[SecDef] Freedom of Speech in the USAF
Gnilraps
Politics and War
Day 1,757 of the New World
11 September, 2012
Today I had to Dishonorably Discharge a member of the USAF Air Force. He is a likable dude - heck I practically invited him to join Easy Company in his Discharge notice - so it wasn't a lot of fun.
The reason for his Discharge had to do with making political statements, particularly in the Military Unit Shout Feed and IRC Channel.
Membership in a branch of the USAF is a privilege. You are generally outfitted better than any soldiers in the eWorld.
But you also serve under a different Commander in Chief every 30 days.
So it is inevitable that you will, sooner or later, have to serve under a Commander in Chief which you dislike, disagree with, and/or want to see impeached.
When a soldier in a branch of the USAF finds himself in that circumstances, he is 100% free to vote for impeachment if he is in congress. He is 100% free to shout his negative opinions about the current PoTUS in his friends and/or Party shout feed. He is 100% free to criticize policies in the Forum and in any IRC channel other than those sponsored by his Government MU.
But what a soldier in the USAF cannot do is use his Branch shout feed and/or IRC channel to promote dissent against the current Military strategy as set forth by the Commander in Chief, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the National Security Council.
Today, a soldier did this... and not for the first time. The soldier who was Discharged today had been recently Discharged for doing the same thing, and had been reinstated by his CO (with my permission) because he had supposedly learned his lesson.
If he had learned his lesson he'd still be in the Air Force.
Today bummed me out. It bums me out to write this article. But it behooves all members of the USAF to understand this clearly (and Branch CO's would be wise to reiterate this to your membership at this time):
The Branch MU Shout Feed
and the Branch IRC Channel,
and the Branch Forum Boards
are NOT to be used for political announcements,
offers to purchase votes for candidature,
political dissent,
nor opinions concerning military strategy.
All of these fine conversational traditions must take place in any of the multiplicity of avenues for communication offered in the game and metagame. But they are not to appear in any of our Government sponsored Channels.
Better yet, there are many private Military Units you can join which have absolutely no moratorium on speech whatsoever. This makes eUSA a rich and diverse nation.
But if you belong to a USAF Branch, STFU and Fight.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled clicking
Comments
USAF sucks .. Join the real steel! Join Marines!
In the Marines, You can complain about USAF leadership as much as you wish ! 😉
condensed version: STFU and FIGHT
silent PTO taking place🙁
condensed version: STFU and FIGHT
So here I can comment that our current absence of Militarty Strategy and feeling of honour and Friendship with other nations makes me want to kill someone?
LOL
well come on gnilraps , least you can do is share the comment i a being discharged for, here it is
So now we have new potus and he wants to give back our regions like the last potus,Great minds think alike? or more monopoly, dont pass go dont collect weapons
This warranted an article? Who cares
Slyk Willy
If the Polish president say that we have to give all our colonies back, we have to listen!
I support my Secretary of Defense, 100%
lol this want about the regions , it was about the fact that IS is caring over CA policys, i just was trying to point out that there seems to be a monopoly in the executive branch
Yeah..... This is the biggest joke of an article, and people telling others what they can and cant say in a game is a disgrace.
I think this article is fair and a must read for all USAF members
Truth? Both sides are in the wrong.
Slyk, you've got a hundred channels to run your mouth in. Pick another.
Gnilraps, this article is better suited to the forums you so despise and as a conversation for recruiters to have with incoming recruits. You know, proactive, not reactive. As usual, your self-serving self races to media to start petty drama over one asshat's asshattery.
By the way, what do USAF get?
10Q7 per day? free food; do they get paid G to train?
I'd like to know in order to understand where other stringent programs sit.
USAF receive 8000 gold / month
LOL
"In the Marines, You can complain about USAF leadership as much as you wish !"
you know i been offerd to join many non govt funded MU's . should i just leave the airforce MU, should i bow down to the man, or should i stand up for my right to speak and fight them for every inch. every single one of you pay for the govt funding for these govt MU's. should you say nothing, suck it up and say well gezz thats just the way it is. OR?
OR what? be butthurt all the time because we dont agree with the current POTUS? There are tons of places where you can voice your opinion, but not in the places gnilraps has outlined, get over it.
get over it, sure when our tax dollars are not used to fund MU's then i can get over it. but as long as they try to silence freedom of speech i will be butthurt.
If any of you muppets spent time in a RL mil unit, you'll find that soldiers will always bitch about leadership to their mates.
Try to DD a soldier complaining in a battle zone and I can guarantee you will end up as part of the friendly fire statistics.
But if you belong to a USAF Branch, STFU and Fight.
But if you belong to a USAF Branch, STFU and Fight.
STFU and Fight.
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I dont understand????
STFU
Well you are a soldier, not a politician.
Basically, you are getting supplies to shut up and fight.
Don't like it?
Leave the army and be a politician.
I got discharged for my political actions.
I was tanking against some Turkish ragheads, whom I din't saw as an allies.
But it really wasn't on me to judge it, so my discharge was legit as well.
the point is we have the right to express our political beliefs and they cant take that away unless you let them. Im not gonna let them, I will fight for your right to speak out
lol dude NO ONE is taking away our right express our political beliefs. Our very discussion literally disproves your point. voicing dissent is patriotism, spamming your disagreement all over the place isnt.
disgusting
legit...
Voted
bucephalus, i posted once in friends feed once in MU feed and once in airforce channel,,, just once, within 20 minutes my discharge letter came. So lets not call it spam
For something you'd already been warned once explicitly not to do? Once is enough.
Also, to the JCSfags perioding all over the comments section, 8k gold spread out across numerous branches, with current gold rates being primarily worthless, is still less gold than YOU got paid to fight with. So quit whining. You made YOUR choice willingly, knowing the repercussions involved. Own it and quit shitting on those who still work just as hard as any one of your so-called "patriotic" units.
Looks like i am not the only one who make political statements in the MU feed, look what i found in the RS feed
Report
Cerb wrote 3 days ago
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http://s4.zetaboards.com/American_Mil_Party/topic/9701694/1/
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Slyk Willy, there are plenty of MU's out there where you could voice these opinions, and no one would mind. But by joining USAF, and taking their supplies, you accept their rules. If you don't want to accept their rules, Then stop taking their supplies, and go elsewhere.
It's really that simple.
I will voice them in every govt MU now, i will be visiting all the govt MU's for the next few weeks to exercise my right to post political information in their MU feeds. If you , potus or anyone else has a problem with that, well you could guess what my response might be.
Slyk Willy, the voice of the unemployed. Keep fighting "the man" Willy. Some day I hope to see you on the other side of a courtroom. You'll be the dumbass that I'm prosecuting as a DA.
Nobody from You aren't even close to Harlot.
So, You aren't good enough to quote him.
I think the president and SecDef are pissed because no one is listening to them when it comes to battling against the USA.....thats why we are keeping Mexico. I heard Isreal Stevens and his administration are getting monetary compensation for giving the Spaniards and Indonesians our land at our expense...literally.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled clicking (lol)
Bah! Eepin gleepin glopin globen!
😁^ what he said 😁^
Slyk Willy if you want supplies from The Man, then you have to follow his rules. Setting aside everything else, that's pretty basic stuff. In the USAF though, you have to bow down but you also have to take your turn holding a picture of Bradley Reala while Liquid Oxygen beats himself with a cane muttering, "I hate them. I hate them. I hate them....oooooh oh ooooooh I hate them sooooo much."
Silly willy! You so silly
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBj3u5dPgM
Frankly, you're all idiots. I'll start with the bottom, work my way up.
@Fitisin: There was a time when I was in the eUS Mil that we had the exact same rules. Only difference? It applied to every channel and chat; leadership found out, you were getting canned. I hope that's not a rule anymore, I'd love a more open eUS Mil; that was the only thing I didn't like back then, it was stifling.
@HisAirness: Well said. This shouldn't have been made an article.
@Slyk: They'll probably report you for spam, and there's enough MUs that you'd get permban from points. Pick your battles, this one's not worth it.
@rainy: My thoughts exactly.
@seeinvoices: Oddly enough, I think this article is an exemplary demonstration of "leadership."
@Samuel: I lol'd at every one of your comments. Creative. 🙂
@Gnilraps: You are a consummate politician. Now, stop politicking and be a leader. This should never have become an article. Want to get the word out? Chain of command, bro. Post it on the private boards for every MU. There are enough ways to get this done without airing out the dirty laundry.
loldrama
@deificus they cant ban me for spam, the game mechanics are set to prevent spam
You're confusing spam with double posting; the latter is prevented by game mechanics, the former is not.
No, a one-off report isn't going to get you banned (or even a point). If a lot of members of the MU report you, however... and if this occurs in several MUs a day... and if every time it comes up, it's the same guy? The moderators are going to start giving you FPs. It takes time for FPs to expire, and you can be permabanned if you get too many (assuming you aren't a paying customer).
I'm just saying, there are battles to pick and then there are battles you avoid. Game mechanics won't save you on that one. Since you've found a new home, I'd just stick to that and try to build that up; save your strength from a laborious, and quite possibly fruitless task and put that energy into camaraderie you can enjoy.