rather sad that one person in the eUK chat bans people because he doesn't personally like them. It's nothing to do with the #ukpp channel (P.S, It's a kickable offence to say '#ukpp' in #euk. Everyone who was banned from the ukpp channel was banned for a reason; they only need to ask me why they were banned. And it's their fault that they remain banned simply because they try and abuse me after they've been banned and then try and apologise a couple of days afterwards.
Y I BANNED?!?
For fuck sake, you bring all this on yourself, with your stupidfuck username, that's why it all started all that time ago. Your fault.
@Talon "As for #euk, you gotta ask yourself- if people there are so hostile to you, why do you want to talk to them?"
Exactly! That's why I never bothered to get on eUK channel again! You technically got me/most UKPP members not welcomed on the official channel of my own country! Just to repeat myself, not a party channel, but a country channel.
Why is this happening? Because eUK is controlled by people who are hostile to every UKPP member by default!
What amuses me, is those hypocritical shouts "Why would not we be a united nation?" usually appearing before elections. If our government fails to make every eUK citizen welcome on its official channel, then, i suspect, it also fails to unite our nation.
And let that be a lesson to you all.
[12:10] * Now talking in #UKPP
[12:10] * Topic is 'Welcome to UKPP's public channel || Party: http://tinyurl.com/5sm7aqd || Forum: http://tinyurl.com/6fz5xy2 || Wiki: http://tinyurl.com/6bhasgn || MU: http://tinyurl.com/6c6sp7r || Party Website: http://z13.invisionfree.com/eUK/index.php?act=idx || Private Channel: #UKPP.Private || Royal Navy Channel: #UKPP.Navy '
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[12:10] * Topic is 'Welcome to UKPP's public channel || Party: http://tinyurl.com/5sm7aqd || Forum: http://tinyurl.com/6fz5xy2 || Wiki: http://tinyurl.com/6bhasgn || MU: http://tinyurl.com/6c6sp7r || Party Website: http://z13.invisionfree.com/eUK/index.php?act=idx || Private Channel: #UKPP.Private || Royal Navy Channel: #UKPP.Navy '
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I need to repeat this, so until you un-ban me, Lily and all the others we will not even consider un-banning you.
The only reason you have the name that you do is to be inflammatory. If you are intelligent enough to write this article, one would imagine that you are intelligent enough to realise why your name causes issues.
Instead of spending 4-5months brown nosing to get access back, go submit a ticket for a name change or press the New Citizen button and start over.
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What you should of ended your 'zoom' at was "UKPP public"
you claim im banned because of your public decussions and if I come back i'll get in. so why have i been banned for about a month?
also why is ESO's PP Lily Summers banned? I don't see alfa banned from #eso
Sambo, Lily got banned by mistake. I was going to unban her but she sent nothing but abuse to me and so did Sanic. As for you, you seem to insult the UKPP at every opportunityon #euk, and then wonder why you don't get in.
Perhaps the mods should be elected in a similar way to MP's...
>I was going to unban her but she sent nothing but abuse to me
Pure lies as expected from Nick.
Will nobody think of the children!?